Poll added.

I just looked it up… it is ridiculous! And not just Sydney.
Amazing how Tullamarine not included in curfew.

Adelaide, Essendon, Gold Coast and Sydney airports have curfews between 11pm and 6am. While most aircraft operations are prohibited during this period, emergency aircraft, some small jets, propeller-driven aircraft and freight movements are allowed.

tallowood wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 9:30am:


The official line is that it is to lessen the impact of aircraft noise on residents. It's utterly ridiculous. The busiest airport in Australia is not being utilised to its fullest extent because of a bunch of NIMBY's who moved INTO the area near the airport complained about the noise of the aircraft taking off and landing. Even after the government spent millions on installing sound-proofing materials in affected homes, they still complained loud enough that politicians capitulated to their demands and kept the curfew.

One of the conditions of the curfew is that any aircraft who are permitted to take off or land during the curfew hours must do so over Botany Bay. I think perhaps the only exceptions are the NSW Ambulance Air Ambulance and other aeromedical flights and emergency landings. But that doesn't guarantee you can do it (over Botany Bay), because it depends on the wind because you can only take off and land INTO the wind - you can't take off or land with the wind behind you as it is too dangerous.

It's time for the curfew to be abolished, it really is.

SYDNEY AIRPORT: AIRCRAFT NOISE PROTEST

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 10:49am:


You should come over to my place and see what you think about aircraft noise.

Since the middle of August we've had probably close to 200 planes a day (except Sundays and the odd other day here and there) roaring over our roof between 7:30am and 5:30pm because of this:

Runway Works - Perth Airport

In the attached image, the main runway (03/21) where the maintenance is being done is marked in red and the shorter cross runway (06/24) is marked in green. North is at the top and I live in the area marked with the yellow circle which is about 4km from the southwest end of the cross runway.

It isn't so bad when the planes are landing if we have easterly winds but they're as noisy as h3ll when they take off with west/southwesterly winds (which we've had most of the time during the past few weeks).

Now, I'm sure most people would understand that these works have to be done but what a lot of people (especially the elderly) in my area are annoyed about is that the airport didn't even have the common courtesy to tell people what they were planning - like an ad or ads in the local paper or an ad in our regular Belmont Bulletin magazine.

As far as I know, the only 'advertising' the airport did was the above link (which you have to click through 3 or 4 links to find if you go to their main website) and on Facebook in the middle of August.

I'm sure all the oldies in our area are just glued to Facebook every day and follow Perth Airport. 

Most oldies wouldn't even have Internet.

The good news is - when Perth Airport finally get around to building the new runway that they've been banging on about for a decade or two, the cross runway is going to be decommissioned. 

Latest estimate for the new runway completion - 2028. And I'm betting it won't be finished by the end of the decade seeing as they haven't even started it yet (it will be off the right hand side of the attached picture and parallel to the existing main runway).

New Runway - Perth Airport

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:20am:


We were here before they 'upgraded' the shorter cross runway about 15 years ago and started using it more often.

Up until then (well, up until 3 or 4 years ago, actually) they hardly used it at all.

And even though we can hear the planes on the main north-south runway they are a lot, lot quieter from where we are (you can probably see that from the image in my previous post).

Now, if you really want to see people getting riled up about aircraft noise, you should see Brisbane after they opened their new runway in 2020.

'Our lives have been completely destroyed': How Brisbane's new runway has made life hell for many.

Glad I don't live anywhere near there.

tallowood wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:34am:


With that thinking, every single airport should be closed for good.