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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #150 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

Just look at your defence thread -
100s of posts from you with the only source - the ABC. Roll Eyes

You aren't looking very hard, Bobby. Try again. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You're right -
about 1 in 10 is not from the ABC. Roll Eyes

Is that an apology, Bobby? Mmmmm? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian - just feel lucky that someone gave you some feedback. Roll Eyes

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #151 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

Homosexuality is a sin:

Leviticus 20:13 KJV

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

There's nothing in the charges about him liething, Bobbi.

He just "grabbed and squeezed" some penises and butt cheeks.

I think the Bible allows that, as long as the other person gives consent.

KJV is too much for your brain - try the New Living Translation. Roll Eyes

Leviticus 20:13 New Living Translation

“If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman,
both men have committed a detestable act.
They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

He's still in the clear then, as far as the Bible goes.

"having sex with another man as with a woman"

Women don't have penises to grab and squeeze, so what he did wasn't "as with a woman".

However, doing it without the other person's consent is a crime, and that's what this thread is about - alleged crimes, not sexuality or politics.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105300 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Alan Jones arrested Reply #152 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm Hi Greggy, just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation and read it to gain wisdom. namaste
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137774 Gender:	Re: Alan Jones arrested Reply #153 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm: Hi Greggy, just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation and read it to gain wisdom. namaste Who translated it?
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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #154 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:06pm:

Just look at your defence thread -
100s of posts from you with the only source - the ABC. Roll Eyes

You aren't looking very hard, Bobby. Try again. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You're right -
about 1 in 10 is not from the ABC. Roll Eyes

Is that an apology, Bobby? Mmmmm? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian - just feel lucky that someone gave you some feedback. Roll Eyes

Not surprising that you weren't man enough to admit your hypocrisy, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #155 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Hi Greggy,
just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation
and read it to gain wisdom.

namaste

Who translated it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation

The New Living Translation (NLT) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English.
Published in 1996 by Tyndale House Foundation, the NLT was created "by 90 leading Bible scholars."[4]
The NLT relies on recently published critical editions of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.[1]

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #156 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Hi Greggy,
just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation
and read it to gain wisdom.

namaste

Who translated it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation

The New Living Translation (NLT) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English.
Published in 1996 by Tyndale House Foundation, the NLT was created "by 90 leading Bible scholars."[4]
The NLT relies on recently published critical editions of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.[1]

Why did they change the wording?

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #157 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Hi Greggy,
just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation
and read it to gain wisdom.

namaste

Who translated it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation

The New Living Translation (NLT) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English.
Published in 1996 by Tyndale House Foundation, the NLT was created "by 90 leading Bible scholars."[4]
The NLT relies on recently published critical editions of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.[1]

Why did they change the wording?

The King James Version is too hard to understand for most people.
You got it wrong.

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #158 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Hi Greggy,
just get a modern translation of your Bible - try the New Living Translation
and read it to gain wisdom.

namaste

Who translated it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation

The New Living Translation (NLT) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English.
Published in 1996 by Tyndale House Foundation, the NLT was created "by 90 leading Bible scholars."[4]
The NLT relies on recently published critical editions of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.[1]

Why did they change the wording?

The King James Version is too hard to understand for most people.
You got it wrong.

"having sex with another man as with a woman"

When a man has sex with a woman, there's a vagina somewhere in the mix ... isn't there?

Mr. Jones is accused of grabbing and squeezing penises - how is that in any way "as with a woman"?

No Bobbi, if the allegations are true he has broken the law - you can't do those things without consent.

However, he seems to be in the clear as far as the Bible goes, no matter which translation you cherry pick choose.

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #159 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:59pm:

"having sex with another man as with a woman"

When a man has sex with a woman, there's a vagina somewhere in the mix ... isn't there?

Mr. Jones is accused of grabbing and squeezing penises - how is that in any way "as with a woman"?

No Bobbi, if the allegations are true he has broken the law - you can't do those things without consent.

However, he seems to be in the clear as far as the Bible goes, no matter which translation you cherry pick choose.

Alan Jones is accused of sin.

Leviticus 20:13 New Living Translation

“If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman,
both men have committed a detestable act.
They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #160 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:59pm:

"having sex with another man as with a woman"

When a man has sex with a woman, there's a vagina somewhere in the mix ... isn't there?

Mr. Jones is accused of grabbing and squeezing penises - how is that in any way "as with a woman"?

No Bobbi, if the allegations are true he has broken the law - you can't do those things without consent.

However, he seems to be in the clear as far as the Bible goes, no matter which translation you cherry pick choose.

Alan Jones is accused of sin.

He's accused of crimes under Australian law.

As far as the Bible goes, I've shown that he's in the clear.
I've proven you wrong.

Perhaps now would be a good time for you to change the subject Wink

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #161 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

Homosexuality is a sin:

Leviticus 20:13 KJV

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

There's nothing in the charges about him liething, Bobbi.

He just "grabbed and squeezed" some penises and butt cheeks.

I think the Bible allows that, as long as the other person gives consent.

So now they are going to crucify him for acting like every other gay?

Every other gay doesn't do those things without consent.

Some do, sure. Just as some heterosexuals do.

This has nothing to do with Jones being gay, and absolutely nothing to do with him being a far-right propagandist.

It's only about him carrying out sexual acts on other people without their consent.

Don't use his politics and sexual preferences to deflect from his alleged crimes - it makes it look like you're making excuses for him.

You say this, despicable, repulsive turd, without knowing ANYTHING more about these instances than anyone else.

You ARE a repulsive, tendentious, eager propagandist, stinking, unflushable turd.

As always, you rush in with your smear, you despicable creep. Skin crawling, despicable ****ing horror that you are.

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Re: Alan Jones arrested
Reply #162 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:48pm

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 8:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 7:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 6:44pm:

Homosexuality is a sin:

Leviticus 20:13 KJV

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

There's nothing in the charges about him liething, Bobbi.

He just "grabbed and squeezed" some penises and butt cheeks.

I think the Bible allows that, as long as the other person gives consent.

So now they are going to crucify him for acting like every other gay?

Every other gay doesn't do those things without consent.

Some do, sure. Just as some heterosexuals do.

This has nothing to do with Jones being gay, and absolutely nothing to do with him being a far-right propagandist.

It's only about him carrying out sexual acts on other people without their consent.

Don't use his politics and sexual preferences to deflect from his alleged crimes - it makes it look like you're making excuses for him.

You say this, despicable, repulsive turd, without knowing ANYTHING more about these instances than anyone else.

You ARE a repulsive, tendentious, eager propagandist, stinking, unflushable turd.

As always, you rush in with your smear, you despicable creep. Skin crawling, despicable ****ing horror that you are.

Smear?

I've repeatedly used the term "alleged crimes".

I have no idea if he's innocent or guilty, and have not made a judgement one way or the other.

Moreover, I couldn't care less about his sexual preferences.

You, however, seem to be quite the homophobe.

"Pooftah"? Really? Roll Eyes

Maybe now would be a good time to put down the bottle and go to bed.

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