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Nov 5th, 2024 at 8:31am
 
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Reply #1 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 9:23am
 
Musk's got the Yankist disease on the reasons for the 2nd Amendment.

Some have delusions that it was added to safeguard against government overreach - as if the Founding Fathers were encouraging the people to take up arms against the new republic's government.

Others, like Musk, entertain the notion that it was to protect the First Amendment

It was a reaction to the British-imposed law on the colonists restricting their right to possess arms - referred to directly in the Declaration of Independence as one of its list of grievances against the king who brought on 'the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages' and left them, without arms, defenceless.

It later referred to the people's readiness and capacity to defend the republic against all enemies - foreign or domestic - particularly against the feared return of the British, the Spanish and the French.
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Reply #2 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 11:22am
 
Rogan criticises Democrat's bullshit-spreading but defends Trump's Obama-birther bullshit as not Trump's fault, but that he was 'badly advised'.

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Reply #3 - Nov 5th, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
In summary, it was a tedious interview, with Rogan playing fanboy to Musk.

At least three times Rogan lauded Musk's purchase of Twitter as an altruistic act in the service of democracy.

At least three times, Musk carped on about this being the last election if Trump is not elected.

Yes, Musk is an engineering/ tech genius... Was Einstein a tiresome old nutjob if he veered off beyond theoretical physics, I wonder.
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Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 7:22am
 
Rogan's conversational interview style inadvertently acts as a myth-buster on guests who have cultivated a personality mythos or had it foisted on them by the media.

The primary 'given' is that: if you're a genius in one field, it qualifies you to claim superhuman insight into every other field.

Musk's claptrap on US politics is straight out of Trumpistan - with his dire warning that if Trump is not elected, the US democracy project is over...

Aww, please... the same project that was born in revolution, survived a catastrophic civil war, the end of slavery, two world wars, the Great Depression, the wild popularity of European autocracies, assassinations, racial segregation, mass civil disturbances and rioting, the downfall of a corrupt president, military adventurism...

Yeah, right Elon... US democracy is doomed if Trump doesn't get up... More like Musk's power grab is doomed if Trump doesn't get up.

The second (in Musk's case) is that he can act independently and with impunity with the use of his company's infrastructure - particularly Starlink - even at the risk of threatening US national security.

This is something that Rachel Maddow was recently peddling when she claimed that Musk unilaterally decided to shut down Starlink over Taiwan as a personal favour to Putin and Xi Jinping!! And, of course, the CIA, DoD and NSA were biting their nails at their inability to stop this act of 'Dr Evil'.

When it comes to US national security, Musk wouldn't be able to wipe his arse without clearing it with US national security services first.
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Reply #5 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 9:09am
 
Joe Rogan endorses Trump after eleventh-hour Elon Musk interview


Donald Trump’s podcast bonanza just paid off with the biggest win possible: a formal endorsement from Joe Rogan, whose massive audience has been coveted by both Trump and Kamala Harris in the final days of the election.

In Rogan’s latest episode, with top Trump surrogate and X CEO Elon Musk, the two talked for almost three hours in Rogan’s Austin studio — standard fare for his show, which was apparently too much for the sitting vice president, whose team would only agree to an hour-long interview on the road, which never occurred. But the most important takeaway came when Rogan posted the episode, along with his commentary. “If it wasn’t for [Musk] we’d be buggered,” Rogan wrote. “He makes what I think is the most compelling case for Trump you’ll hear, and I agree with him every step of the way. For the record, yes, that’s an endorsement of Trump.”

Trump, Rogan said, is “so crazy, that if you tell him he can’t be president,” as Seth Meyers did during an infamous White House Correspondents’ Dinner speech, he will go “‘OK motherbuggerer’” and do it. Musk, it turns out, was at that dinner.

For weeks, Musk and his America PAC have been making the case for Trump from Michigan to Madison Square Garden. On Rogan, Musk — while donning a trademark “Occupy Mars” shirt — stumped for Trump and against the Democratic Party in between discussions about video game-playing surgeons, Alex Jones, his latest awe-inspiring “chopsticks” rocket catch, Barack Obama’s chef, Hillary Clinton’s alleged body count, Peanut the Squirrel, Anthony Fauci — whom Rogan called a “monster” — and the dangers of George Soros-funded prosecutors.

