Was this the podcast election?

The calculations were that if Harris or Trump went on 30 minutes of prime time CNN NBC or ABC every night for 2 months they would not have reached as many people as going once on Rogan

Add in the 100s of millions of views on people like Peterson. Shapiro williamson
Billieau.carlson and triggernometry.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 4:45pm:

No doubt.

There are some cracks in the armour...

Konstantin Kisin is a bit too overawed by Rogan and his latest summary of 'Americans' is a bit of a Yank-arselicking cringefest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlFTLhei7J8

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 4:54pm:

Yep, I think how she mishandled the Rogan interview offer will go down as the defining moment when the power of long-form interview podcasting revealed itself.

And how she mishandled it will become a cautionary tale for all future politicians.

According to Rogan, the Harris team wanted Rogan to come to her - 'neutral territory'. They wanted to limit the interview time to 45 minutes to 1 hour and wanted to restrict the subjects covered.

It was an astounding misunderstanding on her part of how these podcast interviews (particularly Rogan's) have evolved, and exposed the heavily scripted nature of her 'spontaneity'.

To be fair, over 3 hours, Trump was all over the shop and often sounded like a nutjob - significantly worse than nearly every other guest Rogan's ever interviewed - spewing bullshit like the Exorcist girl - but, I think it ultimately elevated his cause - Yankists seem to have a heart for conmen who can gibber on like budgies - almost circular breathing - anyone who's ever watched an L Ron Hubbard interview will get the point.

Vance's time with Rogan (over two and a half hours) was remarkably coherent and did not require an MMA / boxing 30+ minute filler - usually done for the bro street-cred effect.

Vance remained on point, actually explained policy and was able to speak candidly about himself and his life.

The publishing of the memoir of his formative years - A Hillbilly Elegy - has augmented his authenticity and appears to have left little for anyone to 'uncover' about his past.

goosecat wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:

And yet no polls showed a major swing to Trump. None indicated his winning the college and popular vote.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 9:21pm:



Not to mention the 13 Keys to the White House.

What does that tell you about polls and experts?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:24pm:





Well, he MISSED the changes, hasn't he? He missed the Trump victory.
But yeah, he's an expert, so it is worth hearing his finger pointing AFTER he too got it wrong...
You take him seriously for the rest of us, why don't you?

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:42pm:

l'esprit de l'escalier



There's a lot of it about....

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 10:59pm:

Not to you, TDS kids.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:12pm:

Where are you on the diagnostic spectrum?  You are a pseudo-sophisticate, so I am tipping somewhere between anxiety and confusion.

Only sons of the soil and toil, like Sprinty and Sad, are still at denial.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:39pm:

I am sensing pleading, bargaining and desperation.
You are regressing.


Nurse!!!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 11:44pm:

What?? You can't breathe?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1720228231/221#221

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 7^th, 2024 at 4:54pm:


It’s telling that you criticise candidates for dodging tough questions but conveniently overlook Trump’s cancelled interviews, skipped debates, and exclusive appearances on friendly podcasts. But impartiality and a shred of self-awareness seem too much to expect from you, don’t they, Barron?

Your hypocrisy couldn’t be more transparent.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 1:25pm:


Despite being an apparently bleeding heart lefty, I actually listen to the JRE regularly.  There was no question that he was going to support and endorse Trump.

Sanders was able to go on the Podcast all those years ago and actually explain things to Rogan for him to understand, and he did the right thing and supported Burnie.

But he's been indoctrinated into the fringe issues like drag queens, covid and trans rights, he was only every going to back Trump this time around.

Quote:


It was certainly a mistake not to go on these shows.  Theo's podcast would have been good, he's an admitted dumb dumb and while hilarious, he just seems to want to know more about things and beyond the shell, he's actually a genuine guy, despite his success.

It was undoubtedly a misstep not to appear on these shows. Theo’s podcast, for instance, would have been an excellent choice. Though he self-deprecatingly calls himself a “dumb-dumb,” he possesses a genuine curiosity that cuts through his comedic persona. Beneath the humour, he’s a sincere guy, willing to engage meaningfully despite his success.

Rogan used to be the same, but less so in recent times.

Harris and her campaign made numerous mistakes, no single miscalculation cost them the race against Trump. Now, we’re left to hope he’ll seriously engage with the responsibilities of the role and, as he claimed, oppose Project 2025.

However, it’s hard not to suspect that he’ll be more absorbed by the allure of playing king. Policy decisions, anything devoid of a ceremonial signing or photo op, may fail to hold his attention long enough to divert him from his golf course or rally stages.

