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Reply #45 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 12:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:10am:
Mothra,
you should be thanking all those who supported Trump
as at least we have a better chance of surviving now.
Trump is searching for peace not WW3 with nuclear weapons.

Biden and Putin both want to risk WW3 over 4 little provinces in Ukraine
that no one had heard of 3 years ago.


If Trump bends the knee to Putin and lets Ukraine fall, strengthening Russia, is that a good outcome do you think Bobbi?

If not, how else is he going to resolve that conflict, there by ensuring that won't be a trigger for a world war, on day one?



Let's not speculate.


Then goes on to speculate...

Quote:
Putin might shake in his boots when he has Trump to deal with
instead of sleepy Joe.


And by the way, I wasn't speculating, I was asking you a question on your opinion on Trump letting Russia have Ukraine, is that good or bad?
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Reply #46 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
It’s an “Emperor’s New Clothes” event for America and perhaps for the rest of the West too, an overdue recognition and repudiation of the regime of oppressive insanities we have been subjected to for a decade or more.

The fancy new items of invisible attire that our nation’s rulers have made us wear for too long include these:

The idea that people who have stolen into this country illegally should be showered with all the rights and benefits of citizens, that it is immoral to deny them those rights, and that they should instead be treated as victims of persecution and given “sanctuary” in our crowded and fiscally strained cities.

The idea that a nation that sits atop one of the greatest reservoirs of natural energy resources on Earth should forcibly restrain itself from exploiting them to “save the planet” on the basis of politicised science, while other countries are free to do much more damage to the global environment.

The idea that after a century and a half of progress in expiating America’s original sin of racism and making the country more equal, we are suddenly obliged to believe that America is as oppressive as it was in 1619, and that the best way to right the past wrong of treating people based on the colour of their skin is to treat people based on the colour of their skin.

The idea that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free to choose their “gender,” be assisted by the state in committing acts of self-mutilation to do so, and all on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science and just discovered that there is no such thing as biological sex.

The idea that democracy and freedom are best protected by denying people the right to express certain views that the authorities deem “misinformation” and by weaponising the law against political opponents lest they weaponise the law for political purposes.

Ambitious elites in business and civil society went along with the fictions. Politicians on all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear of being called out. It took a man with some of the instincts of a child, a political ingénue lacking the sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole thing out for what it was.

...

Here’s what I am optimistic about: Four years from now, there’s a good chance that the nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that important things will have become normal again.

It will have become normal to tell people who have no right to be here that they must leave, and that in the process people around the world will have been made to understand that they don’t have an automatic right to live in the freest and most prosperous country on earth.

It will have become normal for the nation to exploit its enormous energy advantages for its own economic benefit and know that the planet won’t explode as a result.

It will have become normal again for children to be helped to respond to the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up not by having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance and care from family and society;

that people will be judged on the basis of their talents and ability, not on their claims of oppression by ancestors six generations in the past, and it will not be automatically assumed that because you are white you should be punished for your supposed persecution of others.

It will have become normal to be able to say what you think — on university campuses, in the media, on technology platforms — however unpalatable some people may find it.

And that, to my mind, is progress.

Gerard Baker in The Wall St Journal


Amen to that.


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Reply #47 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:15pm:
It’s an “Emperor’s New Clothes” event for America and perhaps for the rest of the West too, an overdue recognition and repudiation of the regime of oppressive insanities we have been subjected to for a decade or more.

The fancy new items of invisible attire that our nation’s rulers have made us wear for too long include these:

The idea that people who have stolen into this country illegally should be showered with all the rights and benefits of citizens, that it is immoral to deny them those rights, and that they should instead be treated as victims of persecution and given “sanctuary” in our crowded and fiscally strained cities.

The idea that a nation that sits atop one of the greatest reservoirs of natural energy resources on Earth should forcibly restrain itself from exploiting them to “save the planet” on the basis of politicised science, while other countries are free to do much more damage to the global environment.

The idea that after a century and a half of progress in expiating America’s original sin of racism and making the country more equal, we are suddenly obliged to believe that America is as oppressive as it was in 1619, and that the best way to right the past wrong of treating people based on the colour of their skin is to treat people based on the colour of their skin.

