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Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:39pm

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

NEW YORK (14 November 2024) – Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices said in a new report released today.

“Since the beginning of the war, Israeli officials have publicly supported policies that strip Palestinians of the very necessities required to sustain life — food, water, and fuel,” the Committee said. “These statements along with the systematic and unlawful interference of humanitarian aid make clear Israel’s intent to instrumentalise life-saving supplies for political and military gains.”

Covering the period from October 2023 to July 2024, the report examines developments across the occupied Palestinian territory and the occupied Syrian Golan but focuses on the catastrophic impact of the current war in Gaza on the rights of Palestinians.

“Through its siege over Gaza, obstruction of humanitarian aid, alongside targeted attacks and killing of civilians and aid workers, despite repeated UN appeals, binding orders from the International Court of Justice and resolutions of the Security Council, Israel is intentionally causing death, starvation and serious injury, using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population,” the Committee said.

cont'd :

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israe...

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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #2 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:08pm

What utter rubbish. There is no Israeli genocide against Gazans - they have caught themselves in a war zone and are suffering the results of doing that. They cheered and danced when Israeli people were murdered, and girls and women raped and beaten to death or butchered... millions of them have availed themselves of the opportunity provided by Israel to evacuate - despite threats and even murders of some seeking to do so, by Hamas itself.

The UN has turned itself into a gutter filled with the whining of every Judeophobe in this world and is licking the nuts of terrorists and mass murderers instead of holding itself high as a fount of human decency, justice and fairness. It has become the lowest of its members ... proof that introducing faecal water into pure water results in every part of that water being polluted.

Time some of these 'members' were sent packing, and time for a full review of what exactly the UN has become.

Then there is the craven approach of AlboCorp and the Wong Way of sucking the nuts of the vilest invaders and mass terrorist murderers in recent history, while criticising the legitimate attempts of a small nation to defend its own people from genocide, and all while lying through their teeth about their idea of a 'Two State Solution' - something Israel has promoted and pursued for years now - with the 'official' line of the UN requiring that Israel essentially capitulate to those who started and continue this war, and cease de-militarisation of the areas that have violated its territory and its people for years.

All that without offering cast iron guarantees of a peaceful and UN controlled de-militarised Gaza and Lebanon Strip held by Hezbollah.

If the Old Girl and I pack up this house and she goes into a care place - I'm off to Israel - me and my li'l friends Mr Springfield and Mr Modernscope. Some hate the M-14 - used properly it is a beaut. Think of a 7.62 NATO round, range out to 2000 yards plus, and a scope equal to or better than the scope sight on the M-4.

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Reply #3 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 10:07pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

What utter rubbish.

There is no Israeli genocide against Gazans -
they have caught themselves in a war zone
and are suffering the results of doing that.

WWW search....

80% of gazans supported oct 7 attack

In December, 2023, "Seventy-two percent of " local Palestinians
"said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel
was "correct" given its outcome so far,"

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Poll shows Palestinians back Oct. 7 attack on Israel,
support for Hamas rises

By Reuters
December 14, 2023

JERUSALEM, Dec 13 (Reuters) - Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct,

and the ensuing Gaza war has lifted support for the Islamist group both there and in the West Bank, a survey from a respected Palestinian polling institute found.

The Palestinian Center for Policy Survey and Research (PCPSR) findings were published as international alarm grows over the spiralling Palestinian civilian toll in the Israeli counter-offensive against Hamas, now in its third month.

Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were undecided or gave no answer.

Hamas, which is sworn to Israel's destruction, has ruled Gaza since splitting with the Palestinian Authority (PA) in 2007. The PA exercises limited governance in the West Bank.

......

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-att...

[the whole article is just a click away.]

IMO, the only reason [the ISLAMIST] Hamas now want a ceasefire,
is to somehow, avoid a total destruction of its own ranks.
.....if they can.

So that they can 'rebuild Gaza' and rearm,
.......and then wait for a future opportunity,
to 'wipe out the Zionist state.'

If HAMAS truly want a cessation of hostilities, in Gaza....
then that is certainly achievable.

But HAMAS must agree,
      1/ to return all of the hostages HAMAS is still holding,
      2/ and agree to lay down their arms, and to end all of their attacks upon Israel.

......or, HAMAS can choose to keep fighting,    .....and bare the responsibility,
for the consequences [upon Gazans],
of their attack upon Israel, on Oct 7, 2023.

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"A war never ends by one side declaring victory, but by one side admitting defeat."

- Ahmad Shah Massoud

Respect.

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"There Can Be No End to Jihad"

- Omar Bakri Muhammad

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1731210971/0#0

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Reply #4 - Nov 16^th, 2024 at 10:20pm

part of a search page return.......

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Polls Show Palestinians Overwhelmingly Support Hamas ...

Reddit · r/geopolitics
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There's also a disparity between stated support for October 7th (71%), support for armed struggle (46%), and the 30% who say they would vote for ...

