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Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:44pm
 

The great harm that politicians cause....

....to our personal rights and liberties,
....and to our national treasure,
....through their self-serving choices.


IN THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.......

The intent, was,
that our politicians, aka 'the peoples representatives',
would be honest stewards, and serve the people diligently and honestly.

But today, and for many decades, politics has become a 'game' for talented, self-serving, grifters.

Today, very many politicians no longer see themselves as stewards [of the citizens],
but as 'princes' in the land.




Isaiah 5:18
Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:


Ezekiel 34:7
Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9  Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10  Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11  For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.


Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3  He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.


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Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:18am
 
The deal with the Greens to pass 27 bills before the end-of-year parliamentary break signalled that Labor would accept radical and backward concessions to achieve its short-term goals.

Greens leader Adam Bandt is on record as saying “pressure works” with regards to the Greens’ support of Labor in rushing 27 bills through the parliament.

If the ALP happens to win the next federal election and needs to form an alliance with the Greens, then one can imagine that the Greens tail will really be wagging the ALP dog. This week’s example of the Greens holding the ALP to ransom will become an everyday occurence.
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Yadda wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 7:44pm:

The great harm that politicians cause....

....to our personal rights and liberties,
....and to our national treasure,
....through their self-serving choices.


IN THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.......

The intent, was,
that our politicians, aka 'the peoples representatives',
would be honest stewards, and serve the people diligently and honestly.

But today, and for many decades, politics has become a 'game' for talented, self-serving, grifters.

Today, very many politicians no longer see themselves as stewards [of the citizens],
but as 'princes' in the land.




Isaiah 5:18
Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:


Ezekiel 34:7
Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
8  As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9  Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
10  Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11  For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.


Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2  He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3  He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6  Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.




Please... Read what went on in Athens and Rome...

Read how parliamentarians interacted with English monarchs for nearly 1000 years.

When has politics not been about at least in part, if not completely, about politicians' self-interest?

Interestingly, Jordan Peterson's rants have increasingly imitated your posts - he usually wanders off the subject and into the writers' minds of Ezekiel, Isiah, Genesis, Exodus &etc... Ending in a high-pitched often tearful, tirade about their truths being 'so true, they're happening to you today'...

We'd bloody well hope not, Peterson! Ezekiel was a schizo!
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We like Jordan Peterson...

What was in the 27 bills?  HERE!  Do your homework ... I'm not your spoon feeder ...

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/28/albanese-labor-senate-lik...

"The Senate was swiftly moving its way through 31 government bills late on Thursday night after the Greens agreed to support a vote on 27 bills in return for $500m for social housing energy upgrades and commitments against fossil fuel investment.

While the Albanese government relied on the Greens and crossbench to pass its Future Made in Australia agenda and a range of treasury and attorney general’s portfolio bills, it worked with the Coalition to pass three controversial migration bills and the under-16s social media ban.

Labor attempted to guillotine debate in the Senate at 9.45am but fell short by one vote, with independent David Pocock siding with the Coalition.

But after a flurry of negotiations, the Senate agreed shortly after noon to reorder its business with the Greens, Pocock and Tammy Tyrrell voting with Labor to guillotine debate on 27 bills, meaning they will receive a final vote on Thursday.

It was a dramatic day all round as Coalition Senate leader, Simon Birmingham, announced his retirement from politics, hinting at his next steps as colleagues paid tribute to his parliamentary service.

The opposition foreign affairs spokesman will leave at the 2025 federal election to take on a “new, commercially oriented direction”.

The Greens revealed they had secured $500m to expand the social housing energy performance initiative to upgrade public and community homes to lower power bills for tenants.

The measure could help 50,000 social homes be retrofitted with energy efficient upgrades such as air conditioning and insulation; electric hot water systems, cooktops and ovens; and solar panels and batteries.

The Greens leader, Adam Bandt, said that “Greens pressure works”, helping tenants “save approximately $1,800 a year on power bills”.

The Greens also won amendments to the Future Made in Australia bill to ensure that no support will be provided to coal, oil and gas under that program and the commercial investments and programs of Export Finance Australia. The bills – five in all – were passed.

The government agreed to support Greens amendments to retain the power to override Reserve Bank decisions on interest rates and for the RBA to direct the lending activities of banks.

Amendments to the build-to-rent legislation will increase the minimum lease term that must be offered to tenants in new developments from three to five years.

Earlier on Thursday, the housing minister, Clare O’Neil, stood alongside Pocock, the Property Council and the Community Housing Industry Association to announce changes to the build-to-rent tax law include banning no-fault evictions.

O’Neil said 10% of build-to-rent properties must be affordable, defined as 74.9% of market rent or 30% of income, whichever is lower.

Pocock announced his deal with the government included these changes, bringing forward the mandatory food and grocery code, $10m for gene research into invasive species and “two further significant measures that will be announced in the coming days”.

The government suffered a setback on electoral law conceding it had reached an impasse with the Coalition and that the bill was off the table until next year.

The finance minister, Katy Gallagher, said the special minister of state, Don Farrell, will instead seek support over summer for a final push to pass donation and spending caps in February.

But the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, told 2GB Radio that he thought millionaires who “might be thinking that they can put $100m into an election campaign” constituted “subverting our democratic process”.