The idea that children should, without parental consultation or consent, be free to choose their “gender,” be assisted by the state in committing acts of self-mutilation to do so, and all on the understanding that we have repealed millennia of science and just discovered that there is no such thing as biological sex.

The idea that democracy and freedom are best protected by denying people the right to express certain views that the authorities deem “misinformation” and by weaponising the law against political opponents lest they weaponise the law for political purposes.

Ambitious elites in business and civil society went along with the fictions. Politicians on all sides, including Republicans, declined to dissent for fear of being called out. It took a man with some of the instincts of a child, a political ingénue lacking the sophistication to participate in the sham, to call the whole thing out for what it was.

...

Here’s what I am optimistic about: Four years from now, there’s a good chance that the nonsense we have had to endure will be buried, that important things will have become normal again.

It will have become normal to tell people who have no right to be here that they must leave, and that in the process people around the world will have been made to understand that they don’t have an automatic right to live in the freest and most prosperous country on earth.

It will have become normal for the nation to exploit its enormous energy advantages for its own economic benefit and know that the planet won’t explode as a result.

It will have become normal again for children to be helped to respond to the inevitable strains and traumas of growing up not by having their genitals cut out, but by receiving loving guidance and care from family and society;

that people will be judged on the basis of their talents and ability, not on their claims of oppression by ancestors six generations in the past, and it will not be automatically assumed that because you are white you should be punished for your supposed persecution of others.

It will have become normal to be able to say what you think — on university campuses, in the media, on technology platforms — however unpalatable some people may find it.

And that, to my mind, is progress.

Gerard Baker in The Wall St Journal


Amen to that.





Yep Trump has no clothes.
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Reply #48 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:53am:
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:48am:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:46am:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 8:13am:
..........  Policies are not important to the weirdos that infest Ozpol any more than they are important to the MAGA crowd. They're all about culture wars and reserving the right to be a exclusionary and bigoted as they like.

What gets me is the massive amounts of Americans who fell for Trump's overt lies.

There's no denying the financial hardship in the US is a direct result of a post Covid world and wider international politics and that Biden has actually done remarkably well steering through it, leaving the next government in a surprisingly good position, considering ... but still, people fell for the lies.

We shall see how Trump does. I for one am hoping for as little damage as possible.


Americas in quite a good position economically
Unemployment at 4.1, inflation about 2.3.

It is a divided nation so bad in that aspect.
trump has promised to gut the government and replace them with trump loyalists, stop medicare and cause accelerated climate damage, give tax cuts to billionaires, oppose unions, increase inflation.
I am sure he will do that

If you are poor or average in america now, tougher times are ahead of you




I hope i'm wrong but i fear that the most disadvantaged Americans will be particularly vulnerable ... and with talk of massive government spending slashes, safety nets for the disadvantaged are always the first thing to go.




World To End Tomorrow: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit





I honestly don't know how to take that post.

A frightening glimpse into Frank's diseased mind?


Cheesy Cheesy

It is an old piss-take on the po-faced NYT and Granuiad and their ilk that fence in your intellectual horizons.


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Reply #49 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:30pm
 
the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment
too many vested interests

too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors
too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma
too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues
too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes
too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre
too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching
too many grifters dividing people in identity politics

the grift is over

trump, a sole private citizen has ended it

alone, with no support from establsihed political interests

despite the lawfare
despite the mainstream media
despite the intelligence agencies
despite big tech
despite assassination attempts

ended the madness

there should be no coming back for leftie lunacy now
the veil has been lifted

they are going to have to get with the program, work hard , drop the fake personas and contribute to society or they can just be ignored and perish .

they either join the winning team or they can piss off to canada
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Reply #50 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same.

Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.
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Reply #51 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:03pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:30pm:
the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment
too many vested interests

too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors
too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma
too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues
too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes
too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre
too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching
too many grifters dividing people in identity politics

the grift is over

trump, a sole private citizen has ended it

alone, with no support from establsihed political interests

This is a political forum, not a Hollywood utopia movie.

The faces change, not the grifting.

One look at the 'new media' podcasters and you're looking into the eyes and souls of a bigger bunch of new grifters you won't find anywhere else in one place.

