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Re: The Podcast Election
Reply #45 - Nov 8^th, 2024 at 9:19pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 7:16pm:

We can have our opinions and disagree as aggressively as we feel we must, but, in a democracy, we must agree that the majority is always right... and that the majority is the torchbearer of the truth.

Something that even Plato, as an anti-democrat, conceded.

If we can't accept that, what's the point of democracy?

What a load of krap.

In 2020, the majority got RIGGED.

WITCH HUNT !!! SO UNFAIR !!!

America is a naughty old republic, dear. That means DL gets to choose.

Read your Aristotle.

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Reply #47 - Nov 8^th, 2024 at 10:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:55pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

and he's still got to balance his party's debts to the Oil industry as you say.

Trump doesn't give two sh!ts about the Republican Party. He didn't even mention them in his victory speech.

Trump has made the GOP his party - a new party - a party for the working class.

By making them pay for the tax cuts to the rich with tariffs?

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Reply #48 - Nov 8^th, 2024 at 10:47pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:52pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

and he's still got to balance his party's debts to the Oil industry as you say.

Trump doesn't give two sh!ts about the Republican Party. He didn't even mention them in his victory speech.

the end of the 2 party system could only be a good thing

as for musk

you have to admire the guys ethics to some extent

the main market for EV s was always well educated democrats

so he was willing to take a hit to do what he saw as the right thing around the trans , ukranian and migrant issues

An important point there: you can't buy Musk or Trump with money. Neither of them is in it for the money. You need something else.
Not so for the "10% for the big guy" syndicate or all the crowd taking the Soros lucre.

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Reply #49 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 7:22am

Earlier this year, Trump was flogging off signed copies of the so-called 'Trump Bible' for USD59.95.

In September, Trump launched his own cryptocurrency venture: World Liberty Financial.

So, we've had Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump alcohol brands... all failures.

Also, this year, there were allegations that Trump received over USD 10 million in hard cash from Egyptian President El-Sisi.

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Reply #50 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 7:54am

Anthony Scarramucci is warning of an imminent Trump fallout with Musk and others:

'Right now, they're in the Halcyon moment with Donald Trump, but they will come to the Hades moment with him. It's just a matter of time because they're not going to be able to do some of the things he wants them to do.

And a lot of these people will not be able to put themselves into these moral pretzels that Donald Trump wants to twist them into.

There is a reason why 40 of us tried to tell the American people what the danger was'.

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Reply #53 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 9:42am

Rogan has spoken numerous times of being pressured to endorse or support in some way, hundreds of products and political points of view over the years.

He has resisted interviewing Trump and says he did so as a favour to Dana White. With Elon Musk, Rogan is overawed by him - something rarely seen with Rogan and his guests. Musk wanted to follow up with Rogan after the Trump interview and, of course, Rogan agreed. Musk then spent most of the interview doing a Trump pump which resulted in Rogan publicly endorsing Trump.

It's certain that Trump, who saw the power of a Rogan interview to the point that he extended his interview time from 1 to 3 hours, will be calling on Rogan again when he wants immediate reach of the American people on a controversial policy.

Rogan proved to be putty the first time around... No reason to think Rogan will challenge Trump during a 2nd or 3rd interview.

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Reply #54 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 12:56pm

rogans best mate dana white would make an excellent president

rogan isnt a political commentator

he is not shapiro or maddow or the view or the 5.

he will put one of his MMA mates or hunting mates on the show.

i dont think anyone could" barge their way" onto his show

he is pretty much untouchable .

i'm sure the next leader of the democrats will be invited on

lets see if they turn up

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Reply #55 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 7:22am:

Earlier this year, Trump was flogging off signed copies of the so-called 'Trump Bible' for USD59.95.

In September, Trump launched his own cryptocurrency venture: World Liberty Financial.

So, we've had Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump alcohol brands... all failures.

Also, this year, there were allegations that Trump received over USD 10 million in hard cash from Egyptian President El-Sisi.

i hear this all the time from the left

"trump is only interested in enriching trump"

the left dont get it.

the left (and many people on this forum) are probably short of cash and so they are in "scarcity"

so they think about cash a lot and think thats what motivates rich people

absolutley incorrect

i'm not rich but i have more then i could ever spend and i virtually never think about cash

once you have enough , it does not motivate you

many rich friends of mine are miserable

they have screaming matches with their partner and kids

they are addicted and weird

cash creates more problems then it fixes (in most cases)

poor people who are in scarcity , might consider this

imagine you are at mcdonalds and a starving guy (say he hasnt eaten in a week) comes in to maccas sits down to talk to you.

he will think , as you are eating in front of him, that food is the massive motivator of your life

he will think you getting fed is all you think about day and night

he will think your lifes purpose is to get that next meal

why?

because the mofo is in food scarcity

but is he right

you probably dont even think about food

it is not even on your radar

you dont design your life around getting more food and storing food and hoarding food and obsessing about where you can get even more food

you simply have food "handled"

rich people have money "handled'

they dont think about it nearly as much as that poor guy who is in scarcity.

it does not motivate them and , if you think that their every move is just to get more cash, you are very out of touch with how the world works

trump, musk , zuckerburg, gates

i bet cash has no effect on their state

power, attention, fame, control ...now thats another matter Wink

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Re: The Podcast Election
Reply #56 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 12:56pm:

i dont think anyone could" barge their way" onto his show

I'm sure Trump won't barge his way onto the show.

