Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 11:27am:


Indeed.

The post-recession gains in manufacturing employment under Biden have been the strongest in 72 years, and the second strongest since World War II.

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 11:36am:


And still, the post-recession gains in manufacturing employment under Biden have been the strongest in 72 years, and the second strongest since World War II.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 11:41am:


And I can see you are proud of that darling.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 11:44am:


Bidens term and covid are not in the same time span, I don't care if you want to compare two different things to meet your agenda, thats something you have to deal with. Facts are there were more manufacturing jobs in 2019 than there is today.

And just to be clear in 2018 there were 14855200 jobs and in 2019 there were 15065200 jobs.

Why not pay for CHIPS, IRA ect with Tariffs.

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 12:02pm:


Your error: Biden was elected because of the poor economy at the start of his term when the pandemic was coming to an end; Trump would almost certainly have been re-elected if covid hadn't ruined the economy in his last year as prez. 

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I don't; see above.

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Greg's link:

"...more than 200,000 manufacturing jobs were lost during former President Donald Trump’s single term. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic manufacturing job growth had all but plateaued under the Trump administration".

So, how to explain the discrepancy in these "facts"?

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before the pandemic closed down the economy.

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Because tariffs alone won't pay for those schemes, while higher inflation from tariffs is hurting other businesses who rely on consumers' purchasing power. .

But it's good to see you like Biden's 'big government' policies (costing $trillions in public funding).   

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 12:52pm:


yes, you need to, so we can sort out the discrepancy beween the facts re job creation in the Trump and Biden terms of office.

Greg has linked to a serious examination of the data, you have merely asserted an increase in manufacturing jobs in 2019, and that there are less manufacturing jobs in the US in 2024 than in 2019.

(I'm wondering if your 2nd assertion conflates both manufacturing and non-manufacturing jobs, which might explain the discrepancy in the "facts" as presented so far).   

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 2:07pm:


OK show me proof that I need to show proof sweetie.

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:


Meh.

You had your chance, and you blew it.

Don't expect to ever be taken seriously in this forum ... sweetie.