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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 46820 Gender:	Re: Trump and tariffs Reply #15 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:48pm Exactly! Trumpy is going to see huge inflation. Lucky Americans!
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Reply #16 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:33pm:

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China -

That's exactly how it is.

The Tariffs are paid by the Americans, not the Chinese.

What is a tariff?

A tariff is a tax on imports, or foreign goods brought into the United States.

Who pays for tariffs?

This is a question that many Americans asked after the election. Trump has said foreign countries pay for tariffs, but tariffs are actually paid by American companies that import goods from abroad.

So if an American car manufacturer is importing a part from Mexico, it will have to pay a tariff on the part once it arrives in the country.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?

By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137545 Gender:	Re: Trump and tariffs Reply #17 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:51pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:48pm: Exactly! Trumpy is going to see huge inflation. Lucky Americans! If he imposes the tariffs, inflation will skyrocket. And, the rapist will blame it all on the Biden administration and his cult members will believe him. You just wait and see.
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Reply #18 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Exactly!

Trumpy is going to see huge inflation. Lucky Americans!

If he imposes the tariffs, inflation will skyrocket.

And, the rapist will blame it all on the Biden administration and his cult members will believe him.

You just wait and see.

You don't know what you are talking about, compulsive wankers.

Biden has already imposed tariffs on China. As have India, the EU, Canada. Are they doing it to punish their own people?

China imposed 200% tariffs on some Australian products. Was that punishing the Chinese consumers?

Give your self-frigging a rest, you'll ruin another keyboard.

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Reply #19 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

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Reply #20 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:35pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

Stupid waffle, son of Pakistan. It feels like being subjected to a trouser sniffing know nuffin's endless stupid grimacing tapdancing. That's how it feels. Bbwian with words.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104805 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Trump and tariffs Reply #21 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:49pm
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Re: Trump and tariffs
Reply #22 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:13pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

Stupid waffle, son of Pakistan. It feels like being subjected to a trouser sniffing know nuffin's endless stupid grimacing tapdancing. That's how it feels. Bbwian with words.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

But of course it's stupid waffle. Your DL said.

He's promised to tariff Chi-na. Fentanyl. Men of military age. Jails, mental hospitals and worse, mental asylum seekers.

He's pretending to tax Chi-na, not American consumers paying 20% extra for their iPhones. He's using national security laws - traditionally used in times of war - to supposedly punish the Chows.

Are you literally as dumb as he?

Dumb as a rock, as Tillerson said.

You.

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Reply #23 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:18pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

Stupid waffle, son of Pakistan. It feels like being subjected to a trouser sniffing know nuffin's endless stupid grimacing tapdancing. That's how it feels. Bbwian with words.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

But of course it's stupid waffle. Your DL said.

He's promised to tariff Chi-na. Fentanyl. Men of military age. Jails, mental hospitals and worse, mental asylum seekers.

He's pretending to tax Chi-na, not American consumers paying 20% extra for their iPhones. He's using national security laws - traditionally used in times of war - to supposedly punish the Chows.

Are you literally as dumb as he?

Dumb as a rock, as Tillerson said.

You.

So Biden imposed tariffs on China to hurt Americans.

Grin and tapdancer.

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Reply #24 - Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:35pm

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

Stupid waffle, son of Pakistan. It feels like being subjected to a trouser sniffing know nuffin's endless stupid grimacing tapdancing. That's how it feels. Bbwian with words.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

But of course it's stupid waffle. Your DL said.

He's promised to tariff Chi-na. Fentanyl. Men of military age. Jails, mental hospitals and worse, mental asylum seekers.

He's pretending to tax Chi-na, not American consumers paying 20% extra for their iPhones. He's using national security laws - traditionally used in times of war - to supposedly punish the Chows.

Are you literally as dumb as he?

Dumb as a rock, as Tillerson said.

You.

So Biden imposed tariffs on China to hurt Americans.

Grin and tapdancer.

Oh, I see. Are you saying Biden's just as bad?

After everything you've said. The Biden crime family, the laptop from hell, the classified documents in his glovebox - Sleepy Joe secretly has a plan to tariff Chi-na's arse and pay off the US government deficit - using tariffs from Chi-na?

