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Re: How a process of truth-telling
Reply #15 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:22am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:25pm:
I'm merely amused at the childish attempts never-ending to turn the victim narrative


Allow me to halt you right there.

You claim to understand what a victim narrative is, yet remain astonishingly oblivious to your own incessant whining about being the supposed casualty of some imagined "Aboriginal supremacy" agenda. The sheer absurdity of twisting discussions on any and every Indigenous matter that makes the news, be it tourism or the investigation of Indigenous deaths in custody into "evidence" of your paranoid delusion is breathtaking.

It's as though you’re determined to embody the very hypocrisy you seem so eager to accuse others of.


Thanks for the laugh.  When did I ever take the position of being the prime target of Aboriginal Supremacism... any personal position of victimhood?  All I've done is address the real issues ... your attempt to say I'm playing the victim is pure nonsense and a sign of your desperation over now being on the wrong side of history etc, and clearly unable to see your forest for your trees.

Trying to turn the victim narrative around and say those discussing it and seeking answers are 'victims' is silly... but you already know that - you're just desperate.

Now open your mind, stop being hidebound and paranoid about discussion, and try finding some answers for the Aborigines - REAL answers.  Isolating them by exclusion zones, for example, is not going to stop 'remote community' violence and such... only keep it out of the public eye until the victims manage to stagger into town for help.

If they so earnestly want to 'do things their way' - give them a Homeland - The Park - where they can do so to their heart's content and nobody else needs to even bother any more.

Darwin Has Fallen ....
Brisbane Has Fallen....
soon the rest will Fall .......

7.30 on ABC last night..... first he tried to kill her remote - she was taken into town and into protection..... he got out and found her ... killed her on a beach.....

So much for your pharken exclusion zones and isolating remote communities under their own total control without any 'intervention' - 'doing things their way' -  there is something badly wrong with your minds, you lot who support this madness.

Give 'em a homeland and forget about them...... best way is the Two State Solution ....
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Reply #16 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
I am getting sick of posturing blondes.


https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104357050


It again begs the question about how she rids herself of her dominant white ancestry to be solely Aboriginal i.e. her people?

Her people are in both camps - more so white - so instead of embracing all her ancestry she chooses(like thousands of other white Aboriginals) to deny it.

She would have been raised as culturally Aboriginal as myself........ it's all the rage you know? 


I'm sorry, because she's an advocate for part of her heritage she's betraying the other part?

Seriously dude, that way is some seriously messed up precedent.
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Reply #17 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:15am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
I am getting sick of posturing blondes.


https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104357050


It again begs the question about how she rids herself of her dominant white ancestry to be solely Aboriginal i.e. her people?

Her people are in both camps - more so white - so instead of embracing all her ancestry she chooses(like thousands of other white Aboriginals) to deny it.

She would have been raised as culturally Aboriginal as myself........ it's all the rage you know? 


I'm sorry, because she's an advocate for part of her heritage she's betraying the other part?

Seriously dude, that way is some seriously messed up precedent.



Which part is her Aboriginal heritage?  None on display..... is this... like ... a matter of 'identifying'? 

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Reply #18 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:21am
 
Point it out to us... which part?  We need a test for Aboriginality here - if you dont have over 50% - forget it.  Which 1% is hers?
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Reply #19 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:25am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
I am getting sick of posturing blondes.


https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104357050


It again begs the question about how she rids herself of her dominant white ancestry to be solely Aboriginal i.e. her people?

Her people are in both camps - more so white - so instead of embracing all her ancestry she chooses(like thousands of other white Aboriginals) to deny it.

She would have been raised as culturally Aboriginal as myself........ it's all the rage you know? 


I'm sorry, because she's an advocate for part of her heritage she's betraying the other part?

Seriously dude, that way is some seriously messed up precedent.


Seriously Bint, does she do anything else but advocate for the smaller part? It doesn't seem that she does because it's all about her Aboriginal ancestry & perceived injustices to "her people".

Now which people are they again?

You seem to have a problem understanding what she means by "her people"? .... deliberate?

Just like your Lydia Thorpe , denies her mixed heritage  and rails against all things white.
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Reply #20 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:30am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
I am getting sick of posturing blondes.


https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104357050


It again begs the question about how she rids herself of her dominant white ancestry to be solely Aboriginal i.e. her people?

