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Trump's new tariffs
Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:18pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c8xpzl8nnvwt?post=asset%3A41490bf2-c0f2-4c02-a088-...

Trump says as soon as he gets into office, he’ll sign an executive order
imposing a 25% tariff on "all products" entering the US from neighbours Mexico and Canada.

In his Monday night post on Truth Social, he also says, external these tariffs - which are a type of a tax - will be in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs and illegal migrants crossing the border.

"As everyone is aware, thousands of people are pouring through Mexico and Canada, bringing crime and drugs at levels never seen before," he writes.

He also says, external an extra 10% tariff will be charged on goods coming from China, on top of any other tariffs. This is lower than he threatened before - back in the campaign he promised 60%.

Trump says that will last until the Chinese government
cracks down on fentanyl being smuggled out the country.

"Representatives of China told me that they would institute their maximum penalty, that of death, for any drug dealers caught doing this but, unfortunately, they never followed through, and drugs are pouring into our country, mostly through Mexico, at levels never seen before," he says.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #1 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? America is being destroyed by Chinese Fentanyl. 100s of 1000s of people have died - dealers are mixing fentanyl with everything.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #2 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:56pm That's what happened to the famous rock star Prince - someone put a bit of Fentanyl in his heroin - and he went to sleep and died. He followed 100s of 1000s of others.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74548 Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #3 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:39am Inflation in the US is about to shoot through the roof
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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #4 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:57am

Mark Swidan is an American who has been detained since 2012 in Jiangmen, China, and given the death penalty for trafficking drugs. In 2019, Swidan was charged with drug trafficking in China and sentenced to death with a two-year reprieve by a court in Guangdong. On April 14, 2023, the Guangdong court upheld the decision to sentence Swidan to death.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/14/china/us-citizen-death-sentence-upheld-china-
intl-hnk/index.html

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #5 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:06am John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:39am: Inflation in the US is about to shoot through the roof Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs for Americans to build products without unfair competition and price dumping.
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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #6 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:37am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

America is being destroyed by Chinese Fentanyl.

100s of 1000s of people have died - dealers are mixing fentanyl with everything.

Because it won't work. All that will come of it will be a trade war that hurts ordinary Americans in their hip pocket when they are already struggling with a cost of living crisis. In short, Trump is a moron.

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Scott Morrison DID wipe the floor with Bull Shitten!!!

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74548 Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #7 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:40am Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:06am: Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs so they'll work their arses off and still be unable to afford anything
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25941 Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #8 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 12:03pm John Smith wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 11:40am: Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:06am: Many products will go up in price but it will also enable many more jobs so they'll work their arses off and still be unable to afford anything I think Bobby is one of Trumps' advisers. Explains why Trump has no clue about tariffs.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137565 Gender:	Re: Trump's new tariffs Reply #9 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm: Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that? He knows how tariffs work, that's why.
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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #10 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese:

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #11 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese:

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-she...

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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #12 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese:

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-she...

The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump.

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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #13 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 9:20pm:

Why didn't sleepy Joe Biden do that?

He knows how tariffs work, that's why.

Then how is Biden dealing with the Chinese:

unfair competition from Govt. subsidies,

price dumping at below cost, which closes down American and Australia businesses -
check out how BHP closed nearly all their steel mills,

trying to compete with employers who pay their workers
only a bowl of rice per day and have no OH&S standards,

and China making tons of Fentanyl and flooding the USA with it from the Mexico border?

In November 2023, President Biden negotiated the resumption of counternarcotics cooperation with the People’s Republic of China (PRC), spurring increased cooperation on law enforcement actions and ongoing efforts to shut down companies that fuel illicit fentanyl and synthetic drug trafficking and cause deaths in the United States.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/31/fact-she...

The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump.

He's wrong though.

The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less.

Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures.

"There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined."

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Re: Trump's new tariffs
Reply #14 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:18pm:

The amount of Fentanyl coming into the USA is at record levels according to Trump.

He's wrong though.

The amount of seizures is at record levels - the amount coming in is still the same or less.

Biden is actually doing something about it, whereas Trump did nothing - he just let it flow across the border with hardly any seizures.

"There were nearly 70,000 pounds of fentanyl seized along the Southwest [U.S.] border in the 24 months ending in August 2024," said Jen Daskal, a deputy assistant to President Biden on the National Security Council who focuses on fentanyl policy. "That's more fentanyl seized in the past two fiscal years than in the prior five years combined."

Trump wants to stop it being made in the first place - in China.

Tariffs will do it.

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