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Reply #30 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 8:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:43am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am:
It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent.

They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school.

They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism.

Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates.

there's no educating them. they just need to die off.

Tick tock.


And you can phuk off and die too.


I think you need to calm down.

Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to fu
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Well, then - imagine the correct and rightful response to someone arriving here and calling for the extinction of an entire generation.... purest Nazism..


You're going to have to explain what you're talking about here mate...
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Reply #31 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:23pm
 
Why?  You read it yourself - I suppose it was just that in your zeal to dig up anything to criticise the winners with you 'overlooked' the virulent hatred of one 'contributor' here for the Boomers.... they who built the joint...

Go back and look it over....... that's what you ally yourself with... I've tried to save you from yourself - but you will not listen...
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Reply #32 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:41am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:23pm:
Why?  You read it yourself - I suppose it was just that in your zeal to dig up anything to criticise the winners with you 'overlooked' the virulent hatred of one 'contributor' here for the Boomers.... they who built the joint...

Go back and look it over....... that's what you ally yourself with... I've tried to save you from yourself - but you will not listen...


So, let me clarify: you're asserting that because someone suggested people like you might be so entrenched in your views that there's no other option but to wait for your generation to pass, you're calling that "the purest form of Nazism"?

Mr "Maybe 10% are worth saving" thinks giving up trying to change the minds of people like you is calling for the genocide of an entire generation? 

Are you truly equating the resignation to outlasting outdated beliefs with a call for the extermination of an entire generation?

The same Mr. “Genocide would be the lighter option” now finds a way to twist patience into a threat of genocide?

This is rich coming from someone who once remarked, "Be a lot less trouble today if they’d gotten rid of all the Boongs," and yet now dares to label someone else as harbouring "Nazism"?

And let’s not forget, this same Mr. “The best punishment for some is a zip tie around the neck… just saying,” is suddenly scandalised at the thought of others simply waiting for your toxic ideology to expire naturally?

You’re treading into dangerous, hypocritical territory if you’re suggesting that Nazism equates to not engaging with those who refuse to evolve beyond outdated beliefs, and especially so given your outspoken endorsement of the British systematically eliminating entire Indigenous communities, among other truly abhorrent views.

Is this really a road you want to go down?
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Reply #33 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:53am
 
So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith.
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Reply #34 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 8:12am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:53am:
So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith.


Sure, sure - we always know that's what you are attempting... on your terms which don't hunt.

Got you so conditioned now you can't even find the issues.

So far about 10% of the Aboriginal population have saved themselves - why would anyone consider that any more than 10% of the remainder - the new lots coming on - are worth saving from themselves?

I don't hold any entrenched ideas or views - I judge on the facts in front of me.  It is your side of losers who are now entrenched and struggling to hold the future out.... it's very clear what the future holds for these divisive policies and putsches for Aboriginal supremacy in this land.

So - what did they trade with Indonesia?  Holden cars?  More likely Indonesians did a Captain Cook, took a look, and then they took it on the hook ... nice enough place to visit and maybe lay claim to in the overall state of things, but you couldn't force a convict to willingly live there.....

"Hey, Shukasabong - how did your trip across the Strait go?  Good place to visit - maybe migrate to?"

"Nah - nothing there but heat, swamps, insects, deserts, animals you can't really eat, droughts or floods, and ugly native women.... you could develop it, I suppose, but it would take a coupla hundred years and billions of baht.... you couldn't give tickets away for a tour... I'll stick with Bali, thanks......"

"What did you trade?"

"Got some artefacts here... as long as they don't want them back - Aborigine Givers, you know ... give stuff as presents and then whine about them being stolen .. jeez - that Bathiry woman in Romania did that to a wandering Gypsy lad once .. had him stuck in the Iron Maiden ... swapped some nets and fly traps for them..."
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Reply #35 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 11:08am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 8:12am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:53am:
So much for another reset and attempt to act in good faith.


