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Reply #60 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?
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Reply #61 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?


you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

people hated walking

henry ford saw a market for the automobile

was he a bullshitter?

people hated added up numbers

texas instruments saw an opportunity and marketed the calculator

people hated boring water

coca cola saw an opportunity and marketed coca cola

and on and on


now you could try and market green vegetable juice and it would be better for the animalistic masses then coke ,  but you'd go broke

is it cokes fault the masses want their product?
are they full of poo?

trump in about 2015 saw a growing appetite for "stopping the excesses of leftie nonsense"
he saw disaffected customers being ignored in the flyover states
he saw people who really hated washington
he saw people who hated the mainstream media

he saw "untapped market potential'

thats not bullshit

thats knowing the market
thats understanding your customer

is it trumps fault these customers existed?


i say no

that is the definition of the game of politics

give the customer what he wants

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Reply #62 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:22pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?


you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity


He is entirely a bullshitter...

He makes sh
it
up as he goes and in his business life, would sue people into silence.

In politics, his lies are official record.

He's going to build a wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it...

I mean, do we really need to list the bullshit he's made up on the spot?

What about cutting corporate and higher tax brackets, and making China pay for it via tariffs....

It's all bullshit.

That's not good business, that's good sales.  But when you keep making promises you can't deliver on, your businesses fail.

Oh, wait, that's exactly what happens to Trump, when he can't litigate his way out of trouble.

It's not good business, he's not a good business man, he's a bullshiter who operates outside of the law and exploits all those he works with and doesn't pay his bills.
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Reply #63 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:26pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:22pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?


you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity


He is entirely a bullshitter...

He makes sh
it
up as he goes and in his business life, would sue people into silence.

In politics, his lies are official record.

He's going to build a wall on the southern border and make Mexico pay for it...

I mean, do we really need to list the bullshit he's made up on the spot?

What about cutting corporate and higher tax brackets, and making China pay for it via tariffs....

It's all bullshit.

That's not good business, that's good sales.  But when you keep making promises you can't deliver on, your businesses fail.

Oh, wait, that's exactly what happens to Trump, when he can't litigate his way out of trouble.

It's not good business, he's not a good business man, he's a bullshiter who operates outside of the law and exploits all those he works with and doesn't pay his bills.


So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( Tongue) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!!


Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!?


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Reply #64 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:26pm:
So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( Tongue) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!!


Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!?




They did, and when his bullshit comes to light, AGAIN, if the people aren't just in it for the lulz and care about the country even a little, they'll punish Trump and the Republican party at the mid terms.
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Reply #65 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:43pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?


you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

Smarter guys than you walked down that road to moral and ethical hell...

Like Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of 'The Art of the Deal' when he framed Trump's bullshit as 'truthful hyperbole'.

He paid the price when he was shunned by his friends as a fraud.

He came to regret writing 'The Art of the Deal', saying he 'put lipstick on a pig'.

Got a porker you'd like to f~ck in the back paddock of that farm of yours? Smear a bit of the wife's lippy on it... And Bob's your... whatever Bob is these days.

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Reply #66 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:46pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:33pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:26pm:
So the people who elected Slick Willy twice, Dubya twice, Obama twice and Biden once ( Tongue) have been taken in by total b.s. AGAIN!!!


Oy gevalt! When will it end!?!?




They did, and when his bullshit comes to light, AGAIN, if the people aren't just in it for the lulz and care about the country even a little, they'll punish Trump and the Republican party at the mid terms.

Comes to light???   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

The Dems and Big Media have been saying it for 8+ years!! They impeached him, sued him, smeared him, rubbished him for 8 years! What do you think is still hidden from  and unknown to the Dems, the media and the electorate?


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Reply #67 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:14pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:13pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 4:00pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
trump is a salesman

he is the best salesman i have ever seen

So he's the biggest bullshitter you've ever seen, then.

Would you sell your produce to your local market using the same style of bullshit?

Just a lick of paint and sell it as a new one?


you miss the point

he's not a bullshitter so much as a business guy who saw an opportunity

Smarter guys than you walked down that road to moral and ethical hell...

Like Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter of 'The Art of the Deal' when he framed Trump's bullshit as 'truthful hyperbole'.

He paid the price when he was shunned by his friends as a fraud.

