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Covid inquiry results today. (Read 1742 times)
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Reply #15 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:01am
 
Hi Carl,
it would be nice if you could cover some of the points I made -  again -



People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of highly qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.

People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves
on a park bench in the sun
yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors.

We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest
for 5.5 million people.
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Reply #16 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:39am
 
Good morning Bobby.

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People were forced to accept medical experiments on themselves.


Really? What "medical experiments" were those?

I don't seem to recall any "medical experiments" being conducted on myself or anyone else here in WA. What on earth was going on in Victoria?  Roll Eyes

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People in Victoria were given massive life changing fines for sitting by themselves
on a park bench in the sun
yet there was no evidence of Covid being transferred outdoors.

We had some of the longest lockdowns in the world - over 260 days of house arrest
for 5.5 million people.


This was unfortunate.

However, if people had done the right thing from the beginning and obeyed the Covid protection mandates like lockdowns and mask wearing instead of protesting about their 'freedumbs' and almost rioting in the streets then I'm sure the lockdowns wouldn't have gone on anywhere near as long as they did.

WA handled the pandemic very successfully for over 2 years with minimal lockdowns until Mark McGowan was forced into opening our borders to let Covid rip like the rest of Australia had already done.

Of course, if our governments and health departments, etc. had done their jobs properly and not allowed Covid to get into Australia and spread in the first place none of this would have been necessary.
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Reply #17 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:44am
 
Carl - don't be disingenuous -

Vaccines normally have a 10 year period to gain approval but in
many cases they were only tested for 6 weeks.
A new technology involving mRNA was used in many vaccines
which was not fully understood yet it went ahead anyway.
Govt bodies like ATAGI went along for the ride with dozens
of highly qualified medical people including many university professors
all agreed that it was worth the risk.
There was a 100% agreement amongst them.
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Reply #18 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:13pm
 
it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach.

looks like aquascoot was right all along  Smiley Smiley
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Reply #19 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:43pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:13pm:
it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach.

looks like aquascoot was right all along  Smiley Smiley


That would be the "let the elderly and vulnerable die so the young can flourish'' approach, would it?

Oh, wait... that's exactly the same approach that Australia and most of the rest of the world has been using for the past 2 or 3 years.

And... aquascoot is NEVER right (in my humble opinion).  Smiley
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Reply #20 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:51pm
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:13pm:
it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach.

looks like aquascoot was right all along  Smiley Smiley


That would be the "let the elderly and vulnerable die so the young can flourish'' approach, would it?

Oh, wait... that's exactly the same approach that Australia and most of the rest of the world has been using for the past 2 or 3 years.

And... aquascoot is NEVER right (in my humble opinion).  Smiley



yes, it seems that the world ended up adopting the swedish approach.

the elderly are a drain on social security, they tie up housing. they tie up health services  and businesses like travel and tourism are vital for the economy

so it was the logical step
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Reply #21 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:44pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:13pm:
it looks like the next virus will be met with the "swedish" approach.

looks like aquascoot was right all along  Smiley Smiley



Of course he was right.

I think the vaccines did not much to help and just introduced more problems.

Human beings have an arrogance that we think we can fix anything with a drug.
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Reply #22 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 4:42am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
yes, it seems that the world ended up adopting the swedish approach.

the elderly are a drain on social security, they tie up housing. they tie up health services  and businesses like travel and tourism are vital for the economy

so it was the logical step


Only for people like you.

I'll let the esteemed Dr. David Berger and Craig Wallace (https://x.com/CraigWtweets) comment further:

https://x.com/YouAreLobbyLud/status/1851593067654197417

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The last time I looked you didn't get a lighter sentence for murder because your victim was old or disabled.

