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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:33am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:27am:

Anyway - the rate or Removals continues to rise following Rudd's groveling ..... I think this needs a Royal Commission - perhaps part of the one into crime etc in the NT and such...

This whole arena needs to be fully publicly aired for once... workers and courts have to jump through hoops to remove kids these days - why is it on the increase in Nirvana?

Bonus Question:- HTF would this fantasy voice have helped there? I'll bet the occupants of this 'special house of parliament' would want Ministerial salaries etc. Australia dodged a bullet there.... now to stop the Voice By Stealth....

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #16 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:29pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2024 at 6:22pm:

That settles it then, people - apparently there is no Aboriginal culture worth discussing... not a single soul has any idea what 'Aboriginal culture' was or is.

All that empty talk - for nothing.... Undecided

Ok. As a retired nurse, I am quite horrified at the thought of young boys subjected to the "cultural" practice of subincision.

Worse, these kids are denied the protection of basic human rights by Australian courts specifically because it is their culture.

And having worked in mental health, I wonder how this terribly painful mutilation affects them psychologically.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:49pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:33am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:27am:

Anyway - the rate or Removals continues to rise following Rudd's groveling ..... I think this needs a Royal Commission - perhaps part of the one into crime etc in the NT and such...

This whole arena needs to be fully publicly aired for once... workers and courts have to jump through hoops to remove kids these days - why is it on the increase in Nirvana?

Bonus Question:- HTF would this fantasy voice have helped there? I'll bet the occupants of this 'special house of parliament' would want Ministerial salaries etc. Australia dodged a bullet there.... now to stop the Voice By Stealth....

More demands.

Be better chump.

Deeper runs the paranoia in this one... why are you so terrified of having the full truth openly assembled, adjudicated on and perhaps some solutions found? This is like arguing with some tranny advocate who tears at the Cass Review Recommendations..... note again - Recommendations.... what are you so afraid of?

Full and open discussion of all issues including why some are revolving door criminals convicted going to open too many doors you'd rather have closed forever?

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:33am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 11:27am:

Anyway - the rate or Removals continues to rise following Rudd's groveling ..... I think this needs a Royal Commission - perhaps part of the one into crime etc in the NT and such...

This whole arena needs to be fully publicly aired for once... workers and courts have to jump through hoops to remove kids these days - why is it on the increase in Nirvana?

Bonus Question:- HTF would this fantasy voice have helped there? I'll bet the occupants of this 'special house of parliament' would want Ministerial salaries etc. Australia dodged a bullet there.... now to stop the Voice By Stealth....

More demands.

Be better chump.

Deeper runs the paranoia in this one... why are you so terrified of having the full truth openly assembled, adjudicated on and perhaps some solutions found? This is like arguing with some tranny advocate who tears at the Cass Review Recommendations..... note again - Recommendations.... what are you so afraid of?

Full and open discussion of all issues including why some are revolving door criminals convicted going to open too many doors you'd rather have closed forever?

Frankly, it's becoming glaringly obvious that you have no grasp of what paranoia actually entails.

What’s even more predictable is how you’ve latched onto someone else’s apt description of you, most likely one that struck a nerve when it dared to highlight your absurd, self-aggrandising fears of some mythical "Aboriginal supremacy" campaign against you.

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #19 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:42pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Frankly, it's becoming glaringly obvious that you have no grasp of what paranoia actually entails.

What’s even more predictable is how you’ve latched onto someone else’s apt description of you, most likely one that struck a nerve when it dared to highlight your absurd, self-aggrandising fears of some mythical "Aboriginal supremacy" campaign against you.

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

So WHAT IS your knowledge and insight about Aboriginal culture, then?

Every time the opportunity comes up to share your knowledge and insight, you keep talking about everything else BUT Aboriginal culture.

Why do you avoid telling us what's great and wonderful and unrecognised about it? Go on, you must have a vast and deep understanding of it. Share.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:49pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Frankly, it's becoming glaringly obvious that you have no grasp of what paranoia actually entails.

What’s even more predictable is how you’ve latched onto someone else’s apt description of you, most likely one that struck a nerve when it dared to highlight your absurd, self-aggrandising fears of some mythical "Aboriginal supremacy" campaign against you.