Palestinian Poll On Support for 10/7 Attacks - Reddit    17 Nov 2023
Palestinians overwhelmingly support October 7th : r/Destiny    16 Nov 2023
Is there any reliable/sourced information of how many ... - Reddit    9 Nov 2023
75% of Palestinians are in favor of the 7th of October ... - Reddit    13 Mar 2024

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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #5 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 9:52am

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:39pm:

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

NEW YORK (14 November 2024) – Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices said in a new report released today.

“Since the beginning of the war, Israeli officials have publicly supported policies that strip Palestinians of the very necessities required to sustain life — food, water, and fuel,” the Committee said. “These statements along with the systematic and unlawful interference of humanitarian aid make clear Israel’s intent to instrumentalise life-saving supplies for political and military gains.”

Covering the period from October 2023 to July 2024, the report examines developments across the occupied Palestinian territory and the occupied Syrian Golan but focuses on the catastrophic impact of the current war in Gaza on the rights of Palestinians.

“Through its siege over Gaza, obstruction of humanitarian aid, alongside targeted attacks and killing of civilians and aid workers, despite repeated UN appeals, binding orders from the International Court of Justice and resolutions of the Security Council, Israel is intentionally causing death, starvation and serious injury, using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population,” the Committee said.

cont'd :

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israe...

Don't murder, rape Jews and you won't get 'genocided'(!) in return.
If you don't want Israel to to HIT BACK HARD, don't start a fight.

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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #6 - Nov 17^th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:39pm:

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

NEW YORK (14 November 2024) – Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices said in a new report released today.

“Since the beginning of the war, Israeli officials have publicly supported policies that strip Palestinians of the very necessities required to sustain life — food, water, and fuel,” the Committee said. “These statements along with the systematic and unlawful interference of humanitarian aid make clear Israel’s intent to instrumentalise life-saving supplies for political and military gains.”

Covering the period from October 2023 to July 2024, the report examines developments across the occupied Palestinian territory and the occupied Syrian Golan but focuses on the catastrophic impact of the current war in Gaza on the rights of Palestinians.

“Through its siege over Gaza, obstruction of humanitarian aid, alongside targeted attacks and killing of civilians and aid workers, despite repeated UN appeals, binding orders from the International Court of Justice and resolutions of the Security Council, Israel is intentionally causing death, starvation and serious injury, using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population,” the Committee said.

cont'd :

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israe...

Don't murder, rape Jews and you won't get 'genocided'(!) in return.
If you don't want Israel to to HIT BACK HARD, don't start a fight.

Really, what do you expect?

If you force people off their land, where they have lived for generation after generation, corral them into a ghetto, humiliate them far worse than apartheid South Africa ever did, bomb them with illegal chemical weapons, weapons which are banned under international law and which no civilized nation would ever dream of using, then of course they're going to rebel.

Wouldn't you?

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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #7 - Nov 18^th, 2024 at 10:33am

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:39pm:

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

NEW YORK (14 November 2024) – Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices said in a new report released today.

“Since the beginning of the war, Israeli officials have publicly supported policies that strip Palestinians of the very necessities required to sustain life — food, water, and fuel,” the Committee said. “These statements along with the systematic and unlawful interference of humanitarian aid make clear Israel’s intent to instrumentalise life-saving supplies for political and military gains.”

Covering the period from October 2023 to July 2024, the report examines developments across the occupied Palestinian territory and the occupied Syrian Golan but focuses on the catastrophic impact of the current war in Gaza on the rights of Palestinians.

“Through its siege over Gaza, obstruction of humanitarian aid, alongside targeted attacks and killing of civilians and aid workers, despite repeated UN appeals, binding orders from the International Court of Justice and resolutions of the Security Council, Israel is intentionally causing death, starvation and serious injury, using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population,” the Committee said.

cont'd :

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israe...

Don't murder, rape Jews and you won't get 'genocided'(!) in return.
If you don't want Israel to to HIT BACK HARD, don't start a fight.

Really, what do you expect?

If you force people off their land, where they have lived for generation after generation, corral them into a ghetto, humiliate them far worse than apartheid South Africa ever did, bomb them with illegal chemical weapons, weapons which are banned under international law and which no civilized nation would ever dream of using, then of course they're going to rebel.

Wouldn't you?

Incontinent hyperbole. Totally over the top.

The West Bank and Gaza together had 14 universities, an open university for distance learning, 18 university colleges and 20 community colleges.
A recent survey conducted in Palestine concluded that the prevalence of overweight and obesity is 23.6 and 19.5% in the Gaza Strip and 26.1% in the West Bank.

Gazans decided to be led and governed by a proscribed international terrorist organisation, Hamas. They chose them freely and stuck with them for almost 20 years. That is like electing ISIS.

