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Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:28am
 
The explosion of youth crime is going to be a key factor in the downfall of the Victorian government at the next election.

‘Get him off our streets’: Fury as 14yo who had ‘388 charges’ dropped due to his age is released on bail

The release of a 14-year-old who has had close to 400 charges dropped because of his age has sparked outrage, amid Victoria’s youth crime wave.

A teenager who has been “causing terror” has been released on bail again, despite having previously had close to 400 charges dropped because of his young age, sparking outrage over the state government’s handling of Victoria’s youth crime wave.

Speaking on 3AW on Friday morning, radio host Mark Allen slammed the government after a 14-year-old, who allegedly broke into a northern suburbs garage housing luxury cars, was granted bail by a children’s court magistrate.

He has had 388 struck off due to his age.

The magistrate told the teenager he was “causing terror in the community” and the state should be “appalled” by his alleged offending, before he was released on bail yet again.

“You’re also destroying your own life because you can’t have any good future living this life,” the magistrate said.

The youth previously had his hundreds of charges struck out due to the doli incapax rule, which states a child under 14 should not be held criminally responsible unless it is proven that they knew their actions were morally wrong.

In a bail application on Thursday, police alleged the boy entered the home with two others and filmed the group walking around two luxury cars.

However, the teenager’s defence lawyer said it was “impossible to prove” the 14-year-old took the footage.

GPS tracking had allegedly pinged the teenager’s phone to the address during the time of the offending, the court heard.

CCTV footage also showed the boy allegedly leaving the property wearing the same clothes he was seen to be wearing in a selfie which was found on his phone.

“There is no doubt in my mind to say he did enter the house,” the magistrate said.

He is yet to plead on the new charges.

A court heard earlier this month the same teenager was involved in an incident in Melbourne’s southeastern suburbs, whereby a group smashed into liquor and lotto stores.

After the group gained access to the store, the teenager, who has spent more than 100 days in youth detention, allegedly drove two stolen cars in a high-speed chase involving police helicopters.

The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted.

He was released on bail to residential care ahead of his sentencing at a later date.

The magistrates wanted him to “try something different”.

Victoria’s youth crime wave


It comes as alarming new figures have shed light on child and youth crime in Victoria.

The concerning figures released by the Crime Statistics Agency, showed crimes committed by children aged 10 to 17 rose to their highest levels since 2010.

The data also found children are increasingly involved in more serious and violent offences, such as robberies, aggravated burglaries, and car thefts.

Children aged 10 to 13 years old were responsible for 84 aggravated burglaries across the state. Five years earlier they were only involved in 18.

35 per cent of child offenders are repeat offenders who commit two or more offences.

In a statement, Victoria Plice said targeting the state’s worst child and youth offenders was a “top priority”, with over 2,700 arrests made in the past year as part youth focused operations, Operation Alliance and Operation Trinity.

“Sustained efforts are also made to connect young offenders with appropriate support services to break their continued cycle of reoffending,” police said.

“For lower-level offenders, police are offering cautions when appropriate to limit their involvement in the youth justice system.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/get-him-off-our-streets-fury-as-14yo-who-...
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:41am
 
Abo?

African?
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Boris wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:41am:
Abo?

African?


I'm guessing African.

"The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted."


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Bring back the birch and the stocks.
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2024 at 12:11pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 12:08pm:
Boris wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:41am:
Abo?

African?


I'm guessing African.

"The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted."





Sudanese?
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Reply #5 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 3:51pm
 
I'd say probably Somalian.  And musso. 

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Reply #6 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:27pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 12:08pm:
Boris wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 11:41am:
Abo?

African?


I'm guessing African.

"The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted."


Hard to find stats re race, but in the US:

https://www.juvjustice.org/blog/1436

Throughout the United States, youth of color are overrepresented at every stage of the juvenile justice system. In 2019, according to the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP), American Indian youth were 1.5 times more likely, and Black youth were 2.4 times more likely to be arrested than White youths. In Washington, D.C. alone, Black youth are 11 times more likely to be incarcerated than White youth. The racial inequities are glaring, and there is a growing body of research to suggest that incarceration and court involvement are harmful to young people. Reducing overall involvement with the youth justice system is essential to eliminating racial and ethnic inequities and providing the best possible outcome for all youth.
....

But of course this research ignores the elephant in the room: entrenched poverty among low income groups, on which even Trump commented, in 2016: "You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison..."

Hence the nice-sounding words about "reducing overall involvement with the  youth justice system"  - but how, exactly?
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Reply #7 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:45pm
 
Melbadishu - capital city of Some Aliens...

As the undeclared Race War heats up with all this handing over under duress and 'treaty negotiations' - all one way .... and the perception that indeed power comes from the barrel of a threat or a whine and then all fools will follow like lemmings .... begin to become the order of the day - this will only increase until The People put a stop to it...