He came to regret writing 'The Art of the Deal', saying he 'put lipstick on a pig'.

Got a porker you'd like to f~ck in the back paddock of that farm of yours? Smear a bit of the wife's lippy on it... And Bob's your... whatever Bob is these days.




hey dude

i market the green vegetable juice
the grass fed beef
the aspirational self help
the nuanced products

because i recognised very early rich people dont own possessions, their possessions own them

but skippy says trump is not a good businessman , he's a good salesman

i know the difference

the unthinking masses (95% of the population ) think sales IS business.

is that trumps fault?
maybe the masses need to ascend the narrow road to success and learn a thing or two  Wink

of course they wont because

they dont want to change

thats why they are SO easy to market to
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Reply #68 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:14pm:
i market the green vegetable juice
the grass fed beef
the aspirational self help
the nuanced products

So you market quality products you believe in, then... Not just stuff you might get away with if you pitch it right to chodes.
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Reply #69 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:47pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:14pm:
i market the green vegetable juice
the grass fed beef
the aspirational self help
the nuanced products

So you market quality products you believe in, then... Not just stuff you might get away with if you pitch it right to chodes.



correct

but no politician can market niche products

you HAVE to be like maccas because the masses are beaten down .stuck in the cultural hypnosis .
they are driven by fear and outrage and anger and the other emotions they are addicted to

you cant reach them with an aspirational message

i like kamalas message

JOY

but that aint where the people are at.


its why i didnt mind the woman.
but she is selling the green vegetable juice and trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola.

and she got the nuanced vote

you have to understand your market

getting out of leftie echo chambers would have helped her
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Reply #70 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:14pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:47pm:
trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola.

So, while you sell quality products you can be proud of, the guy who can peddle sh!t to the masses that causes diabetes and other systemic health issues is your kinda politician, then.
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Reply #71 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 5:47pm:
trump is selling the super stimulating, super entertaining , let the good times role, coca cola.

So, while you sell quality products you can be proud of, the guy who can peddle sh!t to the masses that causes diabetes and other systemic health issues is your kinda politician, then.



exactly

to me
winning is about many things after money
the guy with money might own a dozen houses
he goes away on holiday and his tenants call because the roof is leaking and he spends his holiday emailing repairmen
i see it happen
the possessions "own' them

i like very simple things and could never spend what i earn


so i consider myself winning in life because my businesses and my families businesses provide real quality services to people  amd people just literally give you cash and its embarrassing how much the law of attraction and the halo effect work for you when you arent a needy little taker


now in the field of politics
winning is about selling what the masses want to buy
it is a popularity contest
this is surely definitional
so i like my politicians to play the game they signed up to play
win the popularity contest
and trump is the GOAT so i admire the way he plays the game the way i admire the way jordan plays basketball or Brady plays NFL .
politics is nothing more then a game in my eyes
about as important as basketball or the NFL

people will have rich meaningful lives based on the ammount of "personal resonsibility" and "agency" they are willing to take for themselves

the idea that the quality and trajectory of your life is somehow the responsibility of a politician is a poisonous concept to me
and anyone who wants a father or mother figure to solve their problems for them is beneath contempt.
if you want to remain a perpetual infant and have a daddy figure to guide you, you are truly lost

its is very freudian, very dom/sub. very oedipal

we saw it with covid

do you know what i thought when i saw how the population submitted to the authority figures over a runny nose?

i thought they were the ultimate subs

"govern me harder daddy, govern me harder"

thats how i pictured most of the population Smiley

no wonder its so easy to dominate them when they are eternal infants  Smiley
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Reply #72 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm:
now in the field of politics
winning is about selling what the masses want to buy

So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then.
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Reply #73 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:25pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm:
now in the field of politics
winning is about selling what the masses want to buy

So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then.



dude

you do know what a democracy is ?

its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves

if not, how would YOU define it ?
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Reply #74 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:30pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:18pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 7:13pm:
now in the field of politics
winning is about selling what the masses want to buy

So, if it sells, it's about bullshit all the way down, then.



dude

you do know what a democracy is ?

its a popularity contest where the contestants sell themselves

if not, how would YOU define it ?

Then call a pig a pig.

Call bullshit for what it is...

Why call it masterful salesmanship or 'truthful hyperbole'?
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