Rogan sucked cock and blew smoke for 3 hours with Trump... Didn't challenge him on even his craziest bullshit... Not a word on dog eating; didn't press him on the 2020 election, but joined in with Trump on his tirade about Harris and Walz lies.
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Reply #52 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same.

Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.



oh he'll talk tough

but why do anything?

the left will cop the blame

if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump

the border is the gift that keeps giving
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Reply #53 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:03pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:30pm:
the insanity could never have been ended from inside the establsihment
too many vested interests

too many ex generals making a fortune as defence contractors
too many ex FDA staff working for big pharma
too many civil servants on 200 k  working on the homelessness issues
too many doctors and psychologists on the anxious depressed confused malnourished hordes
too may lawyers at the southern poverty law centre
too many teachers getting applause for virtue signalling instead of teaching
too many grifters dividing people in identity politics

the grift is over

trump, a sole private citizen has ended it

alone, with no support from establsihed political interests

This is a political forum, not a Hollywood utopia movie.

The faces change, not the grifting.

One look at the 'new media' podcasters and you're looking into the eyes and souls of a bigger bunch of new grifters you won't find anywhere else in one place.

Rogan sucked cock and blew smoke for 3 hours with Trump... Didn't challenge him on even his craziest bullshit... Not a word on dog eating; didn't press him on the 2020 election, but joined in with Trump on his tirade about Harris and Walz lies.



not so sure

a lot of people on the left THINK getting loads of cash makes you happy

of course it doesnt

i think the left think everything is motivated by cash because they live in cash scarcity

once you are around a lot of rich people and see how miserable they are, yelling at their spouse, kids who hate them, you arent motivated by it anymore

to say trump is motivated by money is thinking about 10 paradigms below what motivates him

same goes for gates, zuck, bezos, musk.

they could have cashed out 50 mill decades ago and gone and sat by the pool.

same goes for most rich people

if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists
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Reply #54 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:35pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same.

Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.



oh he'll talk tough

but why do anything?

the left will cop the blame

if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump

the border is the gift that keeps giving

So he's all bullshit, then.
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Reply #55 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:36pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm:
if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

So you're telling me there's hope!
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Reply #56 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:42pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:36pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm:
if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

So you're telling me there's hope!


Here's hoping. Smiley

However, if I have to read too many more of aquascoot's word salads today I might have to think about slashing my own wrists.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #57 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:45pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:36pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:34pm:
if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

So you're telling me there's hope!


Hundreds of millions of people have their fingers crossed.

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Reply #58 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 2:55pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
so trump can, once agin, lay the blame squarely at the feet of the democrats, and still keep his cheap labor force.

So, he'll be doing no different, then... Not so much MAGA as KATS - Keep America the same.

Everybody knows that they love their slavery... it's admitting it they hate.



oh he'll talk tough

but why do anything?

the left will cop the blame

if an illegal rapes another riley lakin  then the left get the blame, not trump

the border is the gift that keeps giving

So he's all bullshit, then.



jesus christ man


trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

and he is selling to willing customers who want to kill leftie woke ideology

he identified a market and tapped into it

but dont think trump lies in bed at night worrying  about the chodes who vote for him!!

(not that any of the others in politics do Roll Eyes).

Trump sees his customers the way maccas see their customers  or netflix see their customers

does the CEO of maccas lie in bed at night worrying about nutrition ?

they are selling to a willing customer

no moral judgement

just the reality

if the customer is harmed , well he is an "entity with agency" who got what he asked for



if you worked in business and studied dan kennedy, you would know this

the customer is like an animal. the customer is deeply flawed, stuck in the cultural hypnosis, driven by ego and biological drives.  putty in the hands of someone who understands him much better then he understands himself

as a businessman you cant change him

he doesnt want to change !!!!

he loves his pain and he is addicted to his anger or his victim status

if you try to change him he will turn on you

now i find it disgusting but thats the reality

trump as a guy with world class powers of persuasion, saw a market opportunity and pounced

kudos

he is winning the game by the rules of the game itself
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Reply #59 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:45pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:36pm:
[quote author=aquascoot link=1731956731/53#53 date=1731994445]
if trump just became a nobody rich guy playing golf who used to be a "someone" , he would get so low, he'd slash his wrists

So you're telling me there's hope!


Hundreds of millions of people have their fingers crossed.

None more so than a certain Slovenian hooker.

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