Her people are in both camps - more so white - so instead of embracing all her ancestry she chooses(like thousands of other white Aboriginals) to deny it.

She would have been raised as culturally Aboriginal as myself........ it's all the rage you know? 


I'm sorry, because she's an advocate for part of her heritage she's betraying the other part?

Seriously dude, that way is some seriously messed up precedent.


Seriously Bint, does she do anything else but advocate for the smaller part? It doesn't seem that she does because it's all about her Aboriginal ancestry & perceived injustices to "her people".




How do you know that?
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Reply #21 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:31am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:30am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:05am:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:49pm:
I am getting sick of posturing blondes.


https://amp.abc.net.au/article/104357050


It again begs the question about how she rids herself of her dominant white ancestry to be solely Aboriginal i.e. her people?

Her people are in both camps - more so white - so instead of embracing all her ancestry she chooses(like thousands of other white Aboriginals) to deny it.

She would have been raised as culturally Aboriginal as myself........ it's all the rage you know? 


I'm sorry, because she's an advocate for part of her heritage she's betraying the other part?

Seriously dude, that way is some seriously messed up precedent.


Seriously Bint, does she do anything else but advocate for the smaller part? It doesn't seem that she does because it's all about her Aboriginal ancestry & perceived injustices to "her people".




How do you know that?



Well - the article says so..... it's a great thing this advocating for your 1% .... look how desperate things are for the average Tasmanian Aboriginal...... about as desperate as it is for every Tasmanian.... what's to advocate for?  They've got homes, jobs, all that on a very equal basis..... hardly even noticed until they decided to become 'activist' and claim Aboriginality over everything else... what do they need to be advocated for?  Repossession of the ancient lands?

That Tasmanian Tiger ain't gonna hunt...
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Reply #22 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:33am
 
Bet she never 'lived the life' in any way....  WTF is she on about?

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

With Swedish and Danish ancestry - do I claim to be a Swede or a Dane?  It's just a part of the makeup of what I am NOW - my 10% Jewish doesn't make me a Jew .... I don't identify... I've never lived the life ... I'm not accepted by one of the Twelve Tribes...

Some people really need to grow up and find a better path for their valour .... they can't be teenage rebels all their lives and pick and choose the latest available revolt to side with ...  if this girlie didn't claim a tiny percentage of Oppressed Aborigine she'd be fighting for trans rights or supporting Islamist murderers or something or claiming the US caused Russia to invade Ukraine.... jumping up and down in the streets and crying about how celebrating Christmas and wishing good cheer for all worldwide is somehow an attack of poor widdle Gazans who cheered when innocent Jewish girls were raped and beaten to death and dragged on the filthy street behind a motor bike......

Why doesn't she just find a real job?    Grin  Grin  Grin Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #23 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:56am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:33am:
Bet she never 'lived the life' in any way....  WTF is she on about?

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

With Swedish and Danish ancestry - do I claim to be a Swede or a Dane?  It's just a part of the makeup of what I am NOW - my 10% Jewish doesn't make me a Jew .... I don't identify... I've never lived the life ... I'm not accepted by one of the Twelve Tribes...

Some people really need to grow up and find a better path for their valour .... they can't be teenage rebels all their lives and pick and choose the latest available revolt to side with ...  if this girlie didn't claim a tiny percentage of Oppressed Aborigine she'd be fighting for trans rights or supporting Islamist murderers or something or claiming the US caused Russia to invade Ukraine.... jumping up and down in the streets and crying about how celebrating Christmas and wishing good cheer for all worldwide is somehow an attack of poor widdle Gazans who cheered when innocent Jewish girls were raped and beaten to death and dragged on the filthy street behind a motor bike......

Why doesn't she just find a real job?    Grin  Grin  Grin Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Well, she's a disadvantaged Aboriginal lawyer and a sovereign palawa woman, whose people Australia did not have a treaty with.
That IS the job!

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Reply #24 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 11:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:56am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:33am:
Bet she never 'lived the life' in any way....  WTF is she on about?

