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Reply #30 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:50pm

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:08pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:02pm:

What about the Maoris in NZ?

They would do a Haka and the Russians would run away like rabbits.

This problem can be solved with mortars in a few minutes.

But those Russian hands would be shaking too much to fire the mortars. Embarrassed

They are cannibals - they would have Russians for dinner.

The mortar men won't hear or see them. They are several kilometers away from their targets.

The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.

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RussiAnVetEraN Senior Member Offline Stunned Posts: 488 Zelenograd Gender:	Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine? Reply #31 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:32pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:50pm: The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children. They are from a warrior culture. What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?
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Reply #32 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 6:05am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:27pm:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

Settle petal. Just hypothetical.

Why not think about the situation in Syria? Oops, sorry, not a good idea for you today, eh? Grin

Are any of your soldiers prepared for the fact that he won't be able to leave his dugout for many days because there are UAVs constantly flying over it?

Australia has excellent drone detection and destruction equipment.

You are taking a merely hypothetical proposition very seriously! Is it because if Australia does others will too?

I am simply using this topic as an opportunity to share with you the realities of this war. The situation in which both Russian and Ukrainian troops find themselves.

Australia may have good counter-drone equipment, but will it be available to an Australian platoon on the front line?

By the way, drones are fought not only with the help of this equipment, but drones are also shot down with regular small arms (assault rifles) sometimes.

You don’t know much about the war, do you?

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Reply #33 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:20am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.

What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?

The British kept shooting them with muskets and canons full of shrapnel.

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Reply #34 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:44am

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.

What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?

The Maori fought among themselves a lot.
They admit that they lost it, more than the Europeans having won it as most of the violence was of their own doing. Very honourable admission.

Long time ago. A Russian Warship threatened the early NZ colony which had to submit.
Not so long ago the Russian cruise ship Lermontov was given a drunkard Kiwi pilot to guide it around the Marlborough Sounds which hit rocks and eventually sank. It's now a top dive site. I've dived it.
Karma. Grin

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Reply #35 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 11:22am

Bringing this back on topic.

Any comments about the purely hypothetical sending of 10,000 Aussie troops, together with modern armor, air force and SAS, to Ukraine to fight.

Would it make a difference to the war, hypothetically.

E.g. SAS could go behind enemy lines, sabotage artillery which is the ruzzian main advantage, guide drones and artillery, HIMARS, ATACMS to destroy more armor and especially artillery.

Ruzzia won’t have the artillery advantage for much longer—they are already swapping used up modern barrels with barrels taken from older Soviet artillery because the constant firing wears out the barrels. The barrels taken from the old stuff is not new, unused gear.

Aussie troops joining the fight would hugely boost the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers.

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RussiAnVetEraN Senior Member Offline Stunned Posts: 488 Zelenograd Gender:	Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine? Reply #36 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:00pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 6:05am: You don’t know much about the war, do you? Of course I know little about the war. But I am participating in it and therefore I know some things.
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Reply #37 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:20am:

RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 11:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 10:50pm:

The Maoris take no prisoners except for women and children.

They are from a warrior culture.

What then prevented them from defending New Zealand and conquering Australia?

The British kept shooting them with muskets and canons full of shrapnel.

So you think that muskets defeated them, but modern cluster munitions, glide bombs and thermobaric shells will not defeat them?

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Reply #38 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 11:22am:

Bringing this back on topic.

Any comments about the purely hypothetical sending of 10,000 Aussie troops, together with modern armor, air force and SAS, to Ukraine to fight.

Would it make a difference to the war, hypothetically.

E.g. SAS could go behind enemy lines, sabotage artillery which is the ruzzian main advantage, guide drones and artillery, HIMARS, ATACMS to destroy more armor and especially artillery.

Ruzzia won’t have the artillery advantage for much longer—they are already swapping used up modern barrels with barrels taken from older Soviet artillery because the constant firing wears out the barrels. The barrels taken from the old stuff is not new, unused gear.

Aussie troops joining the fight would hugely boost the morale of the Ukrainian soldiers.

"SAS could go behind enemy lines"

What an armchair General. Roll Eyes

Monk - you're a joke.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46787 Gender:	Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine? Reply #39 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:18pm What do you think the SAS does? It is like talking to a child. But try and develop the hypothetical situation.
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Reply #40 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:35pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:44am:

Long time ago. A Russian Warship threatened the early NZ colony which had to submit.

Do you mean this ancient fake?

"David Luckie, the editor of the Daily Southern Cross, was concerned about this threat and published a hoax report of a Russian invasion of Auckland by the ironclad cruiser Kaskowiski – ‘cask of whisky’. Despite an asterisk in the story’s headline referring to a date almost three months in the future, gullible Aucklanders were alarmed to read that marines from the Kaskowiski had seized gold and taken the mayor, Philip Philips, hostage."
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/the-russians-are-coming

As you can see, nothing has changed and Western people were previously scared by Russians and continue to be scared by Russians now.

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Reply #41 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 4:05pm

Wow Yuri my Russo friend. I never knew it was a hoax!
Looks like I was sucked in big time. My apologies.

What do you think of Australia's former Prime Minister Tony 'Macho Man' Abbott wanting to grab your Putin by the shirt-front and give him a good ol Aussie headbutt for the Russian missile attack on a civilian Airliner with Australians in it?
Apparently Putin purposely dodged Abbott like a chicken and Obama had to step in and have a word to Abbott to back off, because Abbott was making him look bad also. Can't have a black man upstaged by an Aussie on "Who's da Man".
In response, Putin sent a part of the Russian Navy to do 'exercises' off Australian waters near the state of Queensland.
The result was: Putin was a chickenshit of a man
Australia's ADF was a chickenshit of a Navy.
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Reply #42 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 6:09pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Wow Yuri my Russo friend. I never knew it was a hoax!
Looks like I was sucked in big time. My apologies.

What do you think of Australia's former Prime Minister Tony 'Macho Man' Abbott wanting to grab your Putin by the shirt-front and give him a good ol Aussie headbutt for the Russian missile attack on a civilian Airliner with Australians in it?
Apparently Putin purposely dodged Abbott like a chicken and Obama had to step in and have a word to Abbott to back off, because Abbott was making him look bad also. Can't have a black man upstaged by an Aussie on "Who's da Man".
In response, Putin sent a part of the Russian Navy to do 'exercises' off Australian waters near the state of Queensland.
The result was: Putin was a chickenshit of a man
Australia's ADF was a chickenshit of a Navy.
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Friend, if you want to call me by my name, then my name is Alexander.

I think it is an exaggeration that the Prime Minister wanted to fight Putin.

And I believe that it was not Russia that shot down the plane.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104765 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine? Reply #43 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 7:13pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 3:18pm: What do you think the SAS does? It is like talking to a child. But try and develop the hypothetical situation. The Russians execute soldiers found behind enemy lines.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46787 Gender:	Re: Australia sending troops to Ukraine? Reply #44 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 7:44pm If they catch them. We have supported Ukraine quite a bit. Bushmasters “Paper” drones Anti drone EW equipment. Albo is sending our clapped out Abrams to Ukraine—used as a source of spare parts. Spain is sending Abrams—fully refurbished, ready for battle on landing in Ukraine.
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