If he delegates, let’s hope those entrusted will hold to his word. Yet with RFK Jr.’s health agenda already aligning closely with Project 2025, the early indicators are troubling.

i would imagine he has done a deal with musk to make bitcoin the NFT of government .

in exchange for musks support

this is called constructing the win/win

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 2:17pm:

And do a Reagan 'no prior knowledge' speech if it goes tits up, then!

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Trump ain't no new broom... He's a geriatric straw broom - hasn't swept clean in decades.

Musk is the EV guy and Trump went to the people with 'Drill, baby, drill'... Collision course set!

If big pharma offers Trump some kind of cash deal, RFK will be in the trash can.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 3:54pm:

Do you think the oil industry will be folding, or seeing Musk's numbers and raising?

Once Trump's done with being trumped in popularity by the 'brainiac bank' of Musk and Vance, the love will be gone. RFK will become a laughing-stock quick enough - another thing Trump hates - being associated with 'losers'.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

And, of course, Trump will stick by his 180 on this (not!), even if the oil industry schmoozes him in a way Musk can't - his being a genius and autistic.

The EV infrastructure needs to be massively built up for EVs to be the biggest thing... more costly than his big beautiful wall (has he got a border Tsar in mind yet?)... What do you think the oil companies' combined public campaign will be like on that? Trump went to the people promising more jobs in big oil...

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

Trump doesn't give two sh!ts about the Republican Party. He didn't even mention them in his victory speech.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 4:55pm:

Trump will be dispensing with the Republican Party altogether.

He's decided he doesn't need it.

This will be the first collision course between him and Vance.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

Trump's abandoning of the Republican Party won't end the two-party system... But it won't do anything for a three-party system, either.

The pressure will be on Vance with his political best years in front of him to hold the fort for the Republican Party over the next four years...

Well, he broke out of his Appalachian historically pre-destined orbit... Who knows? Maybe he's got it to survive the heat of Trump's wrath when Vance chooses the Party over Trump.

And, well, Trump's an old man... and getting older.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:


Just so. Look at Russia Russia Russia.

They don't have any boring old elections, now do they?

No, Vlad just gets erected, they have some jolly fireworks and it's back to the meatgrinder the next day.

As for Musk, you have to admire the guy's ethics to some extent.

Buy a social media network, campaign for DL and sling a few jackpots at the chodes, who live lives of pure garbage.

Do you know what you are, Aquascoot?

You're virtuous - like Elon. You're out for the common weal, no?

Read your Aristotle.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:



An important point there: you can't buy Musk or Trump with money. Neither of them is in it for the money. You need something else.
Not so for the "10% for the big guy" syndicate or all the crowd taking the Soros lucre.

Anthony Scarramucci is warning of an imminent Trump fallout  with Musk and others:

'Right now, they're in the Halcyon moment with Donald Trump, but they will come to the Hades moment with him. It's just a matter of time because they're not going to be able to do some of the things he wants them to do.

And a lot of these people will not be able to put themselves into these moral pretzels that Donald Trump wants to twist them into.

There is a reason why 40 of us tried to tell the American people what the danger was'.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 8:47am:

In what possible form could such pressure come? Who could pressure him, in what way?

rogans best mate dana white would make an excellent president

rogan isnt a political commentator

he is not shapiro or maddow or the view or the 5.

he will put  one of his MMA mates or hunting mates on the show.

i dont think anyone could" barge their way" onto his show

he is pretty much untouchable .

i'm sure the next leader of the democrats will be invited on

lets see if they turn up

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 12:56pm:

I'm sure Trump won't barge his way onto the show.

As long as their mutual friends, White and Musk, persuade Rogan to have him back on the show, he'll agree.

I noted how excited he was a couple of days ago with the idea of having Trump and Dave Smith together on his show, so he appears to be infatuated with the idea of Trump... for now.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 1:08pm:


And freedom. If DL hadn't won, he'd be doing 20 years in Fort Buttner.

He's not done yet. Four years is an awfully long time not to break any more laws. His Supreme Court ruling only gets him off official presidential duties.

If he orders the Navy Seals to attack Sleepy Joe, he's toast. Again.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 9:13am:



meh

was hilary a unifying force calling 1/2 the population deplorable?
was biden a unifying force calling 1/2 the population garbage?
i give harris a free pass and think she would have been ok
she doesnt have that whack energy that hilary had
i always felt hilary hated people
zero warmth
i liked harris

as for trump
the guy is a bull in a china shop elected by people who want him to be a wrecking ball, not a 'sit around the campfire singing christmas carols"
sometimes you got to wreck a bullshit system to rebuild it


he has a madate and it is a democracy
these calls for softly softly  are about 20 years to late
'no lefties  were interested in giving maga a seat at the table til maga got control of the seating arrangments

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 9:34am:

You two DO realise that you are reading the tea leaves from the HINDUSTAN TIMES, don't you? A paper with a circulation of...er... 800,000 in a country of 1.3 billion.

