Frank wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 11:01am:


Yes, we have - several times.

We've even posted videos that explain it.

Biden's tariffs are strategically targeted.

The rapist's tariffs are a blanket tax.

Biden uses tariffs like a skilled surgeon delicately wielding a scalpel.

The rapist uses them like a demented ape swinging an axe.

Once again: Biden's tariffs are strategically targeted, whereas the rapist's are not.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 11:31am:


See brute force does win, Trump did warn you that you would get sick of winning.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Facing tough questions about runaway inflation and the record-high cost of consumer goods, gay black Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reminded everyone that everything has always been more expensive than usual.

"When you think about it, prices are always going up on things, even before President Biden was elected," she said. "For example, when I was a gay black child, you could get 5 roast beef sandwiches at Arby's for $5, and when I was a gay black teenager, you could only get 4. None of this is Biden's fault. Also, I am gay and black."

Critics insist that prices on essentials like food, clothing, and gas have increased more rapidly under Biden than ever before, and are demanding answers from the White House.

"I don't get why you all think it's so bad out there," said Pierre, rapidly flipping through a giant 3-ring binder filled with empty pages to stall for time. "Apparently all the regular people are having trouble paying their mortgages and feeding their children, but the President believes the concerns are overblown. I haven't spent any money on gas for my Tesla in weeks, and Taco Bell still has a dollar menu. Everything's fine!"

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 3:01pm:


Hit the nail on the head. No one knows what will work or won't work, not me, not Sadkanga, not Frank in fact no one at all. You don't even have to do anything and just let things roll along.

You can though take a position, its not better or smarter or even worse than other positions its just a different position. Most will take Trumps position as displayed by his landslide victory because he is Trump and he has the power. Others will take a different position because it is Trump and he has the power.

Then we can concoct a theory as to why our position is a better position but in the end everyone is right and everyone is wrong.

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 3:01pm:


Crap.
Even CNN acknowledges that Trump has a broad range of economic plans. Tariffs is not the beginning and the, as you stupidly try to pretend.

What is the point of the Biden tarriffs? If it is strategic to help one local industry, What is wrong with supporting them all?

And do remember, Trump is talking about fair trade, one that is not ripping off America.

Donald Trump recognized long before he became president that we cannot have free and open trade if some countries exploit the system at the expense of others. President Trump replaced decades of calamitous multinational trade blunders with fair and reciprocal trade that returned jobs, wealth, and manufacturing to America. He cancelled the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership, replaced the NAFTA nightmare with the groundbreaking USMCA, and renegotiated the one-sided South Korea deal. President Trump confronted unfair trade practices, imposed tariffs on China that brought billions of dollars into the federal treasury, expanded American agriculture, and opened thousands of new factories. President Trump will implement a 4-year national reshoring plan so that the United States no longer needs to rely on China for essential medical and national security goods, and ban Chinese ownership of all critical infrastructure in the United States. We will bring back our supply chains, and build America into the manufacturing superpower of the world.

You can kvetch and crap about this all you like but this is not 'tarriffs are the beginning and the end". So dont be stupid.

Leroy wrote on Dec 7^th, 2024 at 3:12pm:


Thanks, Leroy. You've eloquently articulated the position.

1. Accept DL's policies, even ones costed to fail, because they're DL's.

2. Have faith they will work because he has a kind of supernatural power.

3. Wait and see what happens.

4. We can then concoct a theory. All good.

There's only one problem with your proposition. DL has been in office before. We've seen the data from his previous actions. These are just three.

Tax cuts
Your DL promised the corporate tax cut would see investment in bricks and mortar, employment growth and a rise in tax revenue.

The tax cut was invested straight into share buybacks, saw no investment or job creation and tax revenue dropped massively.

Government debt
He promised to pay off the deficit and create a surplus in his first term.

By 2019, government debt ballooned by a quarter. Then covid hit, raising it to a third.

Manufacturing and trade wars
He promised to bring back manufacturing from Chi-na by declaring a trade war. In return, the US would be rolling in tax revenue, all paid by Chi-na.

China retaliated with tariffs on US crops. Farmers in the Mid West lost their farms. DL was forced to invest the "Chi-na tariff money" into farming subsidies.

I shouldn't need to explain to you his error in China paying tariffs - American consumers paid for these mistakes. Manufacturing plants and factories continued to move to Chi-na and Mexico during his term in office, raising the manufacturing trade deficit with both countries. Offshoring of manufacturing continued throughout your DL's term, presenting a significant problem when covid hit.

Your DL's advisors begged him not to do these things and told him what would happen if he did. He ignored them all. They showed him spreadsheets, he didn't listen. I can make it happen, he said.

He didn't, and he couldn't. These are just three failed policy areas. Your DL had hundreds - domestic and foreign fiascos you've probably never even heard of. His first term was a total disaster.

43 of his senior advisors and cabinet members said they'd never work with him - or even vote for him - again. They all said he's a complete fool, who botches whatever he touches, creates chaos, then lies to cover up his own mess.

You're right on point four too - when he fails, his base creates a theory, always blaming someone else: illegals, leftards, RINOs, the Deep State. There's a billion dollar industry in this work, with Fox, Newsmax and all the influencers rushing in to help - for a buck.

His next administration will have no guardrails - no RNC appointees, friends of RINO donors or Deep Staters. It will also have project 2025, so they'll lose the civil servants - decades of professional experience in key federal areas gone.

Your four points above detail the strategy - exactly why he'll fuck up again. He hasn't learned, and he's only gotten worse. He's surrounded by sycophants and grifters who will rort the country dry. This will effect Australia too. His tariff threats alone have already lowered our dollar. We're yet to see what a completely dysfunctional, unhinged and vengeful US administration can do to us and the world.

It can't possibly be good.

Good: "The Biden administration’s approach of coupling smart, strategic, targeted tariffs with actual investment in American industry is delivering enormous results."

Bad: "The previous administration (under the rapist and convicted criminal) tried a trade approach that relied only on tariffs and corporate tax cuts, and it failed to solve the big problems facing domestic production. It did not truly reorient global supply chains away from China, nor did it rebuild American industrial might."