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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40700 Gender:	Americas decline Oct 29^th, 2024 at 10:47pm Americas been in decline for over 40 years. In world happiness, it is at 23rd. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/young-adults-are-unhappy-than-ever-but-dont-just... they have low faith in their democratic system, thanks to trump. inequality is terrible
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Reply #1 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 10:50pm

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.......... America’s list of complaints seems endless: Real wages are falling. Productivity growth is down. Companies aren’t competitive in global markets. White-collar jobs are no longer secure. The nation’s infrastructure is collapsing. The federal deficit is soaring. The health system is deteriorating. The cities are unsafe. The schools are failing. The gap between rich and poor is widening. .........

https://hbr.org/1992/07/is-america-in-decline

the homicide rate is worlds worst by a long way

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Reply #2 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 11:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

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.......... America’s list of complaints seems endless: Real wages are falling. Productivity growth is down. Companies aren’t competitive in global markets. White-collar jobs are no longer secure. The nation’s infrastructure is collapsing. The federal deficit is soaring. The health system is deteriorating. The cities are unsafe. The schools are failing. The gap between rich and poor is widening. .........

https://hbr.org/1992/07/is-america-in-decline

the homicide rate is worlds worst by a long way

You're quoting a 32 year old article.

The US homicide/manslaughter rate fell by 11.6% this year alone. Crime is at historic lows across the board.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-st...

Violent crime is down over 20% since the last administration. Since 1992 - forget about it.

This is what happens when wages rise, cities gentrify, and you do all sorts of small things - like remove lead from petrol, increase urban surveillance and develop new DNA technologies to solve crime.

None of this, it needs to be said, is attributed to "tough on crime" sentencing. It's a multi-pronged approach - some the economy, some community surveillance, some technological developments in police enforcement, and much of it by accident.

The US, like the rest of the developed world, has experienced an unprecedented crime drop, and all since 1992.

Feel it.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44659 Gender:	Re: Americas decline Reply #3 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43am How long before America becomes another Latin American favella? 20 years, tops. They are importing the personnel at an astonishing rate.
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Reply #4 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:05am

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43am:

How long before America becomes another Latin American favella?

20 years, tops. They are importing the personnel at an astonishing rate.

According to your DL, Venezuelan crime has dropped to levels we've never seen before. He's even floated the idea of moving there.

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"If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we'll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country," Trump said to Musk. "OK, so we'll go. You and I will go, and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-suggests-hell-flee-to-venezuela-if-h...

He's not to fond of America, as you can see. Venezuelan crime down 50% - all because they succeeded in bussing their dangerous inmates through seven separate countries and the Darien rainforest, straight to the US border and the open arms of Kar-mala.

You, dear boy, have a choice. You believe all that, or you believe the FBI.

So, what's it to be?

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Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:10am

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43am:

How long before America becomes another Latin American favella?

20 years, tops. They are importing the personnel at an astonishing rate.

You failed hard. You need to read the post above yours (#2).

Crime rates are dropping, and it's largely because inner city kids don't have to inhale so much lead.

BTW, lead is being phased out everywhere. Old homes painted with lead white (a kind of paint) are progressively being replaced with plasterboard (plaster inside cardboard) and painted with cheap titanium paint.

The main use of lead nowadays, is in car batteries. More expensive cars use lithium batteries.

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Aurora Complexus Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 343 New South Whales Gender:	Re: Americas decline Reply #6 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:20am Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:05am: You, dear boy, have a choice. You believe all that, or you believe the FBI. You didn't link to the FBI. You should do that, immediately.
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Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 2:07am

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:20am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:05am:

You, dear boy, have a choice. You believe all that, or you believe the FBI.

You didn't link to the FBI.

You should do that, immediately.

You should read a few posts back, but do you know?

The old boy doesn't care what the FBI say. They're a CORRUPT DEEP STATE CABAL.

They post fake crime statistics. Crime is secretly through the roof, at levels we've never seen before. Unreported crime, migrant crime and that strange phenomenon known as illegal crime.

This requires tough new laws to deport migrants for commiting crimes, vet migrants with criminal records and ban non-citizens from voting. These are all illegal anyway, but we need to make a point: we don't want them here.

