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Reply #240 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:
It's not wacist to tell a Pakistani to go back to Pakistan any more than saying such a thing to a Dane.


Now tell me, Soren, does the attitude used to express the sentiment affect how it is greeted by a person?  If I say to you, "Go back to Denmark!" is it as racist as saying in a nasty voice, "Piss off back to Denmark, you stupid Dane!"  Why do you deliberately overlook tone and attitude of the utterer?  Is it because you express yourself in a dull, monotonous tone all the time?  Really?  I doubt it myself.  Go on, why don't you piss off to Denmark, you Racist prick?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



"Piss of back to Pakistan" is on the same level as this:

I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples.
We are reminded of the urgency of Treaty with First Nations, justice & reparations for British colonies & becoming a republic.
https://x.com/MehreenFaruqi/status/1568054570169024514


Actually, a bit restrained and mild, considering that Faruqi swore allegiance to be "faithful and bear true allegiance" to the head of the 'racist empire' and derives her salary, parliamentary position, privileges and wealth ENTIRELY from a country under her and her successors' "leadership" that has been 'built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'

(Needless to say, for a parliamentarian, she is completely clueless about the role of the sovereign who is not the leader either of a non-existent Empire or of Australia)

I think a "**** off back to Pakistan, you hypocrite" would have been better suited. Had Faruqi been Australian, a "**** off out of parliament, you hypocrite" would have had to do.  You can substitute any country for Pakistan, wherever such a hypocrite in parliament may come from.


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Reply #241 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:01pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Pauline Hanson proved a Racist
Reply #242 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 9:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Back to moron, your comfort zone.


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Re: Pauline Hanson proved a Racist
Reply #244 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 9:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 9:46pm:

You asked me, I answered you, you went back to moron.

It is your comfort zone, being a moronic, inarticulate yawning clown.

"Oh, you don't know me, nobody can possibly know me".
We know you, cockwomble. Much better than you think.


Yawn all you like. You just confirm what we all know of you all too well with each yawn.


The real question is - what do YOU think you are doing or achieving by being a yawning ****wit? What IS going through what used to be your mind? That is the real question. What YOU make of your yawning?

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Reply #245 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 10:10pm
 
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Reply #246 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 10:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 10:10pm:

Your verbal phase didn't last, did it, moronic little clown.

The effort cost you another soiled nappy and you are out for another 50 posts, yawning.


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Re: Pauline Hanson proved a Racist
Reply #247 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 8:41am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:
It's not wacist to tell a Pakistani to go back to Pakistan any more than saying such a thing to a Dane.


Now tell me, Soren, does the attitude used to express the sentiment affect how it is greeted by a person?  If I say to you, "Go back to Denmark!" is it as racist as saying in a nasty voice, "Piss off back to Denmark, you stupid Dane!"  Why do you deliberately overlook tone and attitude of the utterer?  Is it because you express yourself in a dull, monotonous tone all the time?  Really?  I doubt it myself.  Go on, why don't you piss off to Denmark, you Racist prick?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



"Piss of back to Pakistan" is on the same level as this:

I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples.
We are reminded of the urgency of Treaty with First Nations, justice & reparations for British colonies & becoming a republic.
https://x.com/MehreenFaruqi/status/1568054570169024514


Actually, a bit restrained and mild, considering that Faruqi swore allegiance to be "faithful and bear true allegiance" to the head of the 'racist empire' and derives her salary, parliamentary position, privileges and wealth ENTIRELY from a country under her and her successors' "leadership" that has been 'built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'

(Needless to say, for a parliamentarian, she is completely clueless about the role of the sovereign who is not the leader either of a non-existent Empire or of Australia)

I think a "**** off back to Pakistan, you hypocrite" would have been better suited. Had Faruqi been Australian, a "**** off out of parliament, you hypocrite" would have had to do.  You can substitute any country for Pakistan, wherever such a hypocrite in parliament may come from.




Even the courts said it breached the Racial Discrimination Act.

Stop defending racism.
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Re: Pauline Hanson proved a Racist
Reply #248 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 9:49am
 
'the court' - now there's a good laugh..... they should have laughed it out of the room ...

DID-UMS!  You slag the nation and the visiting king and someone says to you to piss off back home then - and WHAAAAAAAA ... the House should have taken steps to literally throw the baggages out... enough of this 'civil suit' when you are the miscreant...

