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Reply #45 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:22am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:38am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:05am:

It's interesting you say that, which I've highlighted. Yes, he swept the electoral college. However, when you look at individual votes, Trump only won by about 2 million votes, which is a difference between him and Harris of only 1.6% overall. So his win isn't really that big in terms of the popular vote, making it actually a very close election, and again the win comes down to the electoral college.

That'll console the Democrats in coffee houses, NOT!

A win that big is a win that big.

There's no qualifying it now such that it will make any difference to the Trump Administration's sense of mandate to enact its projects in their entirety.

Except the win isn't as big as you're making it out to be. He barely beat Harris with less than 2% in it in the end. Hardly a big win.

True.

And he didn't receive 50% of the vote.

Hardly a landslide, and not really a mandate.

You're making a wanker out of yourself.

What does not really a mandate mean? (Even Grammarly doesn't like the term!).

If your team wins by one point but didn't dominate every minute of the game, did they not really win?

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

i'll pass that on to trump
i'm sure he'll give your opinion the attention it deserves

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Reply #46 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, nor Albo, Starmer or anyone in power in a liberal democracy, not even in compulsory voting jurisdictions like Australia.

But for some reason you never doubted Biden's or Obama's mandate. Why is that?
Because you are a slippery, dishonest creep.

As you were.

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Reply #47 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:37pm

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, nor Albo, Starmer or anyone in power in a liberal democracy, not even in compulsory voting jurisdictions like Australia.

But for some reason you never doubted Biden's or Obama's mandate. Why is that?
Because you are a slippery, dishonest creep.

As you were.

When did I say Obama and Biden had a mandate?

I'm curious.

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Reply #48 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm

Frank wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

By that reckoning, slippery unflushable, Biden and Obama didn't have a mandate, ...

In 2020, Biden won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.3% - voted for Biden.

In 2012, Obama won the popular vote.

He also won the electoral college.

And, the majority of voters - 51.1% - voted for Obama.

What are the chances of you getting something right today?

I'm curious.

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Reply #49 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election, whatever it is, and trust in the institutions that safeguard it.

The New York Times and the Huff Post et al would have had us believe Harris was ready to govern. Was she? The people didn't think so.

What you and all Australians should be focussed on is what a Trump Administration means for us, will it be good for Australia? Not what it means to Americans or the US, or even what it means to each of us personally.

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Reply #50 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win. He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Without the majority of voters voting for him, the convicted felon can't put up a convincing argument that he has a mandate.

Many people agree that a true mandate requires a win in all three categories: electoral college, popular vote, and majority of voters.

The rapist scored two out of three.

That might be okay for Meatloaf, but not for serious political pundits.

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Reply #52 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win. He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Without the majority of voters voting for him, the convicted felon can't put up a convincing argument that he has a mandate.

Many people agree that a true mandate requires a win in all three categories: electoral college, popular vote, and majority of voters.

The rapist scored two out of three.

That might be okay for Meatloaf, but not for serious political pundits.

yep, no doubt about it

peccas lost touch with reality Grin

chronic fapping can do that to you

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Reply #53 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win. He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in.

It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate.

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Reply #54 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:53pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

It means:

We can govern because the people said we can.

Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

The majority of the people?

As I said, an ambiguous term.

Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three.

The rapist only scored two out of three.

Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

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Reply #55 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:54pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win. He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in.

It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate.

It's whether it has the consent to impregnate.

If not, it's rape.

Hmm, an apt description.

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Reply #56 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

It means:

We can govern because the people said we can.

Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

The majority of the people?

As I said, an ambiguous term.

Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three.

The rapist only scored two out of three.

Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well?

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Reply #57 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

The rapist thinks he has a mandate because he won the electoral college and the popular vote.

I would argue (and many would, and do, agree with me) that the convicted felon does not have a mandate on the basis that the majority of voters did not vote for him.

Those who believe in democracy have no choice but to accept the outcome of an election,...

Don't change the subject just because you've been proven wrong.

I'm not disputing the rapist's win. He won.

I'm disputing how big a win it was, and I'm disputing his claim to have a mandate.

Maybe I'll use the rhetorical milieu you like speaking in.

It doesn't matter the size of the cock, it's whether it can impregnate.

It's whether it has the consent to impregnate.

If not, it's rape.

Hmm, an apt description.

Maybe look at it from a Darwinian perspective... if only to divert you from rape for one post.

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Reply #58 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:09pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

It means:

We can govern because the people said we can.

Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

The majority of the people?

As I said, an ambiguous term.

Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three.

The rapist only scored two out of three.

Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well?

There's no hand-wringing here.

I'm merely pointing out the facts.

Without the majority of voters voting for the rapist, it's hard for him to mount a serious argument that he has a mandate.

And, the electoral college is stupid. Everyone knows that.

But again, no hand-wringing - if that's the system in place, then that's the system that needs to be followed and respected.

The rapist won the electoral college in 2016, so that means he got to be President.

However, he lost the popular vote and he did not have a majority of voters voting for him (not even close, at 46.1%), so again - no mandate.

Obama and Biden won all three categories though, so I guess - using your terminology - Obama and Biden had bigger cocks and full consent to impregnate.

Diaper Don has a tiny mushroom, and has to resort to rape.

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Reply #59 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:09pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:53pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Mandate is an ambiguous term.

It means:

We can govern because the people said we can.

Confirmed beyond contention when those who challenged us conceded that.

The majority of the people?

As I said, an ambiguous term.

Obama and Biden scored a perfect score of three out of three.

The rapist only scored two out of three.

Not a real mandate, in many experts' opinion.

Will you spend the next 4 years hand-wringing over the US electoral college as well?

There's no hand-wringing here.

I'm merely pointing out the facts.

Without the majority of voters voting for the rapist, it's hard for him to mount a serious argument that he has a mandate.

And, the electoral college is stupid. Everyone knows that.

But again, no hand-wringing - if that's the system in place, then that's the system that needs to be followed and respected.

The rapist won the electoral college in 2016, so that means he got to be President.

However, he lost the popular vote and he did not have a majority of voters voting for him (not even close, at 46.1%), so again - no mandate.

Obama and Biden won all three categories though, so I guess - using your terminology - Obama and Biden had bigger cocks and full consent to impregnate.

Diaper Don has a tiny mushroom, and has to resort to rape.

So no hand-wringing, just more neurotic reiteration, then...

The Rhyme of the Ancient Wanker.

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