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

Would you like me to edit that rant until it approximates reality?

Done, said the genie... now for your third wish, Master....

Perhaps close this gap?

"Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people make up about 85 per cent of the NT's prison population, despite accounting for just 26 per cent of the general population." (76/81) ...

Hmmmm - maybe we should re-visit that Middle East question...

It's incredible that you, in your deepening confusion and paranoia, somehow feel that my suggestion of a Royal Commission into all of these things, all aspects thereof .. a full truth-telling to get to the bottom of it - is a 'demand' of some kind. Now that's paranoid, son..... and delusional... and is clearly evading discussion of the realities...

Don't you think a royal commission into all this trouble for Aborigines would put the wood to any 'racism' involved .. any treatment different from anyone else under the laws of the land?

WHY are you so terrified of this idea? It was - again - only a suggestion... and it might help ... you know... HELP them Abos - unlike that silly voice idea which would only establish their aristocracy in style inside Parliament with perks for life out of it..... imagine the sheer pleasure of running around the country out of the taxpayer's pocket to Barilaro a perfect job for yourself?

Jeez - that's in line with that sheila on Novosti today - 'persuaded' to accept a $315,000 'separation fee' to leave a government department after having an affair with the boss... jeez - they tried to screw Trump for paying off a porn star with her hand out for hush money - and not for paying her - for supposedly using one of his companies to pay her.... well - woopty-doo!

Now the passport office - staffed by Usual Suspects on affirmative action and inclusion policies (cha-ching - money shot) ... is under fire for MASSIVE malfeasance, with 18 'officers' and $1.6Bn .....

What is Australia coming to? And I call for a costly Royal Commission in the NT (and related states with the same problems) to look at the REASONS for all these Aboriginal troubles and to suggest solutions - and you scream the house down!!!

Pure paranoia, son.... finest vintage... maybe I should ask people what they think such a Royal Commission would end up recommending....................................... (lets that one hang in the air) ................................

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #21 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 6:36am

Frank wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Frankly, it's becoming glaringly obvious that you have no grasp of what paranoia actually entails.

What’s even more predictable is how you’ve latched onto someone else’s apt description of you, most likely one that struck a nerve when it dared to highlight your absurd, self-aggrandising fears of some mythical "Aboriginal supremacy" campaign against you.

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

So WHAT IS your knowledge and insight about Aboriginal culture, then?

Every time the opportunity comes up to share your knowledge and insight, you keep talking about everything else BUT Aboriginal culture.

Why do you avoid telling us what's great and wonderful and unrecognised about it? Go on, you must have a vast and deep understanding of it. Share.

It’s not avoidance; it’s the futility of every attempt to meet your demands in good faith. Each time I grant you the benefit of the doubt, I'm reminded that your participation in this forum isn’t motivated by genuine discussion on Indigenous issues.

When I engage with you and those like you, it devolves into endless demands for insights and explanations, without the slightest reciprocation. Worse still, as we saw with Crappler, you admit outright that your aim was never to discuss in good faith, but merely to lay bait in the hopes of landing a gotcha.

Your contributions seem consistently directed at baiting, disparaging, and seizing any excuse to hurl demeaning remarks at Indigenous people, occasionally slipping in slurs when you think you can get away with it.

If you want to pretend to be here for an actual discussion, you’ll need to make the first move and demonstrate your capacity for it. So far, you’ve proven only the opposite.

You and your kind have rendered yourselves untrustworthy, a position you've earned by your own actions. And Crappler, in particular, has dug an especially deep well of distrust, with no apparent intention of climbing out.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #22 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 6:39am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:49pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Frankly, it's becoming glaringly obvious that you have no grasp of what paranoia actually entails.

What’s even more predictable is how you’ve latched onto someone else’s apt description of you, most likely one that struck a nerve when it dared to highlight your absurd, self-aggrandising fears of some mythical "Aboriginal supremacy" campaign against you.

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

Would you like me to edit that rant until it approximates reality?

Done, said the genie... now for your third wish, Master....

Your reaction only proves two things, I was over the target and you in fact do not understand what paranoia is.

