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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #15 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:01am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:48am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:45am:

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Why did Trump win?

Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

We seen in 2016 that the people prefered a clown to a woman.

All it takes is 6%, 8% or 10% of people spread across the country to change an election outcome.

Here we had the option between the worst President virtually ever or a Black Woman.

In the end being a criminal didn't matter, Being a rapist didn't matter, Being an insurrectionist didn't matter, being an authoritarian and a idiocrat mattered not even his tired old brain falling apart didn't matter. Fact is the orange clown isn't a woman was all that really counted.

The Americans made their bed. Now they get to pay the cost.

Bullshit - it was about:
the cost of living,
mass immigration,
WW3 starting in Ukraine and Israel

to name a few topics.

Kamala dealt with none of them.

All those likely get worse under Trump. Republicans will likely be looking up the 25th and Vance could be a worse disaster.

Trump is a bit old -

I hope he can survive 4 years but
Vance looks like someone who can carry on the same crusade.

A crusade against what and whom would be the question Australians should be asking.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20607 Gordon Gender:	Re: Why did Trump win? Reply #16 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:02am Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:45am: Quote: Why did Trump win? Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either. Why are you obsessed with the color of her skin and not her character, which is the reason she was slaughtered Are you a racist?
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #17 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:03am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:48am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:45am:

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Why did Trump win?

Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

We seen in 2016 that the people prefered a clown to a woman.

All it takes is 6%, 8% or 10% of people spread across the country to change an election outcome.

Here we had the option between the worst President virtually ever or a Black Woman.

In the end being a criminal didn't matter, Being a rapist didn't matter, Being an insurrectionist didn't matter, being an authoritarian and a idiocrat mattered not even his tired old brain falling apart didn't matter. Fact is the orange clown isn't a woman was all that really counted.

The Americans made their bed. Now they get to pay the cost.

Bullshit - it was about:
the cost of living,
mass immigration,
WW3 starting in Ukraine and Israel

to name a few topics.

Kamala dealt with none of them.

All those likely get worse under Trump. Republicans will likely be looking up the 25th and Vance could be a worse disaster.

Vance will be nothing but a puppet VP who will do whatever Trump tells him to do. Should he ever become President for some reason during the next four years, America will have a clueless, spineless beard leading the country into the abyss.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Why did Trump win? Reply #18 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am Quote: Why did Trump win? Donald's hats are better, that is why.
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #19 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:01am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:48am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:45am:

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Why did Trump win?

Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

We seen in 2016 that the people prefered a clown to a woman.

All it takes is 6%, 8% or 10% of people spread across the country to change an election outcome.

Here we had the option between the worst President virtually ever or a Black Woman.

In the end being a criminal didn't matter, Being a rapist didn't matter, Being an insurrectionist didn't matter, being an authoritarian and a idiocrat mattered not even his tired old brain falling apart didn't matter. Fact is the orange clown isn't a woman was all that really counted.

The Americans made their bed. Now they get to pay the cost.

Bullshit - it was about:
the cost of living,
mass immigration,
WW3 starting in Ukraine and Israel

to name a few topics.

Kamala dealt with none of them.

All those likely get worse under Trump. Republicans will likely be looking up the 25th and Vance could be a worse disaster.

Trump is a bit old -

I hope he can survive 4 years but
Vance looks like someone who can carry on the same crusade.

A crusade against what and whom would be the question Australians should be asking.

here:

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Deep state? What deep state? Huh

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105085 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why did Trump win? Reply #20 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am: Deep state? What deep state? The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies: CIA, FBI, DOJ, NRO, NSA, DOD, DHS, DEA, CID. Trump will put his own men in charge of them. Many of their members will go on trial.
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20395 Perth Gender:	Re: Why did Trump win? Reply #21 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:12am I said from the moment Kamala Harris announced her Presidency that Americans would not elect a black woman....The Democrats are being gracious and accepting of Trump's victory which is the complete opposite of how Trump took his loss in 2020....I look forward to 4 years of chaos and division under Trump!!!
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #22 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:15am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Deep state? What deep state? Huh

The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies:
CIA,
FBI,
DOJ,
NRO,
NSA,
DOD,
DHS,
DEA,
CID.

Trump will put his own men in charge of them.
Many of their members will go on trial.

You realise this is precisely what dictators do, right? They install people loyal to them who feel beholden to him and will only tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear. America will be far worse off for it. There's nothing wrong with having people who disagree with you. It's not a bad thing to listen to more than one point of view. Unless you're Trump and you wrongly think you know better than everyone else, that you're always the smartest person in the room. If what you say happens, it will be a disaster for America's national security.

