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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2236 New England, NSW Gender:	Self Defence, Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:23pm against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation. Can this ever be disputed?
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #1 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:41pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:23pm:

against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?

The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 11461 armidale Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #2 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:18pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:23pm: Can this ever be disputed? Never. No-one in Ozpol has ever disputed it. Never been discussed. Ever.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84562 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #3 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:29pm "Our experts have gone over every inch of your house and there is no sign of any home invaders...." "That's because I blew 'em out of the goddamned air lock, that's why! They're all over the lawn...."
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #4 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:41pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:23pm:

against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?

The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.

There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.

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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #5 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:55pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:41pm:

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.

What should old people use against younger fitter stronger home invaders who may have trained in MMA?

Something like this would be effective little to no recoil be fairly quiet wouldn't need hearing protection.
The Aimpoint sight means he could acquire targets with speed and confidence.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: Self Defence, Reply #6 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:44pm
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104805 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #7 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:13pm That's Brian's only contribution.
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2236 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #8 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:18pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:44pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Now sing aii togrther. ‘’Ha…li….tosis………….ha..li……tosis………ha..li…..to…..oo…oo…..sisss’’
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: Self Defence, Reply #9 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:43pm
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104805 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #10 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:43pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif That's all a Doctor of Divinity can write these days.
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2236 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Self Defence, Reply #11 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 9:43pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Now sing aii togrther. ‘’Ha…li….tosis………….ha..li……tosis………ha..li…..to…..oo…oo…..sisss’’ Repeat.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: Self Defence, Reply #12 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 11:00am
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #13 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 11:23am

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 6:41pm:

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.

What should old people use against younger fitter stronger home invaders who may have trained in MMA?

Something like this would be effective little to no recoil be fairly quiet wouldn't need hearing protection.
The Aimpoint sight means he could acquire targets with speed and confidence.

A gun is not enough even if owner knows how to use it. A defender have to have no hesitation to use it, which is hard if you start to think about an invaders rights.

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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #14 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 12:08pm

Apr 11, 2024
https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-news-man-killed-one-injured-after-alleged-axe-attack-south-of-the-gold-coast/486b6c2d-37b1-4ec9-9014-845b276bb3e3

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Two masked men armed with an axe allegedly stormed an Oxford Street home in Kingscliff, south of Queensland's Gold Coast, about 8pm on Tuesday.
The home invaders confronted 66-year-old Alan Kerr and struck him with the axe multiple times, partially severing his hand, police said.

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"We have been informed that the occupant, in self defence and in an attempt to protect himself, has armed himself with a knife and struck the deceased to the chest," he said.
"We will be examining the circumstances surrounding the incident, in particular the conduct of the occupant if the conduct was necessary and proportionate to his safety."

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