I think it's rather important that there is societal consensus before we sacrifice certain people, because "they're not worth as much". Not just some guy saying it's fine.


https://x.com/CraigWtweets/status/1851442213290701278

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I told ABC Radio Canberra today that the comments by Prof Peter Collignon who works at @ACTHealth
about the 'value' of older & disabled lives through COVID19 were disgraceful and highlighted the way our lives were devalued at the height of the COVID19 pandemic


Yes, and Peter Collignon is another well known Covid minimiser. Just like Nick Coatsworth and several others.
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Reply #23 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 4:29pm
 
hi carl

governments need to balance interests

having a dead tourism industry, a dead hotel industry, no foreign studients to inject cash would cause a lot of pain

many old people fully accept that death is approaching and welcome it

you and dr berger and a handful of others speak only for yourselves

you have formed a small narcissistic cult

the government arent listening because your cult has so few members , it cannot influence elections

so you shouldnt expect any favours from government

as i say, you must learn personal responsibility

you are stubborn and dont want to, but the government has weaned you off the government titty and you are not going to get any more breast milk

you need a cow and you will have to milk it yourself
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Reply #24 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:52pm
 
So... let's see if I've got this right.

Australia's sham of a Covid Inquiry concludes that lockdowns were 'over the top' while conveniently ignoring the fact that tens of thousands of lives (some estimates say 60,000 lives) were saved by lockdowns and other Covid protections that were put in place before the vaccines were available.

It also says Australians were unlikely to accept lockdowns and other protection measures like mandatory masks and quarantine, etc. for a future pandemic and probably would not comply even if the government tried to (or even wanted to) implement them.

So... if that's the case then what is the point of having governments (Federal and State) here in Australia at all?

Here's what a few people have to say about all of this (there's many more replies that say pretty much the same thing but I couldn't fit them all in).

"brain dead country" indeed.
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Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:09pm
 
hi carl

thank god for democracy

it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  Grin Grin
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Reply #26 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:14pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:09pm:
hi carl

thank god for democracy

it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  Grin Grin


Oh, look.

It's OzPolitic's spokesperson for the "brain dead 99%" again.

Smiley
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Reply #27 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:23pm
 
Carl D wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:09pm:
hi carl

thank god for democracy

it means the 99 % who think like me can tell the 1 % who think like you to bugger off  Grin Grin


Oh, look.

It's OzPolitic's spokesperson for the "brain dead 99%" again.

Smiley

  sure carl

you keep telling yourself that you and a handful of other  cult members know more then the chief health officers Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #28 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 7:33am
 
So, when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes a full blown human to human transmission pandemic with a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is the government going to sit on it's hands and do nothing because "that's what the people want" or (more likely) "we're too afraid to try and introduce protections like lockdowns and mask wearing, etc." because "the people will not comply" (and it will upset the economy - but they won't say that part 'out loud', of course)?

Do people need to be dropping like flies in the streets before the government even begins to think about trying to do their job (which is supposed to be "protect the population")?

I wonder what would have happened during The Blitz in the Second World War if the majority of the UK population had said "No, we're not going to wear gas masks or go to bomb shelters or turn our lights out at night or black out our windows because it infringes on our freedoms"?

It's a good thing we didn't have the stupid, selfish populations and weak governments that we have today back then because I'm sure the outcome of WW2 would have been very different.
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Reply #29 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 7:42am
 
Carl D wrote on Nov 1st, 2024 at 7:33am:
So, when H5N1 "bird flu" becomes a full blown human to human transmission pandemic with a 50% CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is the government going to sit on it's hands and do nothing because "that's what the people want" or (more likely) "we're too afraid to try and introduce protections like lockdowns and mask wearing, etc." because "the people will not comply" (and it will upset the economy - but they won't say that part 'out loud', of course)?

Do people need to be dropping like flies in the streets before the government even begins to think about trying to do their job (which is supposed to be "protect the population")?

I wonder what would have happened during The Blitz in the Second World War if the majority of the UK population had said "No, we're not going to wear gas masks or go to bomb shelters or turn our lights out at night or black out our windows because it infringes on our freedoms"?

It's a good thing we didn't have the stupid, selfish populations and weak governments that we have today back then because I'm sure the outcome of WW2 would have been very different.



No hope of that -

Dirty Dan closed down Victoria over a couple of Covid cases.

He put 5.5 million people under house arrest.

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