“If Trump doesn’t win, this’ll be the last real election in America,” Musk said, to Rogan’s agreement.

“They’re doing all of the things that they accuse Trump of doing,” Musk said, as the pair discussed the litany of Biden administration lawsuits targeting Musk’s vast business empire. “The sheer number of hoaxes that the Democratic Party is pushing over and over again,” including that Trump wants Liz Cheney to be shot, that Trump said that there are “very fine people on both sides” at Charlottesville — which Joe Biden said was the original impetus for his 2020 presidential campaign, and which Obama just invoked on the trail. “I was like what the flying bugger?” Musk said.

“Thank you so much for buying Twitter,” Rogan said at one point to Musk. “I’m not exaggerating when I think you changed the course of history. I really do. You made a fork in the road, we were headed down a path of censorship and a control of narratives that is unprecedented.” Rogan noted that YouTube “did something weird, they won’t say what they did,” with the post of his interview of Trump. “There’s no excuse for that,” Musk said. “Thank God we put it on X as well,” Rogan said — he even credited Musk with helping move Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta back to the center.

“Community Notes is the best; it’s incredible,” Rogan gushed.

Rogan has been a longtime fan of Musk’s, repeatedly comparing him favorably to Iron Man, but doing The Joe Rogan Experience hasn’t always been without risk for Musk; during one infamous appearance in 2018, he smoked weed with Rogan and Tesla’s stock plummeted as a result.

While Musk did materially harm Tesla during one of his appearances on Rogan, the two men both defended the $44 billion deal to buy Twitter as proof of Musk’s business acumen. Much of the criticism of the deal, they said, comes from bitter journalists and organizations with “Orwellian names,” like the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which Musk tried to sue earlier this year. “They’re like the Ministry of Truth,” Musk said, predicting that if Trump wins, that much of the remaining advertiser boycott will lift.

Musk’s appearance — and Rogan’s subsequent endorsement of Trump — marks the death knell in Harris’s awkward courtship with Rogan, a former Bernie Sanders 2020 voter. If the richest man in the world, who is spending millions of his own dollars to attempt to elect Trump, can appear on Rogan the day before the election, surely Harris could have found the time to do so during her bizarre campaign swing through Texas.

But it’s not just Musk who made it awkward; Harris’s fellow Democrat, Senator John Fetterman, just sat down with Musk too. Trump and his running mate, J.D. Vance, also sat down with the podcaster in recent weeks.

Trump has been rolling out endorsements from other top podcasters in recent weeks. His former foe, Megyn Kelly, just endorsed him as well — as did the roast comic Tony Hinchcliffe, himself a Rogan alum, although his joke about Puerto Rico being an island of “garbage” likely harmed Trump more than his endorsement helped him.

Rogan’s Musk interview also caps a remarkable string of success for the podcaster in terms of breaking into the legacy media’s coverage. If Trump ends up winning tomorrow, powered by a surge in support from young male voters who were unlikely to turn out, Harris will probably regret appearing on Saturday Night Live and turning down The Joe Rogan Experience.

The post Joe Rogan endorses Trump after eleventh-hour Elon Musk interview appeared first on The Spectator World.
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Reply #6 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 10:47am
 
Something that has just come out about Rogan and Trump.

Rogan did not want to do the interview but did it as a favour to Dana White.

Then Musk leant on Rogan to endorse Trump as a favour to him,

Rogan's a great interviewer in the conversational style, but as dumb as a rock (in his own words, 'a complete moron') and is obsessed with all things Musk.
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Reply #7 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 12:17pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 6th, 2024 at 10:47am:
Something that has just come out about Rogan and Trump.

Rogan did not want to do the interview but did it as a favour to Dana White.

Then Musk leant on Rogan to endorse Trump as a favour to him,

Rogan's a great interviewer in the conversational style, but as dumb as a rock (in his own words, 'a complete moron') and is obsessed with all things Musk.

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Soooooo.... what's the leverage on Rogan, then.

Please explain.

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