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Reply #15 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:08pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:00pm:
That sounds extreme, Serial.....

I'm not arguing for anything but the protection of children from vile influences - and decent parents can see to that.... or my mooted approach of having every social media access device purchased by an adult and with all restrictions in place already, and ONLY a clearly identified adult able to remove blocks.... though I wonder if even some of those should be allowed access.

Rocky (not you) - take a break - your mind is wandering a bit this weekend.


In the circles i move in - full digital ID was talked about at least 5 years ago - and coming to Australia..

They always use a “plan” to shame you into going along with it..

This time its the children… if you don’t agree with it then “its your fault” little johnny killed himself…

Same as the “Misinformation/Disinformation bill that just failed - talked about 5+ years ago and that Australia would try to push it through..

And here we are… the Conspiracy theorist 100% right..

Then if the full digital ID gets up - Social Credit System and also Personal Carbon Footprint whereby they’ll restrict what you eat…

Hell… they talk about it at the UN and WEF meetings.. they are literally TELLING you its going to happen..

And then when i repeat it here - folks say - oh - thats a bit extreme..

Like WTF?

They are literally telling us what their plans are
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Reply #16 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:15pm
 
We’re developing an Individual Carbon Footprint Tracker

What you are eating, How much you are eating, how far you are travelling, WHERE you are travelling

World Economic Forum

https://x.com/efenigson/status/1752958348037959984?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hsv2j5ag

Total Privacy Lost, Total Freedoms Lost, what you eat, where you travel, who you talk to, what you say

They’ll know it all - “we’ll be your sole source of information” - go outside of the government narrative and you’ll be in jail quicker than you can blink
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Reply #17 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:17pm
 
Keep relevant links coming - I can't cover every issue - need a 'cabinet' to do that.
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Reply #18 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:20pm
 
Jacinda Ardern - "We will continue to be your single source of truth"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENEUktOrQV8
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Reply #19 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 12:01pm
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 3:52pm:
This is albos book of the year for children - Sick  Angry

He also recommends giving tax payer funded puberty blockers to minors who want them.. 

https://x.com/celinevmachine_/status/1856576762697920783?s=61&t=pr9sQbfDnRXI42Hs...


OMG Shocked

Too much information in overload!!!
Is this for very young ones? It looks like a sick plot to sexualise them.
Those of us that have reared kids know fully well how a 9 -10 year old was happy to receive PJ sparkles doll… not a book on sex!
What’s wrong with Albo???!!! I thought he would’ve had better morals than to okay this book.
Why on God’s earth do kids need to grow up too fast?
For whose pleasure?
And believe me… once they get into their teen years parents know what day it is!
Any wonder there are those groups/cults that dress old fashioned and ban tv/radio etc.

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Reply #20 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 7:38am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 3:40pm:
Since when does a Government put itself between the Parents and THEIR children?



since always
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Reply #21 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 7:38am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 3:40pm:
Since when does a Government put itself between the Parents and THEIR children?



since always


Yeah, and we see people advocate for that on these forums all the time.
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Reply #22 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:21pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 3:15pm:
Now let's just see if any of the idjits here can actually engage in serious discussion over a serious issue that impacts on young lives in so many ways


That's just dripping with good faith isn't it...

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I just love it when you read a thousand word dialogue about how bad I am at discussing fairly - from someone who claims to discuss fairly.... those kinds are clearly products of the modern education system and also of social media impacting on their fragile minds....

Come on in, Monkey Gang.... you can't seriously discuss Aboriginal issues without lapsing into barbarism of insult and personal attack and (ooooh) attacks with harsh language..... (LMAO)  ... what have to contribute other than your personal misguided bile?


You've just described your own behaviour.

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Plenty of real meat here to preserve the mental state of kids.......

Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


I'd certainly like to give it a try because it's a very important issue and there many layers to it from the harm it can do to children and their development to the tools being suggested to help deal with it.

This issue is profound and multifaceted, defying the simplicity of one-liners. While risking accusations of long-winded puffery, I will attempt a genuine, good-faith discussion, even with you, Grap, despite the missteps in your original post.

As someone from the last generation to grow up without the omnipresence of social media, I can’t truly fathom what kids experience today. Their brains are still developing while navigating a world of constant connectivity, a landscape I was fortunate to avoid during my formative years.