That will require the next government, since the fall of Labor is inevitable across Australia over this madness... even if many dare not discuss it openly for fear of vile retaliation and being attacked with harsh language (did-ums)  ..... to put all such things to Their People for a final solution.

I'm prepared to say that given a vote on THIS phase of the Voices By Stealth ........ the people's vote NO will rise.
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Reply #8 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:55pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:45pm:
Melbadishu - capital city of Some Aliens...

As the undeclared Race War heats up with all this handing over under duress and 'treaty negotiations' - all one way .... and the perception that indeed power comes from the barrel of a threat or a whine and then all fools will follow like lemmings .... begin to become the order of the day - this will only increase until The People put a stop to it...

That will require the next government, since the fall of Labor is inevitable across Australia over this madness... even if many dare not discuss it openly for fear of vile retaliation and being attacked with harsh language (did-ums)  ..... to put all such things to Their People for a final solution.

I'm prepared to say that given a vote on THIS phase of the Voices By Stealth ........ the people's vote NO will rise.


Er - you forgot not all youth crime is confined to blacks.

Which is why you - lacking understanding of complex socio-economic interconnections - will never be able to close the gap.
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Reply #9 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 7:53pm
 
The day the rich Melbourne Gays from the East, infiltrated Sydney and started the Mardi Gras.
Was the day the poor Sydney rednecks from the west, turned up in Melbourne for their Riots.

Gays & Rednecks. They just can't leave each other alone.
Men touching other men for a fight and a f%×#
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Jasin wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 7:53pm:
The day the rich Melbourne Gays from the East, infiltrated Sydney and started the Mardi Gras.
Was the day the poor Sydney rednecks from the west, turned up in Melbourne for their Riots.

Gays & Rednecks. They just can't leave each other alone.
Men touching other men for a fight and a f%×#



I can't be the only one on this forum that recognizes this as the blatherings of an insane man, can i?

This is simply gibberish.

Much like everything from Jasin.

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Reply #11 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 7:52am
 
Yes you are Mothra.
You are very much alone.
We know you are the smartest of the troll pack from the Troll Cave PA. Mother Mothra rules her monkey boys with a banana down her knickers.
But your intelligence is often misplaced, presented as crumbs and 95.75% 'left' of the marker.

I'm just a poor uneducated, unskilled, unqualified, unemployable, unmarriageble, living in the bush with a small car for a bed, physically and mentally disabled mixed race guy who just happens to be more right than you for some reason and that in itself is the miracle of me and the doom of you.
Must be embarrassing for you and the Trolls that someone like me, always gets the better of you lot. Now that's saying something. Wink

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Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:28am:
The explosion of youth crime is going to be a key factor in the downfall of the Victorian government at the next election.

‘Get him off our streets’: Fury as 14yo who had ‘388 charges’ dropped due to his age is released on bail

The release of a 14-year-old who has had close to 400 charges dropped because of his age has sparked outrage, amid Victoria’s youth crime wave.

A teenager who has been “causing terror” has been released on bail again, despite having previously had close to 400 charges dropped because of his young age, sparking outrage over the state government’s handling of Victoria’s youth crime wave.

Speaking on 3AW on Friday morning, radio host Mark Allen slammed the government after a 14-year-old, who allegedly broke into a northern suburbs garage housing luxury cars, was granted bail by a children’s court magistrate.

He has had 388 struck off due to his age.

The magistrate told the teenager he was “causing terror in the community” and the state should be “appalled” by his alleged offending, before he was released on bail yet again.

“You’re also destroying your own life because you can’t have any good future living this life,” the magistrate said.

The youth previously had his hundreds of charges struck out due to the doli incapax rule, which states a child under 14 should not be held criminally responsible unless it is proven that they knew their actions were morally wrong.

In a bail application on Thursday, police alleged the boy entered the home with two others and filmed the group walking around two luxury cars.

However, the teenager’s defence lawyer said it was “impossible to prove” the 14-year-old took the footage.

GPS tracking had allegedly pinged the teenager’s phone to the address during the time of the offending, the court heard.

CCTV footage also showed the boy allegedly leaving the property wearing the same clothes he was seen to be wearing in a selfie which was found on his phone.

“There is no doubt in my mind to say he did enter the house,” the magistrate said.

He is yet to plead on the new charges.

A court heard earlier this month the same teenager was involved in an incident in Melbourne’s southeastern suburbs, whereby a group smashed into liquor and lotto stores.

After the group gained access to the store, the teenager, who has spent more than 100 days in youth detention, allegedly drove two stolen cars in a high-speed chase involving police helicopters.

The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted.

He was released on bail to residential care ahead of his sentencing at a later date.

The magistrates wanted him to “try something different”.

Victoria’s youth crime wave


It comes as alarming new figures have shed light on child and youth crime in Victoria.

The concerning figures released by the Crime Statistics Agency, showed crimes committed by children aged 10 to 17 rose to their highest levels since 2010.