“So, I think when people are buying elections, or they’re seeking to influence elections – either for their own ego or because they have an obsession on climate change or whatever else it might be – that’s something that I don’t think is healthy in the system,” he said.

Dutton said the government had “got some internal discussions going on in relation to one part of the bill”, suggesting the ball was still in Labor’s court for a last-minute deal.

The Senate was expected to give a final vote to the below legislation on Thursday, with votes in the guillotine motions and public positions indicating they are likely to pass."

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"Expected to pass with Coalition support

The social media age ban for under-16s.

Three migration bills:

    The migration amendment bill, allowing Australia to pay third countries to take non-citizens, and supporting the reimposition of ankle bracelets and curfews on people released on immigration detention.

    Powers to prohibit items including phones in immigration detention.

    The removals bill including criminal penalties for not cooperating with deportation and the power to blacklist visa applications from designated countries.

Expected to pass with Greens’ support

In the treasury portfolio:

    Tax and other measures no 1 bill.

    Build-to-rent tax changes.

    Mergers and acquisitions reform.

    Reserve Bank reforms.

    Responsible buy now, pay later laws.

    Fairer for families and farmers and other measures bill.

    The superannuation (objective) bill.

Three bills validating the imposition of payment surcharges by commonwealth entities.

In the attorney-general’s portfolio:

    Anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing amendment bill 2024

    Crimes amendment (strengthening the criminal justice response to sexual violence) bill 2024

    Family law amendment bill 2024

    Privacy and other legislation amendment bill 2024

Five bills relating to the Future Made in Australia legislation.

Other:

    Communications legislation amendment (regional broadcasting continuity) bill 2024.

    Crown references amendment bill 2023.

    Customs amendment (Asean-Australia-New Zealand free trade area second protocol implementation and other measures) bill 2024.

    Customs tariff amendment (incorporation of proposals and other measures) bill 2024.

    Midwife professional indemnity (commonwealth contribution) scheme amendment bill 2024.

    Surveillance legislation (confirmation of application) bill 2024.

    Sydney airport demand management amendment bill 2024.

    Universities accord (national student ombudsman) bill 2024.

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Here, you lazy bastards - read down for the content of the wheeler-dealing in The Gaga Strip:-

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Federal politics [politics generally] within Australia......


The Australian Labor party, will always promote policies which are advantageous for
the Australian Labor party.
......and would oppose not support any policy which   may be   disadvantageous for
the parliamentary members of the Australian Labor party.

The Australian Liberal party, will always promote policies which are advantageous for
the Australian Liberal party.
......and would oppose not support any policy which   may be   disadvantageous for
the parliamentary members of the Australian Liberal party.

.....and everyone else.......let the devil take the hindmost.



And i would guess that, these political circumstances, would apply globally, to every 'democratic' system of government.

Career politicians.

The greasy pole.

The promised merit of the 'democratic' system, is thwarted.


thwart = = prevent from succeeding in or accomplishing something.



The world of politics, is both a sieve and a stumbling block.



Daniel 4:16
Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
17  This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones:
to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men,
and giveth it to whomsoever he will,
and setteth up over it the basest of men.



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Yadda,
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The great harm that politicians cause....
....to our personal rights and liberties,
....and to our national treasure,
....through their self-serving choices.


IN THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.......

The intent, was,
that our politicians, aka 'the peoples representatives',
would be honest stewards, and serve the people diligently and honestly.

But today, and for many decades, politics has become a 'game' for talented, self-serving, grifters.

Today, very many politicians no longer see themselves as stewards [of the citizens],
but as 'princes' in the land.


They should be spending their time removing stupid laws not making new ones.
How many laws do we need? -
there must be about a million laws by now?
It's got so bad that companies in business have to employ teams of lawyers to make
sure they comply by laws that most people have never heard of.
The question always is -
is there some law that we might be breaking?

Example:
You get stupid laws like "provisional tax" -
you have to pay tax on predicted money that you'll make before you even earn it.
If you're having a bad year you still have to pay tax 9 months in advance -
and if you can't borrow money to pay it you'll go bankrupt
for money that you don't even owe.

The Govt treats any business as a cash cow to milk into bankruptcy.
They don't care if everyone loses their jobs.
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Unfortunately the harm Australian politicians cause is generational.

The first option is having their wages and pensions linked to KPIs, basically if the country thrive as a result of their decisions then their wages will reflect that.
On the other side if the country goes backwards so does their wages and pensions.

A perhaps better idea is to just admit that Australia is fast losing its first world status and the King of England sacks the lot and appointed a administrator.

Thirdly and my personal preference.

Hang them all and start again fresh.
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Reply #14 - Dec 2nd, 2024 at 3:38pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 3:32pm:
Unfortunately the harm Australian politicians cause is generational.

The first option is having their wages and pensions linked to KPIs, basically if the country thrive as a result of their decisions then their wages will reflect that.
On the other side if the country goes backwards so does their wages and pensions.

A perhaps better idea is to just admit that Australia is fast losing its first world status and the King of England sacks the lot and appointed a administrator.

Thirdly and my personal preference.

Hang them all and start again fresh.





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when you hang a man you better look at him.


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