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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41932	Mayala country traditional owners celebrate Nov 24^th, 2024 at 10:41am Mayala country traditional owners celebrate new Indigenous Protected Area in WA
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Reply #1 - Nov 24^th, 2024 at 11:17am

WHEN are they going to start closing it off in conjunction with their allies in government positions? Policies of exclusion and division and supremacism you know - that will one day create a terrible rift in this nation...... there are countless ways of protecting natural heritage for ALL - this will be, as always, the beginning and not the end of the troubles.

Here are some harbingers of the storms:-

" home to narbalek, rock wallabies, turtles, dugongs and whales that live largely uninterrupted by visitors."

"would ensure young Mayala people in particular could visit and stay connected to country and culture."

"a ranger program that will be managed by Kimberley Land Council and will be primarily be guided by the IPA management plan."

So this is a 'voice' - what it means is that encroachment will begin and continue until there is nothing left for anyone but a few wanderers to visit - nobody else will have any rights. Clearly this current government is a disaster and is great at using weasel words. who will be making the rules these rangers enforce? It says so right there.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29658 Gender:	Re: Mayala country traditional owners celebrate Reply #2 - Nov 24^th, 2024 at 1:36pm That's a vast area filled with mining, pearling, tourism, fishing industries. I bet they will all be in for a bigger slug to operate in that country or certain places will be closed off .... like the Horizontal Falls. Hey cockwomble Bwyan got anything constructive to add to why you posted that link?
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Reply #3 - Nov 24^th, 2024 at 6:39pm

Does anyone else remember the time they closed off climbing Uluru to tourists? Notice how the violence in Alice Springs and nearby townships escalated? Could it be because tourists are no longer allowed to climb the monolith, tourists are avoiding paying the entry fee to go into the national park?

When there is a sharp decline in tourism dollars, the work starts to dry up. Vendors move out of the area. Then the local indigenous folk start to wonder how they are going to make money, since the Northern Territory won't hand over the money that the local indigenous tribes are owed for being aboriginal.

Oh, you can almost guarantee with the tourists avoiding the area, crime rates shot up significantly in "A-town" (Alice Springs) and the residents there have had to deal with the antisocial attitudes of the blow-ins.

I saw a similar thing happen in 1998. Whilst my army buddies were dealing with training for peacekeeping efforts in East Timor, I was at home wondering why there were all these extra indigenous people crowding the streets. The story is that the LNP government was cutting indigenous funding back to typical welfare levels that (I had yet to enjoy), there was an exodus of indigenous soldiers who were in Cairns, Townsville and Darwin, getting prepped for the next year's likely vote for East Timorese independence. You can imagine the hierarchial problems that having no security in indigenous townships would cause from a lack of funding and being expected to earn a living.

I could imagine that the protected areas that Gnads mentions has something to do with mining, pearling, fishing and other tourist issues being put on hold for a while, as the spiritual elements of the GimmeDahCash tribes dictate not harming the rainbow serpent (or some shhtuff like that). When the "white racists" give up trying to earn a living in that remote region of the country, you will see financial failure and a general sense of short-sightedness being actualised by the indigenous residents.

Or they might actually make a good go of the industries and do some good.

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Re: Mayala country traditional owners celebrate
Reply #4 - Nov 24^th, 2024 at 8:18pm

Interesting that the fictional story about an Aboriginal cattle run up there (Kazaly) was all about how they 'faced racism' and struggled to get by etc because of the evil Wharte man (again) - when the actual story of cattle stations and other businesses BOUGHT for them is that those failed due to poor management.

This kind of propaganda story fits in with that other madness about the sheila on the run from juvie and the trail of bodies etc...

At some time they're just going to have to get with the program .......... or they could continue to demand their own way, their own State, their own sovereignty - leading inexorably to a Two State Solution... they can't and won't live here in peace and contribute and participate other than on their own terms - whatever that means at any given moment.... so a Two State Solution is inevitable.

Grapplerdamus says so.....

Some of the stinkweeds here scream 'racism' and all the other guff about such an idea... but the fact is that some of the 'activists' have demanded their own State and 'sovereignty' and so forth and refuse to accept being part of 'The Wharte Man's Way' - so why not give them their own State to self-fund? No citizenship or rights here - they can get a visa... add to that the very real WAR some are engaging in - look at Alice Springs and the way neither the 'parents' nor the 'elders' do one thing to stop the war on whartey via theft and destruction and lawlessness and violence leading to fear etc - and it becomes clear that many Aborigines are CHOOSING to be a type of Gazan here.... and so a Two State Solution is the only real one long term.

Everything else has been tried..... offer them a homeland ... nobody is going to force them to move there and relinquish their citizenship UNLESS they are professional troublemakers and will then be deported/exiled to Homeland (The Park)... those who WANT to be Australian and get along, given all the opportunities laid at their feet etc - can do so....

I like the state of West Malaria ... Mornington Island could become the Gondwanamo Bay facility for the REAL bad guys.... be worth a few packets of Tim Tams that idea....

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Reply #5 - Nov 25^th, 2024 at 10:47pm

I swear that "GrapMap" looks similar to the one I did in year 10 high school. Same regions. We just had to label the areas with what we thought the area should be renamed.

By the way, whoever wrote the numbered labels has a similar penmanship style that I had, 15 years ago. Even the fine point writing pen was similar to what I used back then. I reverted back to blue ink bic biro some years later. But, I did have a thing for using black fine point pens to do my essays/reports.

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Re: Mayala country traditional owners celebrate
Reply #6 - Nov 25^th, 2024 at 10:54pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

I swear that "GrapMap" looks similar to the one I did in year 10 high school. Same regions. We just had to label the areas with what we thought the area should be renamed.

By the way, whoever wrote the numbered labels has a similar penmanship style that I had, 15 years ago. Even the fine point writing pen was similar to what I used back then. I reverted back to blue ink bic biro some years later. But, I did have a thing for using black fine point pens to do my essays/reports.

The New States follow existing LGA lines - colours were done with pencil on a table with a little roughness - which shows the dots. I don't claim to be an artist - just a very radical thinker...

Queensland is too big - it is unwieldy - its 'capital' is too far from where the people live in many different ways.... hardly representative.... I merely feel those people will benefit more from a government more like themselves than a majority city slicker government.... carpet baggers and such ... West Malaria/Homeland is a great spot - Bourke and Wills didn't make the coast there - filthy mangrove swamps and nasty critters and also has some inland dry ... Mosquito Coast 2.0 .... Homeland was going to be Cape Yorke, but they want to build a spaceport there .. watching them big birds roar will keep them Melanesians under control and away from the Chinese...

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25008 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Mayala country traditional owners celebrate Reply #7 - Nov 25^th, 2024 at 11:03pm There was a social media post that asked Qlder where the capital of North Queensland state should be located. Southeast Qld seems to be too much like NSW these days.
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Re: Mayala country traditional owners celebrate
Reply #8 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:52am

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 25^th, 2024 at 11:03pm:

There was a social media post that asked Qlder where the capital of North Queensland state should be located. Southeast Qld seems to be too much like NSW these days.

I cannot tell a lie - I filched that map from your stored away secret school records! The fingers of Aussad can get in anywhere they want...

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