Is that it?

Do tell, dear boy. You're on a roll here. You go, girl.

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Reply #25 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:35pm:

Oh, I see. Are you saying Biden's just as bad?

After everything you've said. The Biden crime family, the laptop from hell, the classified documents in his glovebox - Sleepy Joe secretly has a plan to tariff Chi-na's arse and pay off the US government deficit - using tariffs from Chi-na?

Is that it?

Do tell, dear boy. You're on a roll here. You go, girl.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

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Reply #26 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:30am

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:35pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 7:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 9:53am:

Watch this video clip. It involves a very good, very easy to understand, explanation regarding how tariffs work and why the country enacting the tariffs (in this case, the US) will see their consumers pay more and cause inflation to rise. Just watch it - it's very good. Just goes to show how Trump shapes his messages to make it look like he's going to hurt another country when the opposite is actually true, but his supporters don't question this or understand the issue - in this case, how tariffs actually work.

Pakman's ignorance is matched by his smugness - and the eager stupidity of those who lap up his nonsense.

If it was really as he says - American importers and consumers wear the cost of tariffs, not China - then it would have been also Chinese importers and consumers who paid the price for Chinese government impsed tariffs on Australian goods, with no discernible effect on Australia. Were the ChiComms so stupid as to deliberately hurt their own companies and consumers?
By Pakman's smug idiocy, yes. Chinese tariffs on Australian goods were calculated to inflict pain on Chinese importers and Chinese consumers, leaving Australia unaffected.

The ChiComms oppose tariffs in their own goods because they want to protect American companies and consumers. And so they threaten to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own to hurt their own companies and consumers.

Ah, the rat-cunning of the inscrutable Commie Chow, eh?

Why yes, old boy, Xi's tariffs most certainly were calculated to price our fine Aussie wines, beef and soy beans out of the reach of the Chow consumer. That was exactly their intention.

Your DL has other ideas. He pretends his tariffs are form of taxation - on the Chows!

Yes, your DL harks back to the Golden Era of free trade when there was no income tax at all, just tariffs. He literally thinks his tariffs are a form of taxation on the Chinese government.

He also thinks the Chinese government exports illegal fentanyl to kill Americans off. He says it all the time. Xi, he says, looking straight at the camera, stop sending your fentanyl and maybe I won't have to tariff you so bad.

But worse, he thinks Xi's emptying out his jails, mental hospitals and mental asylums and sending them all to America - men of "military age" that look like "trained killers". God knows what they're sent in to do, he says, but it can't be good. Presumably, they're all practicing their kung fu moves in secret training camps all over America, like some Hong Kong action flick from the 1970s.

If DL tariffs Xi, DL says, he might stop sending them in, so there's that. But there's also the additional revenue raising benefit of getting money out of Chi-na. A win-win, no?

Do you know your problem, old boy? You're trying to defend the thought bubbles of an 80 year old reality TV celebrity with dementia. Why don't you just fess up?

You know it's the most ridiculous krap we've ever heard from an elected official - from any country. Why don't you just admit it?

You've been farmed.

How does it feeeeel?

Stupid waffle, son of Pakistan. It feels like being subjected to a trouser sniffing know nuffin's endless stupid grimacing tapdancing. That's how it feels. Bbwian with words.

Chow tariff - cunning like you. But the chows lived. Aussie folded.
Trump tariff ( (but not Biden, EU, curry muncher tariff) baaad.

But of course it's stupid waffle. Your DL said.

He's promised to tariff Chi-na. Fentanyl. Men of military age. Jails, mental hospitals and worse, mental asylum seekers.

He's pretending to tax Chi-na, not American consumers paying 20% extra for their iPhones. He's using national security laws - traditionally used in times of war - to supposedly punish the Chows.

Are you literally as dumb as he?

Dumb as a rock, as Tillerson said.

You.

So Biden imposed tariffs on China to hurt Americans.

Grin and tapdancer.

Oh, I see. Are you saying Biden's just as bad?

After everything you've said. The Biden crime family, the laptop from hell, the classified documents in his glovebox - Sleepy Joe secretly has a plan to tariff Chi-na's arse and pay off the US government deficit - using tariffs from Chi-na?

