Leroy wrote on Dec 7
th, 2024 at 3:12pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 7
th, 2024 at 3:01pm:
Yet you’ve decided it’s a good idea, because Trump proposed it. That’s the real problem here. You’re not engaging with evidence, reason, or basic economics. So there’s no point in asking what sources or research might change your mind, you’ve made it clear that no facts will ever penetrate your ideological armour.
Hit the nail on the head. No one knows what will work or won't work, not me, not Sadkanga, not Frank in fact no one at all. You don't even have to do anything and just let things roll along.
You can though take a position, its not better or smarter or even worse than other positions its just a different position. Most will take Trumps position as displayed by his landslide victory because he is Trump and he has the power. Others will take a different position because it is Trump and he has the power.
Then we can concoct a theory as to why our position is a better position but in the end everyone is right and everyone is wrong.
Thanks, Leroy. You've eloquently articulated the position.
1. Accept DL's policies, even ones costed to fail, because they're DL's.
2. Have faith they will work because he has a kind of supernatural power.
3. Wait and see what happens.
4. We can then concoct a theory. All good.
There's only one problem with your proposition. DL has been in office before. We've seen the data from his previous actions. These are just three.
Tax cutsYour DL promised the corporate tax cut would see investment in bricks and mortar, employment growth and a rise in tax revenue.
The tax cut was invested straight into share buybacks, saw no investment or job creation and tax revenue dropped massively.
Government debtHe promised to pay off the deficit and create a surplus in his first term.
By 2019, government debt ballooned by a quarter. Then covid hit, raising it to a third.
Manufacturing and trade warsHe promised to bring back manufacturing from Chi-na by declaring a trade war. In return, the US would be rolling in tax revenue, all paid by Chi-na.
China retaliated with tariffs on US crops. Farmers in the Mid West lost their farms. DL was forced to invest the "Chi-na tariff money" into farming subsidies.
I shouldn't need to explain to you his error in China paying tariffs - American consumers paid for these mistakes. Manufacturing plants and factories continued to move to Chi-na and Mexico during his term in office, raising the manufacturing trade deficit with both countries. Offshoring of manufacturing continued throughout your DL's term, presenting a significant problem when covid hit.
Your DL's advisors begged him not to do these things and told him what would happen if he did. He ignored them all. They showed him spreadsheets, he didn't listen. I can make it happen, he said.
He didn't, and he couldn't. These are just three failed policy areas. Your DL had hundreds - domestic and foreign fiascos you've probably never even heard of. His first term was a total disaster.
43 of his senior advisors and cabinet members said they'd never work with him - or even vote for him - again. They all said he's a complete fool, who botches whatever he touches, creates chaos, then lies to cover up his own mess.
You're right on point four too - when he fails, his base creates a theory, always blaming someone else: illegals, leftards, RINOs, the Deep State. There's a billion dollar industry in this work, with Fox, Newsmax and all the influencers rushing in to help - for a buck.
His next administration will have no guardrails - no RNC appointees, friends of RINO donors or Deep Staters. It will also have project 2025, so they'll lose the civil servants -
decades of professional experience in key federal areas gone.
Your four points above detail the strategy - exactly why he'll fu
ck up again. He hasn't learned, and he's only gotten worse. He's surrounded by sycophants and grifters who will rort the country dry. This will effect Australia too. His tariff threats alone have already lowered our dollar. We're yet to see what a completely dysfunctional, unhinged and vengeful US administration can do to us and the world.
It can't possibly be good.
Moronic drivel.
America (and everyone else) must wear unfair trade practices from China, otherwise we all have to pay a fair price for goods. The end of the world!!
That is as moronic as Sad, you, groggy and the rest of you grimacing TDS kids have.