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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #30 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:16pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:01am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:55am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:48am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:45am:
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Why did Trump win?


Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

We seen in 2016 that the people prefered a clown to a woman.

All it takes is 6%, 8% or 10% of people spread across the country to change an election outcome.

Here we had the option between the worst President virtually ever or a Black Woman.

In the end being a criminal didn't matter, Being a rapist didn't matter, Being an insurrectionist didn't matter, being an authoritarian and a idiocrat mattered not even his tired old brain falling apart didn't matter. Fact is the orange clown isn't a woman was all that really counted.

The Americans made their bed. Now they get to pay the cost.



Bullshit - it was about:
the cost of living,
mass immigration,
WW3 starting in Ukraine and Israel

to name a few topics.

Kamala dealt with none of them.


All those likely get worse under Trump. Republicans will likely be looking up the 25th and Vance could be a worse disaster.



Trump is a bit old -

I hope he can survive 4 years but
Vance looks like someone who can carry on the same crusade.

A crusade against what and whom would be the question Australians should be asking.



here:
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/168/307/245/original/1f5881
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How does the US 'deep state' affect Australians?

What about the crusade against imports into the US?
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #31 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:24pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:01am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:55am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:50am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:48am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:45am:
[quote] Why did Trump win?


Democrats made the error of going with a Woman and Black didn't help either.

We seen in 2016 that the people prefered a clown to a woman.

All it takes is 6%, 8% or 10% of people spread across the country to change an election outcome.

Here we had the option between the worst President virtually ever or a Black Woman.

In the end being a criminal didn't matter, Being a rapist didn't matter, Being an insurrectionist didn't matter, being an authoritarian and a idiocrat mattered not even his tired old brain falling apart didn't matter. Fact is the orange clown isn't a woman was all that really counted.

The Americans made their bed. Now they get to pay the cost.



Bullshit - it was about:
the cost of living,
mass immigration,
WW3 starting in Ukraine and Israel

to name a few topics.

Kamala dealt with none of them.


All those likely get worse under Trump. Republicans will likely be looking up the 25th and Vance could be a worse disaster.



Trump is a bit old -

I hope he can survive 4 years but
Vance looks like someone who can carry on the same crusade.

A crusade against what and whom would be the question Australians should be asking.


How does the US 'deep state' affect Australians?


The Oz 'deep state': Gina giving Peter free rides on her private jets; and Gina's (and friends including Murdoch's rags)  refusal to consider  resource-rent taxes, etc etc.   

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What about the crusade against imports into the US?


The next 2 years will be 'fery interestink'....
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Reply #32 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:26pm
 
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Why did President Trump win this election?

President Trump won simply because he consistently had the best & strongest message coupled with the best policies to implement them.

The American People in the tens of millions agreed......

In 2016, 2020, & 2024 more than 60 Million+ Americans voted for him in each of those consecutive elections!!!


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Reply #33 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:26pm
 
goosecat wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:19am:
The big 5 main reasons IMHO For The Democrats Loss:
1) Inflation, cost of living
2) Illegal immigration/Border failure
3) Persecuting Trump and making him a Martyr to follow and support against the establishment.
(only works if the target caves or in countries with complete control of the justice system).
4) Hiding Biden's cognitive deficiency and getting caught without enough time to hold an actual candidate competition to select a real, talented, Democrat leader. 
5) Radical leftists gaining too much control.




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Reply #34 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:26pm:
goosecat wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:19am:
The big 5 main reasons IMHO For The Democrats Loss:
1) Inflation, cost of living
2) Illegal immigration/Border failure
3) Persecuting Trump and making him a Martyr to follow and support against the establishment.
(only works if the target caves or in countries with complete control of the justice system).
4) Hiding Biden's cognitive deficiency and getting caught without enough time to hold an actual candidate competition to select a real, talented, Democrat leader. 
5) Radical leftists gaining too much control.




good analysis


SPOT ON!!!
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Reply #35 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:34pm
 
Panther wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:26pm:
President Trump won simply because he consistently had the best & strongest message coupled with the best policies to implement them,that the American People in the tens of millions agreed with......


Er...lowering taxes and raising tariffs -  to MAGA for all Americans - are offensive policies to every mainstream economist in the world, including America.   


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In 2016, 2020, & 2024 more than 60 Million+ Americans voted for him in each of those consecutive elections!!![


Populist policies are always ....popular - but not ncessarily capable of fixing the problems at hand. 
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Reply #36 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 1:04pm
 

First of all, I didn't like either of those two as the candidates.  In a nation of 333+ million, it's simply unbelievable - surely there are many fine upstanding intelligent younger candidates with lots of political experience and who have no red flags where corruption is concerned? 