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #23 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:18am

Gordon wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:45am:

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Why did Trump win?

Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

Why are you obsessed with the color of her skin and not her character, which is the reason she was slaughtered

Are you a racist?

Her character - compared to Trump - even Epstein said that Trump has no morals at all.

You could hardly make a more ridiculous claim.

Remember when the biggest complaint they had against her was that maybe she might not have worked for McDonalds. Of course there was no evidence that she hadn't.

You think that some proportion of Americans didn't vote based on sex and or colour? That is just ridiculous.

My point is that this was not the election to test them on this it was too important.

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #24 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:18am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Deep state? What deep state? Huh

The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies:
CIA,
FBI,
DOJ,
NRO,
NSA,
DOD,
DHS,
DEA,
CID.

Trump will put his own men in charge of them.
Many of their members will go on trial.

Those men he puts in charge have their own egos and ambitions and will soon have more sh!t on the president to leverage off... or advise him in a way that suits their ends at the expense of Trump's presidency.

Trump's a geriatric... It will be no problem for the sharp-minded machiavellian to lead him into hell.

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #25 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:19am

The big 5 main reasons IMHO For The Democrats Loss:
1) Inflation, cost of living
2) Illegal immigration/Border failure
3) Persecuting Trump and making him a Martyr to follow and support against the establishment.

(only works if the target caves or in countries with complete control of the justice system).
4) Hiding Biden's cognitive deficiency and getting caught without enough time to hold an actual candidate competition to select a real, talented, Democrat leader.
5) Radical leftists gaining too much control.

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #26 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:27am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Deep state? What deep state? Huh

The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies:
CIA,
FBI,
DOJ,
NRO,
NSA,
DOD,
DHS,
DEA,
CID.

Trump will put his own men in charge of them.
Many of their members will go on trial.

You realise this is precisely what dictators do, right? They install people loyal to them who feel beholden to him and will only tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear. America will be far worse off for it. There's nothing wrong with having people who disagree with you. It's not a bad thing to listen to more than one point of view. Unless you're Trump and you wrongly think you know better than everyone else, that you're always the smartest person in the room. If what you say happens, it will be a disaster for America's national security.

But they committed appalling crimes:

https://countersignal.medium.com/how-the-january-6-capitol-riots-were-an-fbi-ent...

Jan 6th FBI entrapment operation.
How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation

Jan 7, 2024

“The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021,
that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how
many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices
were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.”

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #27 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:36am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Deep state? What deep state? Huh

The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies:
CIA,
FBI,
DOJ,
NRO,
NSA,
DOD,
DHS,
DEA,
CID.

Trump will put his own men in charge of them.
Many of their members will go on trial.

You realise this is precisely what dictators do, right? They install people loyal to them who feel beholden to him and will only tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear. America will be far worse off for it. There's nothing wrong with having people who disagree with you. It's not a bad thing to listen to more than one point of view. Unless you're Trump and you wrongly think you know better than everyone else, that you're always the smartest person in the room. If what you say happens, it will be a disaster for America's national security.

But they committed appalling crimes:

https://countersignal.medium.com/how-the-january-6-capitol-riots-were-an-fbi-ent...

Jan 6th FBI entrapment operation.
How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation

Jan 7, 2024

“The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021,
that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how
many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices
were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.”

A conspiracy theory website run by fringe lunatics is your source? Way to destroy your credibility!!! Grin

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #28 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:39am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:15am:

You realise this is precisely what dictators do, right? They install people loyal to them who feel beholden to him and will only tell him what he wants to hear, not what he needs to hear. America will be far worse off for it. There's nothing wrong with having people who disagree with you. It's not a bad thing to listen to more than one point of view. Unless you're Trump and you wrongly think you know better than everyone else, that you're always the smartest person in the room. If what you say happens, it will be a disaster for America's national security.

There's also no such thing as a safe autocrat... There's always the 'Palace Coup' to worry about... The 'loyal friend' collecting kompromat...

It's why all autocrats ultimately need to murder their close associates and 'loyal friends', or at least trash their reputations in public.

We're apes first, humans second.

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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #29 - Nov 7^th, 2024 at 12:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:04am:

Deep state? What deep state? Huh

The Deep State runs America - all those 3 letter agencies:
CIA,
FBI,
DOJ,
NRO,
NSA,
DOD,
DHS,
DEA,
CID.

Trump will put his own men in charge of them.
Many of their members will go on trial.

Like a rolling stone
Like a rolling stone
Like a rolling stone
Like the FBI
And the CIA
And the BBC
B.B. King
And Doris Day
Matt Busby, dig it, dig it
Dig it, dig it, dig it

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