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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41865	documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia
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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #1 - Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:16am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia Cool

That seems really interesting,

Thanks for posting.

A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic.

But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects.

It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic. I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

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Reply #2 - Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 12:15pm

Deep the paranoia runs within this one....

The campaign to unsettle their petal psyches is working beyond expectations... all they have to see is a headline and off they go.... yardle, yardle, yardle... before anyone even arrives to discuss it....

Wouldn't your time be better spent out there working for some better ideas to help your Aboriginal brethren and sisthren, and maybe mentoring some of them in the proper ways? Maybe you could coach them in a sport and the ideals of sportsmanship and citizenship and responsibility....

What kind of personal specialty do YOU have, Kangala? Maybe go learn one and pass on skills and social interaction skills... maybe prevail upon aqua's daughter to hold an annual boot camp or something for them.... maybe get some Federal and State funding... get together with some genuine Elders (not the Blactivist type of loser), develop a few programs... a little meditation on a hillside.... a quiet country retreat to learn skills and such... socialise...

You'd be a lot better off yourself than coming here and exploding your ulcers trying to get at those who are in the right as regards equality and equal treatment, etc.... trying to undermine those genuinely seeking resolutions for problems, starting with finding where the money is going...

This from a NSW MP:-

"It’s hard to fathom how far we’ve fallen as a society when a violent offender is treated as an honoured guest in the very court where he stands accused of terrorising our community’s most vulnerable.

This week, in Taree District Court, an Indigenous
(I say Aboriginal - I'm 7 generations or so Indigenous)
teenager who pleaded guilty to robbing two elderly women—one 92 and the other 88—was invited to perform a Welcome to Country before being sentenced.

This is a young man who admitted to not only breaking into their homes but also to sexually touching one of these women during his terrifying invasion.

Yet, despite the gravity of his offences, the judge invited him to perform this welcome—a shocking display of misplaced priorities.

Think about the message this sends. It is almost beyond belief.

It is an appalling failure of the judge to prioritise the wellbeing of victims, the integrity of our justice system, and simple common decency.

We are all equal under the law. And the court is there to enforce the law and protect our most vulnerable.

Let's do away with the virtue signalling."

This kind of rubbish is nowhere near a good start... Wink

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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17271 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Reply #3 - Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:09pm U-Sus #1 has entered the chat, contributed nothing to the topic, as expected. Move along Crappler, your usual disparaging remarks towards Indigenous people aren't needed here.
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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #4 - Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:10pm

Now then - for the learned and deep comment:-

This could be interesting to watch - I do hope that the Usual Suspects don't blow a gasket about any ideas or interpretations that might sound remotely critical of their pets... the moment they see a headline like this, their deep-seated paranoia sets in and they see White Sheets under every bed ..... oooOOOOOOOOHHHH!

Think I'll start a new strand here called "Aboriginal Culture 101" - to give the plebs a chance to voice their ideas on 'Aboriginal Culture'... some here reckon they know it all........ now...................... which of the 1100 odd groups do they want to start with? Ummmmm ...

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29602 Gender:	Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:28am One way trade - trepang for whatever the Indos (Moluccans) gave them.
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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #6 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:42am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 1:10pm:

Now then - for the learned and deep comment:-

This could be interesting to watch - I do hope that the Usual Suspects don't blow a gasket about any ideas or interpretations that might sound remotely critical of their pets... the moment they see a headline like this, their deep-seated paranoia sets in and they see White Sheets under every bed ..... oooOOOOOOOOHHHH!

Think I'll start a new strand here called "Aboriginal Culture 101" - to give the plebs a chance to voice their ideas on 'Aboriginal Culture'... some here reckon they know it all........ now...................... which of the 1100 odd groups do they want to start with? Ummmmm ...

You're just modifying people quotes so you can argue with yourself now...

I suppose it's better than accidentally admitting that you're not interested in discussion, only trying to trap people by their comments you demand they make while refusing the reciprocity required to form a discussion and having the cheek to make demands.

Whooooooops!

Shot yourself in the foot, again.

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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #7 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:53pm

Deep runs the paranoia in this one.... the desperate need to try to cling to something from the disastrous defeat... now he sees white sheets in every post...

Have you studied at the mothra school of non-response and deflection?

FYI - it was I who started use of the term 'Usual Suspects' here - years ago. After a while all I had to do was throw in the term 'Usual Suspects' - often with a question mark - and off the Usual Suspect Luvvahs would go, ranting and calling me racist... very much a Pauline Hanson style of 'conviction' ... it was like playing Pavlov with their dogs...... thing about that is that in doing so, they proved that they themselves KNOW who the Usual Suspects were and are in any given situation!!

There is the occasional Unusual Suspect; the exception that proves the rule!!

Rejoice, young man, in the days of your education!

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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #8 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:52pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:53pm:

Deep runs the paranoia in this one.... the desperate need to try to cling to something from the disastrous defeat... now he sees white sheets in every post...

Have you studied at the mothra school of non-response and deflection?

I literally quoted you doing what I said...

You're even failing at trolling at the moment.

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FYI - it was I who started use of the term 'Usual Suspects' here - years ago. After a while all I had to do was throw in the term 'Usual Suspects' - often with a question mark - and off the Usual Suspect Luvvahs would go, ranting and calling me racist... very much a Pauline Hanson style of 'conviction' ... it was like playing Pavlov with their dogs...... thing about that is that in doing so, they proved that they themselves KNOW who the Usual Suspects were and are in any given situation!!

There is the occasional Unusual Suspect; the exception that proves the rule!!

Rejoice, young man, in the days of your education!

What a feather in your cap.

I guess the movie from the 90's ripped you off too?

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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #9 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia Cool

That seems really interesting,

Thanks for posting.

A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic.

But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects.

It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic. I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

What IS the interest?

Muslims didnt colonised us Aborigines, they came fishing.
So we welcome Muslims in boats, even as the evil white colonial wacist gubberment don't. Oh - and swimming is Muslim garb is almost Dreamtime, you know.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41865	Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Reply #10 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:06pm
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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #11 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 6:48am

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia Cool

That seems really interesting,

Thanks for posting.

A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic.

But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects.

It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic. I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

What IS the interest?

You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20607 Gordon Gender:	Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Reply #12 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 7:24am One of the main drivers of technological development in a culture is trade and interaction with outside cultures. Aboriginals were frozen perpetually in a rudimentary hunter gatherer culture which suggests any trade was minimal.
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Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones
Reply #13 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 7:29am

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5^th, 2024 at 6:48am:

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:16am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 10:00am:

Wangany Mala documentary screened in NT and Bali explores pre-colonial trade between north-east Arnhem Land and Indonesia Cool

That seems really interesting,

Thanks for posting.

A documentary about pre-colonial trade between Indonesians and some Indigenous Australians, it's an interesting topic.

But since the subject focuses on Indigenous Australians and Muslim people without belittling or degrading them, let me be clear, without naming any names, this will unsettle the usual suspects.

It's a shame, because it's an interesting topic. I hope the documentary is released for general consumption soon.

What IS the interest?

You don't find it interesting to learn more about our past, or elements of Indigenous cultures' interactions with other peoples?

How about you do some research as to when the Indonesian Archipelago came under the influence of Islam?

The time frame is very recent - only about 630 years.

You want to put that into context as to how long Aboriginals reckon they’ve been here?

Seeings they walked through the archipelago to get here and they’ve only been cut off for 8,000 years. Roll Eyes

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35460 Gender:	Re: documentary explores pre-colonial trade to Indones Reply #14 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:08am LOL! So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists. Hilarious! Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up.
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