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

With Swedish and Danish ancestry - do I claim to be a Swede or a Dane?  It's just a part of the makeup of what I am NOW - my 10% Jewish doesn't make me a Jew .... I don't identify... I've never lived the life ... I'm not accepted by one of the Twelve Tribes...

Some people really need to grow up and find a better path for their valour .... they can't be teenage rebels all their lives and pick and choose the latest available revolt to side with ...  if this girlie didn't claim a tiny percentage of Oppressed Aborigine she'd be fighting for trans rights or supporting Islamist murderers or something or claiming the US caused Russia to invade Ukraine.... jumping up and down in the streets and crying about how celebrating Christmas and wishing good cheer for all worldwide is somehow an attack of poor widdle Gazans who cheered when innocent Jewish girls were raped and beaten to death and dragged on the filthy street behind a motor bike......

Why doesn't she just find a real job?    Grin  Grin  Grin Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Well, she's a disadvantaged Aboriginal lawyer and a sovereign palawa woman, whose people Australia did not have a treaty with.
That IS the job!



Well then - I trust TasGuv and/or FedGuv are paying her a livable salary to promote her disadvantaged minority heritage !!      Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin     Cry
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Reply #25 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:25am
 
There's a breakout of truth telling.



Defending authentic heritage


A proposal by seven federal Coalition MPs for all cultural heritage claims to be examined independently and forensically for factual accuracy should be adopted for the sake of Indigenous people, their economic opportunities, and cutting unnecessary green and red tape across the nation.

The Arapiles Declaration, made in the wake of the row over rock-climbing bans at Mt Arapiles in Victoria, was led by Nationals MP Anne Webster, the federal member for Mallee, and signed by her leader David Littleproud, opposition Indigenous Australians spokeswoman Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, senators Bridget McKenzie and Jonno Duniam, and MPs Dan Tehan and Michael McCormack.

The declaration comes after cultural heritage bans at Mt Arapiles cost Parks Victoria chief executive Matthew Jackson his job and forced an independent review into the organisation’s failures and future. For five years, John Ferguson reports, Parks Victoria oversaw a secretive process that destroyed Victoria’s reputation as an international rock-climbing destination and pitted Indigenous people against climbers.

The initiative is also timely after several other problems have erupted over the issue of cultural heritage. The taxpayer-funded Environmental Defenders Office has been ordered to pay gas company Santos more than $9m over the EDO’s failed attempt to stop the offshore Barossa gas project 260km north of Darwin. Green activists fabricating dreaming stories to suit their own agendas was deeply insulting to Aboriginal people, as Senator Nampijinpa Price said.
And mining company Regis Resources will take federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek to the Federal Court over her decision to heritage-list part of the $1bn Blayney goldmine site near Orange in NSW on the advice of a rebel Indigenous group. The Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council did not object to the project. But one of the minister’s reasons for blocking the tailings dam site was the blue-banded bee dreaming, raised last December in a ­submission by a member of the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal ­Corporation.

Signatories to the Arapiles Declaration also have cited closures at Mt Warning in northern NSW and at Uluru and restrictions to Lake Eyre in South Australia as examples of where the system requires tightening or analysis. Issues of cultural heritage are too important to be compromised by sloppy, ideologically driven processes and green agendas.

That’s why Anthony Albanese was right to overrule a deal between Ms Plibersek and the Greens to establish an environmental watchdog that would have included a climate trigger. Further opportunities for activists to abuse processes to stymie developments for no good reason are the last thing communities need.
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Reply #26 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:31am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
When did I ever take the position of being the prime target of Aboriginal Supremacism.



Shocked Shocked Shocked

Only just about every single time an Aboriginal is even mentioned
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Reply #27 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:43am
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 11:31am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:12am:
When did I ever take the position of being the prime target of Aboriginal Supremacism.



Shocked Shocked Shocked

Only just about every single time an Aboriginal is even mentioned


Nah - Aboriginal Supremacism isn't a personal issue - it is all-pervading.  Reading below it is coming to  a screeching halt even as we speak... the Tides have turned, bucko .....you are on the wrong side of History ...  Black Supremacism is going down... Transgenderism is going down ... Musso luvving is going down .... hating Jewish Australians is going down ... hating Israel is going down ..... Darwin Has Fallen!  Brisbane Has Fallen! .... and down goes all thereafter ..... all the sheila driven 'social science' approaches - as someone said in comments on mainstream coupla days ago - have failed.... All Have Fallen!  And those nasty criminal kids are about to feel the lash .....