As long as their mutual friends, White and Musk, persuade Rogan to have him back on the show, he'll agree.

I noted how excited he was a couple of days ago with the idea of having Trump and Dave Smith together on his show, so he appears to be infatuated with the idea of Trump... for now.

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Re: The Podcast Election
Reply #57 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:08pm:

i hear this all the time from the left

"trump is only interested in enriching trump"

the left dont get it.

the left (and many people on this forum) are probably short of cash and so they are in "scarcity"

so they think about cash a lot and think thats what motivates rich people

absolutley incorrect

i'm not rich but i have more then i could ever spend and i virtually never think about cash

once you have enough , it does not motivate you

many rich friends of mine are miserable

they have screaming matches with their partner and kids

they are addicted and weird

cash creates more problems then it fixes (in most cases)

poor people who are in scarcity , might consider this

imagine you are at mcdonalds and a starving guy (say he hasnt eaten in a week) comes in to maccas sits down to talk to you.

he will think , as you are eating in front of him, that food is the massive motivator of your life

he will think you getting fed is all you think about day and night

he will think your lifes purpose is to get that next meal

why?

because the mofo is in food scarcity

but is he right

you probably dont even think about food

it is not even on your radar

you dont design your life around getting more food and storing food and hoarding food and obsessing about where you can get even more food

you simply have food "handled"

rich people have money "handled'

they dont think about it nearly as much as that poor guy who is in scarcity.

it does not motivate them and , if you think that their every move is just to get more cash, you are very out of touch with how the world works

trump, musk , zuckerburg, gates

i bet cash has no effect on their state

power, attention, fame, control ...now thats another matter Wink

Surely you're not so naive as to think that there are not certain personalities who have no definition of 'enough'?

Rupert Murdoch is one. Donald Trump is another among, no doubt, countless thousands of others, more likely tens of millions.

It's not about hard cash, it's about status and prestige for which some personalities always feel in deficit no matter how much 'cash' they have.

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Re: The Podcast Election
Reply #58 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 6:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 7:22am:

Earlier this year, Trump was flogging off signed copies of the so-called 'Trump Bible' for USD59.95.

In September, Trump launched his own cryptocurrency venture: World Liberty Financial.

So, we've had Trump University, Trump Steaks, Trump alcohol brands... all failures.

Also, this year, there were allegations that Trump received over USD 10 million in hard cash from Egyptian President El-Sisi.

i hear this all the time from the left

"trump is only interested in enriching trump"

the left dont get it.

the left (and many people on this forum) are probably short of cash and so they are in "scarcity"

so they think about cash a lot and think thats what motivates rich people

absolutley incorrect

i'm not rich but i have more then i could ever spend and i virtually never think about cash

once you have enough , it does not motivate you

many rich friends of mine are miserable

they have screaming matches with their partner and kids

they are addicted and weird

cash creates more problems then it fixes (in most cases)

poor people who are in scarcity , might consider this

imagine you are at mcdonalds and a starving guy (say he hasnt eaten in a week) comes in to maccas sits down to talk to you.

he will think , as you are eating in front of him, that food is the massive motivator of your life

he will think you getting fed is all you think about day and night

he will think your lifes purpose is to get that next meal

why?

because the mofo is in food scarcity

but is he right

you probably dont even think about food

it is not even on your radar

you dont design your life around getting more food and storing food and hoarding food and obsessing about where you can get even more food

you simply have food "handled"

rich people have money "handled'

they dont think about it nearly as much as that poor guy who is in scarcity.

it does not motivate them and , if you think that their every move is just to get more cash, you are very out of touch with how the world works

trump, musk , zuckerburg, gates

i bet cash has no effect on their state

power, attention, fame, control ...now thats another matter Wink

And freedom. If DL hadn't won, he'd be doing 20 years in Fort Buttner.

He's not done yet. Four years is an awfully long time not to break any more laws. His Supreme Court ruling only gets him off official presidential duties.

If he orders the Navy Seals to attack Sleepy Joe, he's toast. Again.

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Re: The Podcast Election
Reply #59 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 9:13am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 8:47am:

How long will it be before Joe Rogan starts to express concerns that he is being pressured to promote controversial Trump policies over the coming years, I wonder.

He's already having regets,

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