I take issue with the term cyberbullying. It’s just bullying. The platform doesn’t redefine the act, but in a hyper-connected world, it does make it inescapable. It used to be that home offered refuge, at least until the next school day. Now, even at the dinner table (in households where tech is permitted), children may endure the relentless drip of abuse via their devices.

This, to me, is more of a bullying issue than a tech issue. The connected world is here to stay, be it social media, messaging apps, or plain old SMS. Targeting just one platform won’t solve the broader problem. Focusing solely on the medium misses the mark.  That is assuming of course, that bullying is the only concern with social media, which I don't believe that to be true.

For me, the larger issue with social media affecting all ages, but especially children, is its deliberate design to maximise engagement. It feeds users a tailored, endless stream of content engineered to capture attention, manipulate emotions, and drive interaction. Even as adults, many of us lack defences against these mechanisms. For children, whose neural pathways are still forming, the risks are amplified.

These platforms shape perceptions, reinforce biases, and peddle misinformation. Worse, they tie dopamine rewards to notifications, fostering compulsive behaviour and training the brain to seek constant digital affirmation. This has lifelong implications.

I support school bans on devices, but as with so many well-intentioned plans, implementation has not been perfect. The truth is, I don’t believe social media is appropriate for children or even young teens. The risks far outweigh the rewards. When adults routinely fail to navigate the sea of misinformation online, how can we expect kids to fare better?

So, what about solutions?

Age restrictions on social media platforms are one approach, but enforcing them without creating a privacy nightmare is a monumental challenge. How do we verify someone’s age without exposing everyone else’s identity? And if restrictions are imposed on the big platforms like X, Instagram, and Facebook, should they also extend to messaging services like WhatsApp, Telegram, or even internet forums?

The problem is undeniable, but implementing solutions risks creating new and potentially larger issues. I wish I had a definitive answer, but I’m not sure there even is one. What we do know is that ignoring the problem isn’t an option, it demands thoughtful, collective action.
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Reply #23 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:09pm
 
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Australians won’t have to hand over ID when using social media, communications minister vows


Michelle Rowland tells Labor party room platforms like Meta, TikTok, Snapchat, Reddit and X cannot compel people to submit personal documents

Australians will not be compelled to hand over personal identification – such as a driver licence or passport – to big tech companies as part of the government’s world-first under-16s social media ban, the communications minister, Michelle Rowland, has pledged.

Several Coalition members have raised alarm about the privacy implications of the bill, with concerns over whether platforms such as Facebook or TikTok would require personal documents to verify a user’s age.

Guardian Australia understands some Labor MPs had also internally raised concerns about privacy and identification issues in the bill, which the government is resolved to ram through parliament by Thursday after less than a week of a hasty Senate inquiry.

In a bid to quell concern from both sides of the aisle, Rowland told Labor’s party room meeting on Tuesday that a regulated entity – a list of designated platforms to include Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Reddit and X – would not be able to compel people to hand over their ID to maintain access to their profile.

The opposition leader, Peter Dutton, gave a similar update to the Coalition party room.

An opposition spokesperson said Dutton had told his MPs that the Coalition had negotiated “concessions” on the reform, including an amendment to the legislation that would ensure no compulsion for people to hand over any form of government ID to social media platforms to verify their age. That’s understood to include driver licences and passports.

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That's at least a little reassuring, although we still need far more detail, both in terms of the medical and expert advice as to why this bans should be put in place, and how they intend it to be enforced.
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Reply #24 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:15pm
 
As I said here...

Setanta wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:32pm:
Let the parents control access. They buy the phone. Set up multiple accounts. One for the parent, one for the kid the phone is for. The kid's profile can have any access the parent allows.

For EG, a Galaxy tablet..

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Although you trust your friend, you may not want them accessing all the apps on your tablet. Set up a restricted user and grant access only to the apps and features you are comfortable with.

1 From Settings, tap Accounts and backup.
2 Tap Users.
3 Tap Add user or profile, and then tap User (restricted profile).
4 You must set up a screen lock in order to create a restricted user. If prompted, tap Set up screen lock.
5 Select the apps you want to allow and which will be restricted.
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS10003303/


You can do this sort of thing on Android or IOS devices.

Make the parents take responsibility for their kids!