I see Albo - that cunning statesman who put 'the voice' madness to the people to start this counter-revolution - has also slapped down the Slow Vakian Tanya with her silliness.. typical Slow Vak ... they don't have the same kind of thought processes we do here.... it's a typical sort of blonde Slav thing... bring on the blue striped bee ...

Jesus Christ - the money we pay to dopey politicians and such .... set up with riches for life in return for rump-holing the country and its people - Tent Cities you know.....

Bring On The Revolution!!
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Reply #28 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:17am
 
In other crock of shite news:


Opposition resources spokeswoman Susan McDonald, who as a federal parliamentarian applied for and received access to the court documents, said the revelations “confirmed the murky and dishonest world of activist lawfare enveloping the university sector”.

Senator McDonald ramped up pressure on the EDO to “reveal the extent of its foreign backers and funding trail” and said the ­Albanese government should commission an audit and immediately cease providing grants to the environmental legal centre.

“These documents are like an X-ray. They reveal the dark and murky world of how extreme green activism is dishonestly using and abusing Indigenous Australians and their heritage; and how complacent the university sector is allowing themselves to be used for that purpose,” Senator McDonald said.

“This is not about identifying and respecting cultural heritage; it is now about inventing cultural heritage to achieve a political ­outcome, and to stymie economic development and jobs in Australia’s resources sector.

“Nothing could be more dis­respectful to Indigenous Australians than taking them for a ride and fabricating and misrepresenting their cultural history.”

The Barossa case was the first in a series of high-profile recent matters involving the citing of ­cultural songlines in the blocking of major projects.

Months after the initial injunction halting work on the Santos project, Woodside Energy was forced to stop seismic work at its $16.5bn Scarborough gas project off the West Australian coast after Indigenous activist group Save Our Songlines successfully secured an injunction from the Federal Court.

The group had argued that the seismic blasting could interfere with songlines connected to whales and turtles in the area.

But that injunction proved short-lived, with Woodside securing fresh approvals allowing it to go ahead with the work just two months later.

More recently, Regis Resources’ plans to develop the $1bn McPhillamys goldmine near ­Blayney in central NSW were thrown into turmoil after Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek blocked plans for a tailings dam.

Her decision came after a breakaway Indigenous group ­argued that the dam could interfere with the songlines of the blue-banded bee. The Orange Land Council – the main body representing traditional owners of the region – has disputed the validity of that claim.

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In September, The Australian reported that the EDO had offered to pay Santos’s costs over its failed bid to block the Barossa LNG ­development, which if ­accepted would have absolved the legal ­environment group from providing communications it had with possible backers of the court action.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/inside-lawfare-plot-to-b...

So who is funding all this lawfare?

The Enviromental Defenders Office’s foreign funders are undermining Australia’s economyThe Environmental Defenders Office is using foreign funding to harm Australia’s economy, undermine Indigenous communities, and pursue controversial green agendas.

The most disturbing source of funds for the EDO that is publicly known about are the funds that come from the Australian government itself under Labor, who are fully aware of the EDOs behaviour.

Beholden to radical green factions, Labor are funding activist litigation against the government’s own regulators. They have funded the distortion and abuse of the sacred Indigenous connection to country. They are funding an organisation whose anti-fossil fuel ideological ends have seen them engage in unsavoury means, including misrepresenting Indigenous culture, increasing Australians’ energy costs, destroying Australian jobs, supporting those who trespass onto company executive’s private homes (it is reported the EDO provides legal support to an activist accused of doing so), and putting workers’ safety needlessly in danger as they wait in boats out at sea amid hazardous conditions caused by deliberate legal delays brought by the EDO.

Labor was supposed to choose the side of our jobs, our economy, and our Indigenous people. Instead, they have chosen to join sides with fringe green factions in support of a foreign- funded agenda aimed at hurting our country and our people.
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Reply #29 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 5:55pm
 
Truth telling is all lies
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