Every time you're confronted with truths you cannot accept, you just pretend they were never uttered,

And the funniest part is, you did exactly what I've been talking about.

You bring up other topics, topics I've not weighed in on yet (and we know why, the reciprocity issues), you make up a position you think you can argue against, and then start arguing with yourself.

You're so desperate for conflict you're making it up.

All to avoid having to "spring your own trap" it would seem since you've waffled on endlessly rather than sharing your own thoughts on Indigenous culture, something you're going to need to do first if you want any chance of keeping this "good faith" discussion charade going.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #23 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:42am

Some people may believe that it is Aboriginal Culture, which produces,
1/ conflict and murder [many, many, many, very violent family feuds among indigenous people],
2/ family abuse and rape of partners and other close family members,
3/ public drunkenness [street drinking, park drinking],
4/ stealing the property of others, often with violence [house breaking and theft, and robbery].

Not all indigenous people 'do' this behaviour.

Many indigenous people i have known, are moral people and good citizens.

Q.

What is 'Truth Telling' ?
......what is it worth, without......truth ?

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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COMMENT;
Even 'white' people no longer believe in the commonsense precepts for living,
outlined below.

QUESTION;
In consequence, what is happening to 'WESTERN' culture [and in 'white' societies],
right before our own eyes ???
[.....see the list at the beginning of this post !!]

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"Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD;
and in his law doth he meditate day and night."

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I love the God of Israel, i love His law.

Guilty.

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Matthew 6:33
.....seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness.....

and....

Matthew 19:17
[Jesus said].....if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #24 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:53am

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

And here you are, weakly wielding it against others, as though the original point wasn’t squarely aimed at your own insecurities.

Every feeble attempt you make only highlights your utter lack of originality and the pitiful transparency of your agenda.

Doesn’t it exhaust you, this unending cycle of banal, pathetic delusion?

That's exactly what Crappler does, repeats what you say to him back at you ... as though it fits.

Alsmost everything he types is stolen phrases from other posters.

This of course not only point to lack of originality and ability to tailor make an argument ... but, more worryingly to an obsession with posters who've dared challenge him.

A matter in which i speak from considerable experience. Pretty sure i'm mentioned in his batshit crazy rants at least a couple of times a day. every day. For years.

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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #25 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 9:57am

Wow! All that for asking for a little revelation on what people consider to be this 'Aboriginal culture' they grab the high ground about so readily.... this is like playing chess with pigeons...

I wonder if methra has any ideas on what 'Aboriginal culture' is..... or is hshe just here for the venting as usual?

It's clear that nobody has any idea what 'Aboriginal culture' is at all - and with 1100+ groups ....... it seems near impossible to get a firm grip on it at all...

Methra - tell us about what 'Aboriginal culture' is...... you're the expert at everything ..... BTW - I note that I am the first port of call for you and Skanka every day... as usual, you've got everything backwards.... do you also walk backwards? I'm curious....

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35465 Gender:	Re: Aboriginal Culture 101 Reply #28 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:16am Well you didn't even know they ate plant matter til last week ... and still you argued about it ... so i'm not even remotely interested in educating you. May i suggest this as a starting point? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_culture
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Re: Aboriginal Culture 101
Reply #29 - Nov 5^th, 2024 at 10:20am

Who said they didn't eat plant matter? The point remains that their diet was protein heavy and unbalanced and they had an early mortality along with a massive infant mortality rate........ that remains true to this day of easy food and largely accounts for their diabetes and mortality rates.....

Smith, I think, said some lived to 60+ and maybe even 80 while the 'Poms' (I have little such ancestry) were cheap side at 30-40 - I responded that I have some ancestors who made it past 100 ...

Macca's and such will do that to you.... shorten your life if over-consumed ... even that Aboriginal woman in that alternative to prison thing was baking roo tails on an open fire as part of the 're-acculturisation' - no veggies in sight.

Your usual broad sweeping generalisations and false interpretations of what people actually say is beyond a joke.... are you - perhaps - a transplanted Pole or something .... you heard about the Pole dancer... slipped on the Pole's back and broke an ankle....

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