The data also found children are increasingly involved in more serious and violent offences, such as robberies, aggravated burglaries, and car thefts.

Children aged 10 to 13 years old were responsible for 84 aggravated burglaries across the state. Five years earlier they were only involved in 18.

35 per cent of child offenders are repeat offenders who commit two or more offences.

In a statement, Victoria Plice said targeting the state’s worst child and youth offenders was a “top priority”, with over 2,700 arrests made in the past year as part youth focused operations, Operation Alliance and Operation Trinity.

“Sustained efforts are also made to connect young offenders with appropriate support services to break their continued cycle of reoffending,” police said.

“For lower-level offenders, police are offering cautions when appropriate to limit their involvement in the youth justice system.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/get-him-off-our-streets-fury-as-14yo-who-...



Happens in all Labor states ......

The NT has kicked Labor to the kerb

QLD has kicked Labor to the kerb

Victoria & Sth Australia need to kick Labor to the kerb

Youth/Juvenile crime is a big election issue nationally...

Labor has done SFA except turn the Youth Justice systems in each state and territory into revolving doors.

Consequences for actions.
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Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 19th, 2024 at 9:28am:
The explosion of youth crime is going to be a key factor in the downfall of the Victorian government at the next election.

‘Get him off our streets’: Fury as 14yo who had ‘388 charges’ dropped due to his age is released on bail

The release of a 14-year-old who has had close to 400 charges dropped because of his age has sparked outrage, amid Victoria’s youth crime wave.

A teenager who has been “causing terror” has been released on bail again, despite having previously had close to 400 charges dropped because of his young age, sparking outrage over the state government’s handling of Victoria’s youth crime wave.

Speaking on 3AW on Friday morning, radio host Mark Allen slammed the government after a 14-year-old, who allegedly broke into a northern suburbs garage housing luxury cars, was granted bail by a children’s court magistrate.

He has had 388 struck off due to his age.

The magistrate told the teenager he was “causing terror in the community” and the state should be “appalled” by his alleged offending, before he was released on bail yet again.

“You’re also destroying your own life because you can’t have any good future living this life,” the magistrate said.

The youth previously had his hundreds of charges struck out due to the doli incapax rule, which states a child under 14 should not be held criminally responsible unless it is proven that they knew their actions were morally wrong.

In a bail application on Thursday, police alleged the boy entered the home with two others and filmed the group walking around two luxury cars.

However, the teenager’s defence lawyer said it was “impossible to prove” the 14-year-old took the footage.

GPS tracking had allegedly pinged the teenager’s phone to the address during the time of the offending, the court heard.

CCTV footage also showed the boy allegedly leaving the property wearing the same clothes he was seen to be wearing in a selfie which was found on his phone.

“There is no doubt in my mind to say he did enter the house,” the magistrate said.

He is yet to plead on the new charges.

A court heard earlier this month the same teenager was involved in an incident in Melbourne’s southeastern suburbs, whereby a group smashed into liquor and lotto stores.

After the group gained access to the store, the teenager, who has spent more than 100 days in youth detention, allegedly drove two stolen cars in a high-speed chase involving police helicopters.

The court heard on Thursday the teenager, was on a refugee visa, which would be cancelled if he were convicted.

He was released on bail to residential care ahead of his sentencing at a later date.

The magistrates wanted him to “try something different”.

Victoria’s youth crime wave


It comes as alarming new figures have shed light on child and youth crime in Victoria.

The concerning figures released by the Crime Statistics Agency, showed crimes committed by children aged 10 to 17 rose to their highest levels since 2010.

The data also found children are increasingly involved in more serious and violent offences, such as robberies, aggravated burglaries, and car thefts.

Children aged 10 to 13 years old were responsible for 84 aggravated burglaries across the state. Five years earlier they were only involved in 18.

35 per cent of child offenders are repeat offenders who commit two or more offences.

In a statement, Victoria Plice said targeting the state’s worst child and youth offenders was a “top priority”, with over 2,700 arrests made in the past year as part youth focused operations, Operation Alliance and Operation Trinity.

“Sustained efforts are also made to connect young offenders with appropriate support services to break their continued cycle of reoffending,” police said.

“For lower-level offenders, police are offering cautions when appropriate to limit their involvement in the youth justice system.”

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/get-him-off-our-streets-fury-as-14yo-who-...



Happens in all Labor states ......

The NT has kicked Labor to the kerb

QLD has kicked Labor to the kerb


So...when can we expect to see "results" from the new Lib governments? (ie lower youth crime, and closing the gap?

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Reply #14 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:59pm
 
Well they can't be Australian kids. There's hardly any domestic population growth under Gay ALP Left.
Must be all the foreign immigrant kids brought in by the non-breeding Gay ALP Left. They love the influx of mass Muslims, Indians and Yellows as their violent criminal rednecks
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