The Joe Rogan Experience has 16.4 million subscribers. Rogan's personal Instagram account has 18.9 million followers. His podcast attracts an average of 11 million listeners per episode.


Just for perspective.

aquascoot wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 9:33am:


Right, so because Hillary was so bad 8 years ago, even though she was never President, we shouldn't expect more from Trump?

What kind of defeatist loser logic is that..?

And of course, she was right as we saw after Jan 6th.

Frank wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 11:04am:


Rogan said in an episode of his pod,

“He’s got to unite people. He’s got to not attack the left, not attack everybody, let them all talk their s**t, but unite,”

It doesn't matter who reports it Mr BaylonBee, when it's a direct quote from Rogan...

Come on now, keep up.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:25pm:

You did see Meister's  post, didn't you?
He liked the Hindustani 'amid speculations'. You TDS kids have had an awful lot of speculations, all of it laughably wide of the mark  - but what else do you have? Nothing. You divorced reality and common sense a long time ago.  So it's the wild speculations that keep your crestfallen, saddened spirits up just a little.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:31pm:


Just a clarification, he said that on Thursday's episode last week, so after the election results was known.

Again, keep up junior.

I do sub to his podcast but there's others in my list that are a higher priority so I don't listen to every one, but I've been listening for years now.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:



Love a TDS cross talk act.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:53pm:


It's refreshing given the circles I usually keep for work or my close friends and family, that's why I listen to it.

The conspiracy stuff is also a lot of fun.

The comedians he has on are the best episodes though.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 10:23am:


Each to their own I guess.

I guess I've got more of a bro-douche side of myself than I'd like to admit

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 10:28am:

I bet you don't listen to 3 hours of stoned bros broing out!

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

Well, that's a couple of episodes... Still a few hundred others to plough your way through... Have you got enough good years left to get through them?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:

Sure he’s right, only, as you’d know, he’ll turn on a dime with the bros.

Musk has tried to blame the woke left for his signing the papers for his son’s transition, cos y’know, he didn’t really know what he was signing as he’s an average work-a-day stiff, so he’s got it in for them - blaming the left for the ‘death’ of his son… He’ll have Joe bagging the hell out of the left soon enough - no ‘unite, unite, unite’ for Joe once the bros have spoken.

What’s disturbing, or reminiscent of underground newspapers during the counter-culture era of the 60s/70s, is that the so-called new media, the podcasts, are usually run by dumbcunts, grifters and dipshits, recommended by teenagers to their influential parents - as Trump claimed about Rogan being recommended by his son, Barron.

One look at Barron and you can see the hole in his soul with those dead eyes… not much going on there at best… hopefully no evil sh!t is brewing.

Of course, Trump was bullshitting… their mutual friend, Dana White set up the interview and Rogan did it as a favour to White.

Frank wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:24pm:


He said it on the podcast with Rogan...  I heard it myself...

Do you ever tire of being wrong?  He even calls his son his "podcast advisor".

Am I going to have to get another video link for you...?

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 12:07pm:

What is it about these c~nts on a politics forum?

They can't be slutted listening to the interview, then make comments on its contents.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 12:29pm:


Since June 16, 2015, they've learned not to seek out truth but to repeat whatever suits them loudly and persistently, eventually deeming it a “win” once opposition tires.

Frank exemplifies this: he demands proof for claims he dislikes, without checking their basis, then feigns shock when presented with evidence, scrambling for excuses.

"That think you said Trump said, that turns out he DID say, well, It was tongue in cheek..."

Or, he’ll concoct his own “facts”, “It was from a parody account”, with nothing to support it.

It's lazy, both in thought and effort. Small wonder he admires Trump.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 12:07pm:



No you didn't.

In another hilarious and stupidly candid moment with Rogan, Trump ranted about his rambling stream of thought he called 'the weave'.

He'd ranted about it publicly before and told his audience that 'very smart people' had told him how brilliant it was and that it was a skill that very few people could pull off...

It's a testament to how much of a dumbcunt this man really is.

Psychologists would recognise it as something like schizophrenic word salad, while anyone who has hired someone would probably recognise it as a tactic of a prospective to cover for ignorance of the job's skills requirements - just keep talking... the old, 'baffle them with bullshit'.

John Lennon got a kick out of writing nonsense lyrics (his form of 'the weave') and waited for critics and others to try to extract meaning from them.

Lennon's best example of this is the lyrics to 'I am the Walrus'.

The difference between Lennon and Trump is that Lennon actually knew what he was doing and why he was doing it.

Trump can thank god Yankists are also dumbcunts and cheered when the sign to do so lit up.

Frank wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

What did I lose, Danish poof?