Is that it?

Do tell, dear boy. You're on a roll here. You go, girl.

He still doesn't get it, and he never will.

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Reply #27 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:39am

GOOD, WISE, ASTUTE

President Biden’s economic plan is supporting investments and creating good jobs in key sectors that are vital for America’s economic future and national security. China’s unfair trade practices concerning technology transfer, intellectual property, and innovation are threatening American businesses and workers. China is also flooding global markets with artificially low-priced exports. In response to China’s unfair trade practices and to counteract the resulting harms, today, President Biden is directing his Trade Representative to increase tariffs under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 on $18 billion of imports from China to protect American workers and businesses.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/14/fact-she...

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President Trump’s economic plan is supporting investments and creating good jobs in key sectors that are vital for America’s economic future and national security. China’s unfair trade practices concerning technology transfer, intellectual property, and innovation are threatening American businesses and workers. China is also flooding global markets with artificially low-priced exports. In response to China’s unfair trade practices and to counteract the resulting harms, today, President Trump is directing his Trade Representative to increase tariffs under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 on $18 billion of imports from China to protect American workers and businesses.

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Re: Trump and tariffs
Reply #28 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 4:27pm

Naughty naughty, old boy. You selectively edited, you silly old thing.

Biden's Chi-na tariffs are part of a far wider economic plan, linked with key legislation to secure microprocessors, roll out high speed broadband, lead the way on renewables and create jobs in the process.

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With support from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, CHIPS and Science Act, and Inflation Reduction Act, these investments are creating new American jobs in manufacturing and clean energy and helping communities that have been left behind make a comeback.

Your DL doesn't just want to tariff Chi-na, he wants to tariff Everybody. He sells tariffs, the "most beautiful word in the dictionary", as a revenue raising measure. He's even floated the idea of replacing income taxes with them.

Biden's tariffs are directed at Chi-na as an economic/security measure. They're one component of an infrastructure/chips plan to make the US self sufficient in high tech manufacturing. They're linked to actual government investment in these areas and they've brought manufacturing back to the US - the exact opposite of your DL's failed first term in office, which saw the biggest manufacturing trade deficit to China in years.

Your DL was forced to import the face masks he never wore and the hand sanitizer he wanted to inject lungs with. Biden learned from your DL's failures: the US needs to become self sufficient in key manufacturing areas as a national security measure.

Your DL wants to use tariffs, a direct quote, to "tax Chi-na", along with everybody else.

Look, if your cult leader doesn't even understand how tariffs work, how is he possibly going to secure the kind of critical infrastructure he requires to make America great?

Biden's been spending the past four years getting 5G processors manufactured onshore. The aim is to build the infrastructure required for the next technological shift, AI, and prevent this technology being controlled by Beijing, which is already a decade ahead of the US in this area.

While your DL's been shrieking about Chi-na emptying out it's prisons, mental hospitals and mental asylums (which he thinks are far worse), Sleepy Joe's been quietly getting bills passed and rolling out the transition to smart, renewable technology.

This was definitely a missed opportunity for Karmala in the last election - to explain this transition, to make it a central part of her campaign. The contrast between the two visions - and the stakes for the global economy - could not be starker.

Your DL wants a return to a fossil fuel economy and the golden age of trade wars - without having the first idea about how they work. He thinks the US government can control the flow of US oil. He thinks tariffs are a tax on foreign countries, so that's he. But do you know?

Your cult-like devotion to such a vision explains everything we need to know about you.

You?

Yes, you naughty old thing, you.

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Re: Trump and tariffs
Reply #29 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 4:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:51pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Exactly!

Trumpy is going to see huge inflation. Lucky Americans!

If he imposes the tariffs, inflation will skyrocket.

And, the rapist will blame it all on the Biden administration and his cult members will believe him.

You just wait and see.

i think that if inflation does go up, he would be wise to blame biden.
same goes for the border
trump has such powers of persuasion he could sell a bacon sandwich to the ayatollah.
and the game of politics is all about persuasion and selling
and about being able to grab the microphone and riff
he was born to be president.

mere sardines like gweg and karmal can only look on in awe Grin

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