No need for gov interference.
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Reply #25 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:53pm
 
When they use the words, child, kids, children, youth, etc.
They forget that a 19 year old 'teenager' is still the same teenager as a 13 year old.

And yet we allow these kids, these children to have sex legally at 16, to buy alcohol at 18, to drive on the roads, vote and many more - all as 'children'.

We should ban Adults from making such decisions for kids.
For if, as kids, they are deemed old enough for such things. Then it is for the kids to decide on yet another: social media restrictions.

That's right. 18 & 19 year old teenagers are still 'kids' and not young 'adults' as Book Publishers like to market and cash in on.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #26 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:15am
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:53pm:
We should ban Adults from making such decisions for kids.
For if, as kids, they are deemed old enough for such things. Then it is for the kids to decide on yet another: social media restrictions.

That's right. 18 & 19 year old teenagers are still 'kids' and not young 'adults' as Book Publishers like to market and cash in on.


They set a clear line in the sand as 16.

I don't see the confusion here.

Unless, if adults shouldn't be making decisions for kids, we should set up some sort of representation body for children to give advice to Parliament?
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Reply #27 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:22am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:15am:
Jasin wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:53pm:
We should ban Adults from making such decisions for kids.
For if, as kids, they are deemed old enough for such things. Then it is for the kids to decide on yet another: social media restrictions.

That's right. 18 & 19 year old teenagers are still 'kids' and not young 'adults' as Book Publishers like to market and cash in on.


They set a clear line in the sand as 16.

I don't see the confusion here.

Unless, if adults shouldn't be making decisions for kids, we should set up some sort of representation body for children to give advice to Parliament?



Jesus!  Be careful!  You might be waking up!!  Extension:-  if adults shouldn't be making decisions for Aborigines, we should set up some sort of representation body for Aborigines to give advice to Parliament?  What about Muslims?  Chinese?  Indians?  White Australians?  Finns?

"They forget that a 19 year old 'teenager' is still the same teenager as a 13 year old."

Are you seriously saying that the 19 yo is the same as the 13 yo?  Could've fooled me.  I suppose a 19 yo could identify as a 13 yo to escape legal responsibilities or something.... get sent to juvie instead of The Big House...

The only comparison is they are still a 'teen' ....  Roll Eyes  there is a huge difference between 13 and 19 ...   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:58am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:22am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:15am:
Jasin wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:53pm:
We should ban Adults from making such decisions for kids.
For if, as kids, they are deemed old enough for such things. Then it is for the kids to decide on yet another: social media restrictions.

That's right. 18 & 19 year old teenagers are still 'kids' and not young 'adults' as Book Publishers like to market and cash in on.


They set a clear line in the sand as 16.

I don't see the confusion here.

Unless, if adults shouldn't be making decisions for kids, we should set up some sort of representation body for children to give advice to Parliament?



Jesus!  Be careful!  You might be waking up!!  Extension:-  if adults shouldn't be making decisions for Aborigines, we should set up some sort of representation body for Aborigines to give advice to Parliament?  What about Muslims?  Chinese?  Indians?  White Australians?  Finns?

"They forget that a 19 year old 'teenager' is still the same teenager as a 13 year old."

Are you seriously saying that the 19 yo is the same as the 13 yo?  Could've fooled me.  I suppose a 19 yo could identify as a 13 yo to escape legal responsibilities or something.... get sent to juvie instead of The Big House...

The only comparison is they are still a 'teen' ....  Roll Eyes  there is a huge difference between 13 and 19 ...   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


Who mentioned Indigenous Australians?

It's telling that your obsession with this topic keeps dragging every conversation into the quagmire of your own victimhood complex. Newsflash: not everything revolves around your perpetual grievance narrative.

The Government’s proposed plan is crystal clear: the age was 16. There’s no ambiguity, no room for spin. Anyone muddying the waters by inventing alternative age ranges is fabricating a straw man and debating their own delusions.

Why is it seemingly impossible to engage in a straightforward discussion without the usual suspects hijacking it with irrelevant tangents?

So much for good faith huh Crappler...
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Reply #29 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:59am
 
So you think pregnant, intoxicated, car accidents, etc is ok for kids (-20 years of age) is ok?
We're living longer, maturing slower. Don't you think a mature line should be at 20 years of age?
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