However those were the two candidates ... and if one side calls the other side "deplorables" and "garbage," guess how the electorate is going to vote! Unlike the woke leftists who were slavering at the thought of a Democrat victory and first "black" female president, it was obvious that middle America was not happy.  The problem is the Democrats didn't learn from their previous "unlosable" loss.

Rudd should be recalled.  All those disparaging remarks he made about Trump on social media are now coming back to bite him painfully on the bum.  He's removed them but the Republicans know what he said and that is simply unacceptable for an ambassador from our country.  Between his and Albaneasy's comments, they are not doing any good for our future relations with the US. 
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #37 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:36am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 11:27am:
But they committed appalling crimes:


https://countersignal.medium.com/how-the-january-6-capitol-riots-were-an-fbi-ent...

Jan 6th FBI entrapment operation.
How the January 6 Capitol Riots Were an FBI Entrapment Operation


Jan 7, 2024

“The FBI had so many paid informants at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021,
that it lost track of the number and had to perform a later audit to determine exactly how
many “Confidential Human Sources” run by different FBI field offices
were present that day, a former assistant director of the bureau has told lawmakers.”


A conspiracy theory website run by fringe lunatics is your source? Way to destroy your credibility!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



The story is based on 54 links at the bottom of the page -
did you check all of them out?
I didn't think so.


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Reply #38 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:16pm
 
Voter ID requirements.
Is it just a coincidence?

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Reply #39 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 4:11pm
 
There were 16 million more democrat votes in 2020

Where did those votes go in 2024?

Was there not enough time to produce fake ballots for 3am drop?

Please explain  Wink
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Re: Why did Trump win?
Reply #40 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 4:19pm
 
Gordon wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:03am:


I've HEARD of homos like this one
Dunno much about them though
But I doubt they're "typical" of US homodudes




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Reply #41 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 5:04pm
 
For my British and European ( and Austealian) friends who are "shocked" and "surprised", here are 10 reasons you didn't see this coming.

Read this short post and then read the replies from our American friends who will confirm what I'm saying.

1. Americans love their country and want it to be the best in the world. America is a nation of people who conquered a continent. They love strength. They love winning. Any leader who appeals to that has an automatic advantage.

2. Unlike Europeans, Americans have not accepted managed decline. They don't have Net Zero here, they believe in producing their own energy and making it as cheap as possible because they know that their prosperity depends on it.

3. Prices for most basic goods in the US have increased rapidly and are sky high. What the official statistics say about inflation and the reality of people's lives are not the same.

4. Unlike you, Americans do not believe in socialism. They believe in meritocracy. They don't care about the super rich being super rich because they know that they live in a country where being super rich is available to anyone with the talent and drive to make it. They don't resent success, they celebrate it.

5. Americans are the most pro-immigration people in the world. Read that again. Seriously, read it again. Americans love an immigrant success story. They want more talented immigrants to come to America. But they refuse to accept people coming illegally. They believe in having a border.

6. Americans are sensitive about racial issues and their country's imperfect history. They believe that those who are disadvantaged by the circumstances of their birth should be given the opportunity to succeed. What they reject, however, is the idea that in order to address the errors of the past new errors must be made. DEI is racist. They know it and they reject it precisely because they are not racist.

7. Americans are the most philosemitic nation on earth. October 7 and the pro-Hamas left's reaction shocked them to their very core because, among other things, they remember what 9/11 was like and they know jihad when they see it.

8. Americans are extremely practical people. They care about what works, not what sounds good. In Europe, we produce great writers and intellectuals. In America they produce (and attract) great engineers, businessmen and investors. Because of this, they care less about Trump's rhetoric than you do and more about his policies than you do.

9. Americans are deeply optimistic people. They hate negativity. The woke view of American history as a series of evils for which they must eternally apologise is utterly abhorrent to them. They believe in moving forward together, not endlessly obsessing about the past.

10. America is a country whose founding story is one of resistance to government overreach. They loathe unnecessary restrictions, regulations and control. They understand that freedom comes with the price of self-reliance and they pay it gladly.
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Reply #42 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 5:07pm
 
The only good thing about 'Uncle Konstantin' sitting us down and telling us about 'Americans' is that he was clothed and not on all fours.

Kon's learned a lot about 'Americans' from all the billionaire bros he follows around like a labrador.

He and Williamson tell a slightly different story when they're talking together.
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Reply #43 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 5:08pm
 
tallowood wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:16pm:
Voter ID requirements.


In Australia, on election day?  None.
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Reply #44 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 5:12pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 5:08pm:
tallowood wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:16pm:
Voter ID requirements.


In Australia, on election day?  None.

Australia has a COMPLETELY different election management system, stinker.

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