They're stealing our jobs, murdering our kids, even eating our pets, but the FBI refuse to say that, so we don't want them here either.

Right now, America is experiencing the quietest criminal epidemic we've ever seen, but that's okay.

When the old boy's Dear Leader gets in, we'll see America made safe again, back to the good old days when the Proud Boys marched the streets with AR 15s, protected Confederate statues from Antifa and there were good and bad on both sides.

We will make America great again, no?

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Reply #8 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 2:30am

Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 2:07am:

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:20am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:05am:

You, dear boy, have a choice. You believe all that, or you believe the FBI.

You didn't link to the FBI.

You should do that, immediately.

You should read a few posts back, but do you know?

The old boy doesn't care what the FBI say. They're a CORRUPT DEEP STATE CABAL.

They post fake crime statistics. Crime is secretly through the roof, at levels we've never seen before. Unreported crime, migrant crime and that strange phenomenon known as illegal crime.

This requires tough new laws to deport migrants for commiting crimes, vet migrants with criminal records and ban non-citizens from voting. These are all illegal anyway, but we need to make a point: we don't want them here.

They're stealing our jobs, murdering our kids, even eating our pets, but the FBI refuse to say that, so we don't want them here either.

Right now, America is experiencing the quietest criminal epidemic we've ever seen, but that's okay.

When the old boy's Dear Leader gets in, we'll see America made safe again, back to the good old days when the Proud Boys marched the streets with AR 15s, protected Confederate statues from Antifa and there were good and bad on both sides.

We will make America great again, no?

Well I'm new here. Only been around since about 1982.

But I'm familiar with "lie and run."

I'm not too proud to say I never did it myself. It looks good to me, I'll just post "Submit" and let the others sort it out. Sometimes a lie prospers, isn't that so?

We can help make America great again. KAMALOT!

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Reply #9 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 4:45am

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:10am:

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43am:

How long before America becomes another Latin American favella?

20 years, tops. They are importing the personnel at an astonishing rate.

You failed hard. You need to read the post above yours (#2).

Crime rates are dropping, and it's largely because inner city kids don't have to inhale so much lead.

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And the Great Wall of China was built to keep the rabbits out.

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Reply #10 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 11:49am

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 4:45am:

Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 1:10am:

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:43am:

How long before America becomes another Latin American favella?

20 years, tops. They are importing the personnel at an astonishing rate.

You failed hard. You need to read the post above yours (#2).

Crime rates are dropping, and it's largely because inner city kids don't have to inhale so much lead.

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And the Great Wall of China was built to keep the rabbits out.

As you can see, Aurora, the old boy's going for option 1: believe DL.

But do you know?

He doesn't.believe a word. The old boy's take is purely performative. He says exactly what he's told.

You?

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Reply #11 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:02pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

Americas been in decline for over 40 years.

In world happiness, it is at 23rd.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/young-adults-are-unhappy-than-ever-but-dont-just...

they have low faith in their democratic system, thanks to trump.
inequality is terrible

Because Trump did not seize power in 2021? Was that a failure of democracy?

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5807	Re: Americas decline Reply #12 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:36pm It can be that US using V.I.Ulianov's strategy. "We are taking one step backward, to take two steps forward later".
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Reply #13 - Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:42pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

It can be that US using V.I.Ulianov's strategy.
"We are taking one step backward, to take two steps forward later".

The existence of Genocide Joe Biden represents 1000 x backward steps and no signs of any forward plan.

Genocide Joe Biden has created more debt than GDP growth during his tenure. Real GDP is not growing when debt is growing faster.

Genocide Joe Biden's infrastructure plan is a failure. He can't assemble anything other than grifters to seize the money and disregard the infrastructure.

The Genocide Joe Biden tenure has been a moving feast for grifters and the fat cow Kamala.

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Reply #14 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 8:32am

I am not sure about decline, rather a transition. Over the last 30 to 40 years, USA have transitioned from an industrial superpower to a financial / economic superpower.

Right now, the world is divided roughly on lines of 3 super powers. Russian is the resource superpower. China is the manufacturing superpower. And USA is the financial and economic superpower. USA is still by far the strongest, simply because money can buy both resource and products. And both Russia and China are depending on US money.

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