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thegreatdivide

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Re: Truth Telling and Healing Inquiry
Reply #60 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 11:59am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 26^th, 2024 at 11:00pm:

Well - force 'em into a job they don't want and see how they go.

No; eliminate welfare, and offer people jobs commensurate with their abilities.

See how blind your 'personal responsibility' ideology makes you?

At least Crisafulli, with his "adult crime, adult time" youth crime-fighting meme, added:

"we will retrain the kids and give them a chance to become good citizens".

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Why would they want to work ......

People want to work, unless they are demoralized by chronic welfare dpendency and poverty.

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when they can just claim Maryborough or Roma freehold without paying a cent and then charge the Invaders rent on their own homes and businesses and farms etc? I dread to think what currency their rent payments would be made in .... what a totally insane idea.

See how your blind 'personal responsibility' meme turns entrenched poverty into a nonsense narrative about living off rent.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84664 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Truth Telling and Healing Inquiry Reply #61 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:01pm I haven't seen you post a single workable solution yet - just empty rhetoric straight out of the books - it's not me that's blinded by ideology and a host of empty words. I see things clearly.
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Re: Truth Telling and Healing Inquiry
Reply #62 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

I haven't seen you post a single workable solution yet - just empty rhetoric straight out of the books - it's not me that's blinded by ideology and a host of empty words.

I see things clearly.

You accuse people of not wanting to work, proving your ability to "see things clearly" is fatally compromised.

Note: local government can create a list of jobs which the local community wants done, to ensure full employment at the local level.

The real problem is the small government, balanced budget mythology crippling our economy.

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Reply #63 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:59pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

I haven't seen you post a single workable solution yet - just empty rhetoric straight out of the books - it's not me that's blinded by ideology and a host of empty words.

I see things clearly.

You accuse people of not wanting to work, proving your ability to "see things clearly" is fatally compromised.

Note: local government can create a list of jobs which the local community wants done, to ensure full employment at the local level.

The real problem is the small government, balanced budget mythology crippling our economy.

The local community may want a list of jobs done ... but they don't want to do them.

Most budgets applicable to Aboriginal communities come from federal funding so not small govt .....

and in most cases there are no budget constraints.... that's the problem.

$36 billion plus is not small govt nor a small budget.

You tell us where all the money goes and you might get a hearing ....

in the meantime you're all waffle, waffle, waffle.

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Re: Truth Telling and Healing Inquiry
Reply #64 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 1:32pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:01pm:

I haven't seen you post a single workable solution yet - just empty rhetoric straight out of the books - it's not me that's blinded by ideology and a host of empty words.

I see things clearly.

You accuse people of not wanting to work, proving your ability to "see things clearly" is fatally compromised.

Note: local government can create a list of jobs which the local community wants done, to ensure full employment at the local level.

The real problem is the small government, balanced budget mythology crippling our economy.

The local community may want a list of jobs done ... but they don't want to do them.

Just asserting people don't want to work is not sustainable as a policy.

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Most budgets applicable to Aboriginal communities come from federal funding so not small govt

The poverty industry exists BECAUSE of small government ideology (but actually ends up wasting money in "correction" and (ill)-health industries.

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and in most cases there are no budget constraints.... that's the problem.

$36 billion plus is not small govt nor a small budget.

1. It's <2% of Oz gdp.

2. For a currency-issuing government, the real "budget" constraint is available resources, not money and budgets as is the case with you and me (who are currency users)

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You tell us where all the money goes and you might get a hearing ....

Some of it is wasted on the poverty industry, some on tax breaks for multi nationals, fossil fuel companies, and wealthy individuals...

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in the meantime you're all waffle, waffle, waffle.

No - I just spelled it out, above, and in previous posts.... reasoned argument, not waffle.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 84664 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Truth Telling and Healing Inquiry Reply #65 - Oct 27^th, 2024 at 1:45pm Well - to tell you the truth ...........................................................................
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