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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #15 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.



There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #16 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 1:20pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.


There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.


You seem to enjoy telling lies.  Perpetrators have exactly the same rights as their victims, no more.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #17 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 2:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.


There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.


You seem to enjoy telling lies.  Perpetrators have exactly the same rights as their victims, no more.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Dehisco contributed.
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Reply #18 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 8:35pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 2:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.


There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.


You seem to enjoy telling lies.  Perpetrators have exactly the same rights as their victims, no more.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Dehisco contributed.


Assoleo contributed.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #19 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 8:43pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.



There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.




Burglars have the right to a safe workplace -

which is your home.

So if they are injured they can sue you for damages.
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #20 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 10:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.



There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.




Burglars have the right to a safe workplace -

which is your home.

So if they are injured they can sue you for damages.






That is silly bobby.

And yes, i know that homeowners in Australia who have confronted and killed a burglar,
have been prosecuted in court.

Well imo, that just shows how much justice is lacking, in our law.

Q.
And who is to blame ?

A.
1/ Our LAWMAKERS.   And, 2/ we are too.    [...because our LAWMAKERS simply reflect the 'zeitgeist' of the populace whom they 'represent'.

zeitgeist = = the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history.


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Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.


Exodus 22:2
If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.


Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.



Q.
Do the wicked ever escape judgment ?

[Maybe they believe that.]

Psalms 9:16
The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
17  The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.


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Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #21 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 10:22pm
 
Yadda,
Quote:
That is silly bobby.

And yes, i know that homeowners in Australia who have confronted and killed a burglar,
have been prosecuted in court.

Well imo, that just shows how much justice is lacking, in our law.



We have no Castle law.    Undecided


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Reply #22 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 11:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 10:22pm:
Yadda,
Quote:
That is silly bobby.

And yes, i know that homeowners in Australia who have confronted and killed a burglar,
have been prosecuted in court.

Well imo, that just shows how much justice is lacking, in our law.




We have no Castle law.    Undecided




bobby,

Q.
Are Australian citizens in Australia, subject to the common law of the land ?

Q.
Are police officers in Australia, subject to the common law of the land ?



bobby,

The law of the land, in all states of Australia, state that firearms such as Glock pistols
ARE PROHIBITED FIREARMS.


And i ask again......
Q.
Are police officers in Australia, subject to the common law of the land ?



I will contend, that they must be.       ......IF WE ARE, ALL EQUAL, IN LAW.

Or should be !

We can't have separate laws, applying to different groups, in our society, in our land.

We must have laws, which apply equally, to EVERY CITIZEN.

But that, is not so, at the moment.


Q.
Why is there one law, for
1/ all ordinary [law-abiding] citizens in Australia,
and then, there is a different law, which applies to,
2/ citizens in Australia.....who happen to be police officers ?


[It can't be.....that police officers are 'different', because of their need of self-protection.
Because if everyone is equal in law,
then EVERY CITIZEN has a right [AN EQUAL RIGHT] to the same level of the 'means', to protect themselves against violent criminal assaults.
]


If we are all 'equal before the law',
then we must have laws, which apply equally, to EVERY CITIZEN.

IF NOT, then we would be in danger, of becoming a wholly corrupted [full of inequalities] society,
and the whole place would be in danger of going 'topsy turvy'.     [....i.e. become ungovernable.]

One law,        ....for all.


And if you say that, 'Yes, police officers in Australia, are subject to the common law of the land.'
......then i would say PROVE IT TO ME.

DISARM THEM.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Self Defence,
Reply #23 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 11:58pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 28th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:41pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 6:23pm:
against unlawful attack is not only a basic Right it is also an obligation.
Can this ever be disputed?


The police often dispute it and it is not uncommon for people who self defend to be imprisoned.

Knew a guy who won a few martial arts national championships, he beat up 3 guys who broke into his home. Almost went to prison.



There is no castle doctrine in Australia.

Home invaders and burglars have rights.


Sometimes more than victims.




Burglars have the right to a safe workplace -

which is your home.

So if they are injured they can sue you for damages.



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Reply #24 - Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:49am
 


baron,

I know that i am 'dreaming' but......

I want police [the upper hierarchy of police] in Australia to be like that individual.

Which individual ?

@Reply #23......

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #25 - Nov 29th, 2024 at 9:09am
 
Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:49am:


baron,

I know that i am 'dreaming' but......

I want police [the upper hierarchy of police] in Australia to be like that individual.

Which individual ?

@Reply #23......

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.





David Clarke is right but there is a problem -

just having a forearm in your house makes you 20 times more likely
to be shot by your own firearm than to ever confront a burglar or home invasion.   Undecided
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Reply #26 - Nov 29th, 2024 at 9:52am
 

@Reply #25,

bobby,

Re-examine THE WORDS, in the image posted by baron,

@Reply #23

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Reply #27 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 2:14pm
 
Anybody who breaks into your home whilst you are there intends to kill you and your’s so you have every right to stop the invader even if it means killing.
However don’t use a firearm or you might be charged for using a firearm for self defence and using a gun to save your life is expressly forbidden in the National Firearms Agreement, politicians want you to have no chance.
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Reply #28 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 2:16pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 9:09am:
Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:49am:


baron,

I know that i am 'dreaming' but......

I want police [the upper hierarchy of police] in Australia to be like that individual.

Which individual ?

@Reply #23......

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.





David Clarke is right but there is a problem -

just having a forearm in your house makes you 20 times more likely
to be shot by your own firearm than to ever confront a burglar or home invasion. 
 Undecided

Wherevdid you get that absurdity from?
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Reply #29 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 2:40pm
 
Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:49am:


baron,

I know that i am 'dreaming' but......

I want police [the upper hierarchy of police] in Australia to be like that individual.

Which individual ?

@Reply #23......

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.





David Clarke is right but there is a problem -

just having a firearm in your house makes you 20 times more likely
to be shot by your own firearm than to ever confront a burglar or home invasion.   Undecided


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