Hamas has carried out COUNTLESS suicide and rocket attacks against Israel. They have assassinated countless PALESTINIAN political rivals.
A bunch of chubby, nasty bastards. Hanging's too good for 'em.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 46211 Gender:	Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide' Reply #8 - Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:23pm Do not listen to this. Way too sensible. https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1858602496819867709
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58507 Here Gender:	Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide' Reply #9 - Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:37pm Quote: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide' And they needed a committee to come to that conclusion. You would think that the 60,000 plus dead people would be enough to show that.
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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #10 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 3:42pm

Frank wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 16^th, 2024 at 4:39pm:

UN Special Committee finds Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide, including use of starvation as weapon of war

NEW YORK (14 November 2024) – Israel’s warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, with mass civilian casualties and life-threatening conditions intentionally imposed on Palestinians there, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices said in a new report released today.

“Since the beginning of the war, Israeli officials have publicly supported policies that strip Palestinians of the very necessities required to sustain life — food, water, and fuel,” the Committee said. “These statements along with the systematic and unlawful interference of humanitarian aid make clear Israel’s intent to instrumentalise life-saving supplies for political and military gains.”

Covering the period from October 2023 to July 2024, the report examines developments across the occupied Palestinian territory and the occupied Syrian Golan but focuses on the catastrophic impact of the current war in Gaza on the rights of Palestinians.

“Through its siege over Gaza, obstruction of humanitarian aid, alongside targeted attacks and killing of civilians and aid workers, despite repeated UN appeals, binding orders from the International Court of Justice and resolutions of the Security Council, Israel is intentionally causing death, starvation and serious injury, using starvation as a method of war and inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian population,” the Committee said.

cont'd :

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israe...

Don't murder, rape Jews and you won't get 'genocided'(!) in return.
If you don't want Israel to to HIT BACK HARD, don't start a fight.

Really, what do you expect?

If you force people off their land, where they have lived for generation after generation, corral them into a ghetto, humiliate them far worse than apartheid South Africa ever did, bomb them with illegal chemical weapons, weapons which are banned under international law and which no civilized nation would ever dream of using, then of course they're going to rebel.

Wouldn't you?

Incontinent hyperbole. Totally over the top.

No it isn't. Those are the facts. That is what has happened. Denying that shows how deluded you are.

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The West Bank and Gaza together had 14 universities, an open university for distance learning, 18 university colleges and 20 community colleges.
A recent survey conducted in Palestine concluded that the prevalence of overweight and obesity is 23.6 and 19.5% in the Gaza Strip and 26.1% in the West Bank.

Even if that were so, in no way does it negate or compensate for the continued violation of their basic human right to self-determination.

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Gazans decided to be led and governed by a proscribed international terrorist organisation, Hamas. They chose them freely and stuck with them for almost 20 years. That is like electing ISIS.

Hamas has carried out COUNTLESS suicide and rocket attacks against Israel. They have assassinated countless PALESTINIAN political rivals.
A bunch of chubby, nasty bastards. Hanging's too good for 'em.

Don't forget that Israel played a major part in the creation of Hamas.

And also don't forget that the Palestinian right to resistance, which includes armed struggle, is enshrined in international law:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1714668349

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Reply #11 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 3:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:37pm:

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Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'

And they needed a committee to come to that conclusion. You would think that the 60,000 plus dead people would be enough to show that.

That's a big plus:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1729682185

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Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'
Reply #12 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

wombatwoody wrote on Nov 20^th, 2024 at 3:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:37pm:

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Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide'

And they needed a committee to come to that conclusion. You would think that the 60,000 plus dead people would be enough to show that.

That's a big plus:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1729682185

The killing must end.
It’s totally out of proportion now.
I can only hope Trump finds away

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Very lucid account of how HAMAS conducts asymmetri
Reply #13 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 10:49pm

Very lucid account of how HAMAS is conducting its asymmetrical warfare.

IN THIS SHORT VIDEO.....
Gives a good insight, into >> who << HAMAS is willing to sacrifice,
in its very 'popular' war with Israel [i.e. popular among all devout moslems ***].

asymmetrical warfare = = how a weak force will conduct itself, against a much stronger opponent, in wartime.

Compelling watch --------- >

Military Expert Debunks Gaza "Genocide" - Nick Freitas

09 min
2024-Nov-19 - - 329K views 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AV5jZigPm8

TRIGGERnometry https://www.youtube.com/@triggerpod

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Green Beret Combat Veteran, Nick Freitas joined us on the show.

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Proof [directly from an ISLAMIC source],
as to exactly why the 'Oct 7' incursion into Israel,
and the subsequent war between HAMAS and Israel,
is still, a very popular strategic event, among all devout moslems.

strategic = =
1 forming part of a long-term plan or aim to achieve a specific purpose.
2 relating to the gaining of overall or long-term military advantage.

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Islamic scholar:

Oct. 7 massacre ‘transformed >> our << history,’

‘children should be raised on love of jihad’

Aug 27, 2024

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/08/islamic-scholar-oct-7-massacre-transformed-our-hi...

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84555 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide' Reply #14 - Nov 20^th, 2024 at 11:07pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 7:37pm: Quote: Gaza: Israel's actions 'consistent with genocide' And they needed a committee to come to that conclusion. You would think that the 60,000 plus dead people would be enough to show that. Nowhere near a Genocide ....
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