Sure, sure - we always know that's what you are attempting... on your terms which don't hunt.


If you would like to define what you consider to be a good faith discussion, we can try again and hold you to that if you like?
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Reply #36 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 2:54pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:43am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am:
It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent.

They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school.

They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism.

Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates.

there's no educating them. they just need to die off.

Tick tock.


And you can phuk off and die too.


I think you need to calm down.

Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to fu
ck
off and die.

I wasn’t referring to you and she was inferring what amounts to the same thing.
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Reply #37 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:51am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:22am:
mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:08am:
LOL!

So much butt-hurt over the mere exposure to the awareness that a documentary exists.

Hilarious!

Thanks for the head's up, Brian. I'll be sure to look this up.


Calm down Miss Conniptions

Why don’t you ask Bwyan to offer an opinion on why he posted the clip and what he gained from watching it?


Clip? It was an article about a documentary, Gonads.

Yet you didn't even bother to learn that much.

So i guess i rest my case.


Video clip you pedantic bint.
So it was about a documentary… so what?
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Reply #38 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 2:59pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:29am:
Given the very strict rules regarding interbreeding even among Aboriginal tribes - rules that still exist today, it would be almost certain that any productive interbreeding between Indonesian and Aboriginal peoples in Australia would have resulted in at least infanticide if not also the death of the mother at the hands of her clan/tribe relatives.


Plenty of interbred Aboriginals/Timorese/ Indonesians in the top end now. Jessica Mauboy ring any bells?
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Reply #39 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 3:04pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:38pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 5:25pm:
What did they trade?  Roo skins for fish?

Yeah, why not?!


Trepang/ sea cucumber for the Indos

I would imagine better tools for the Aboriginals.
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Reply #40 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 3:20pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 2:54pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:43am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:36am:
It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent.

They are bitter and resentful of a people they see as getting special privileges and whose entire existence is made up, in their minds, of what they were taught in school.

They bitterly resent any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism.

Amazingly and just worthy of theses, they see them as ingrates.

there's no educating them. they just need to die off.

Tick tock.


And you can phuk off and die too.


I think you need to calm down.

Saying someone is so set in their ways that their mind won't change and their toxicity will only end when they die is vastly different to telling someone to fu
ck
off and die.

I wasn’t referring to you and she was inferring what amounts to the same thing.


So you and yours will use the defence that you didn't flat out say something, even if you inferred it, like the 10% style comments, but you're ok to judge others of how you interpret their inferences?

Poor form...

What she said and meant is nothing like how your interpreting it.

It's simple, you lot won't ever change your minds, so we just have to wait until you expire before your terrible beliefs no longer infect the landscape.

If you want to change the rules around inferences you'd better pepper your angus because you and the other tards are in for a world of pain.
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Reply #41 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 4:34pm
 
"It's not you, Kanga, it's what you represent. 
that's once in the 24 hours, clock....


any information that even suggests, let alone proves, that the First Nations people were anything more than brutal hunter gatherers who were saved by colonialism. 
so they traded ... what ... with some Indos who dropped in but didn't consider the joint worth staying in ... so what?  Hunter gatherers worldwide trade stuff.... it's no big deal... why do YOU so desperately need to make out it makes something more of them than survival level hunter-gatherers? 

YOU GOT SOMETHING AGAINST HUNTER-GATHERERS?


Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #42 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 4:50pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 2:59pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:29am:
Given the very strict rules regarding interbreeding even among Aboriginal tribes - rules that still exist today, it would be almost certain that any productive interbreeding between Indonesian and Aboriginal peoples in Australia would have resulted in at least infanticide if not also the death of the mother at the hands of her clan/tribe relatives.


Plenty of interbred Aboriginals/Timorese/ Indonesians in the top end now. Jessica Mauboy ring any bells?

Yep, well plenty look like Nordic opera singers as well these days but 6000BC?
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