Our courts are like the UN now - looooong past time for a full overhaul.... send 'em back to the Old blighty!!
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Re: Pauline Hanson proved a Racist
Reply #249 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 10:19am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 8:41am:
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 6:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:47pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:
It's not wacist to tell a Pakistani to go back to Pakistan any more than saying such a thing to a Dane.


Now tell me, Soren, does the attitude used to express the sentiment affect how it is greeted by a person?  If I say to you, "Go back to Denmark!" is it as racist as saying in a nasty voice, "Piss off back to Denmark, you stupid Dane!"  Why do you deliberately overlook tone and attitude of the utterer?  Is it because you express yourself in a dull, monotonous tone all the time?  Really?  I doubt it myself.  Go on, why don't you piss off to Denmark, you Racist prick?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



"Piss of back to Pakistan" is on the same level as this:

I cannot mourn the leader of a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples.
We are reminded of the urgency of Treaty with First Nations, justice & reparations for British colonies & becoming a republic.
https://x.com/MehreenFaruqi/status/1568054570169024514


Actually, a bit restrained and mild, considering that Faruqi swore allegiance to be "faithful and bear true allegiance" to the head of the 'racist empire' and derives her salary, parliamentary position, privileges and wealth ENTIRELY from a country under her and her successors' "leadership" that has been 'built on stolen lives, land and wealth of colonised peoples'

(Needless to say, for a parliamentarian, she is completely clueless about the role of the sovereign who is not the leader either of a non-existent Empire or of Australia)

I think a "**** off back to Pakistan, you hypocrite" would have been better suited. Had Faruqi been Australian, a "**** off out of parliament, you hypocrite" would have had to do.  You can substitute any country for Pakistan, wherever such a hypocrite in parliament may come from.




Even the courts said it breached the Racial Discrimination Act.

Stop defending racism.

It is a stupid legislation and a stupid court decision.

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Reply #250 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 12:11pm
 
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Reply #251 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 12:23pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 9:49am:
'the court' - now there's a good laugh..... they should have laughed it out of the room ...

DID-UMS!  You slag the nation and the visiting king and someone says to you to piss off back home then - and WHAAAAAAAA ... the House should have taken steps to literally throw the baggages out... enough of this 'civil suit' when you are the miscreant...

Our courts are like the UN now - looooong past time for a full overhaul.... send 'em back to the Old blighty!!



Abbott promised to repeal section 18c but chickened out.



All of which brings me to the recently released Faruqi v. Hanson, s.18C hate speech decision in the Federal Court. I’m tempted to steal Shakespeare’s line and say that the case ‘beggars all description’. But I’ll resist that temptation and give you the gist of this woeful decision. To start, recall that this provision was weaponised against Andrew Bolt in 2011 and that Tony Abbott campaigned with a promise to repeal s.18C – which basically makes it unlawful to do a public act that is ‘reasonably likely to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or group… because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person’. Then s.18D exempts acts done reasonably and in good faith on various grounds including in the course of any ‘genuine purpose in the public interest’.

When former PM Abbott ran into strong opposition from the ABC and in his own party room he folded, broke his promise, and never even put the change to the Senate to get it rejected there. (And, boy, did that put offside some of Abbott’s biggest supporters.) A bit later the Turnbull government put some enervated amendments to the Senate. These failed. And as many of us predicted at the time, this free speech-inhibiting law has come back to stifle open and needed debate on controversial issues.

This is just a terrible decision, even admitting that the judge was stuck with a terrible law to apply. But we now have unelected judges policing political debate. Recall that the lawyerly caste last year were massively pro-Yes. As were those judges and ex-judges who voiced public views. I would not want to trust my fate to the judicial caste in this country on any issue that required the judge to take positions on political matters or appropriate worldviews.

Oh, and did I mention that the judge in the Hanson case was appointed by the Coalition? You probably guessed that already.

James Allan is the Garrick Professor of Law at the University of Queensland.
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Reply #252 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 1:07pm
 
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Reply #253 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 1:41pm
 
Unsurprisingly, no Muslim was arrested at the Opera House a year ago for vilification and inciting violence.
No Muslim has been prosecuted for vandalizing numerous political offices, public and private property since then. No Muslim has been prosecuted for occupying universities and menacing Jewish staff and students, continuously threatening bloody violence from the river to the sea.

But if you say to an ingrate from Pakistan to piss off, the law will discover all sorts of things like wacism and, yes, Islamophobia.

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Reply #254 - Dec 3rd, 2024 at 3:45pm
 
Frank, you've got to stop being racist if you don't want people to think you're racist.

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