Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 12:43pm:


Well - OK, for the sake of the argument.... (with apologies to mothra). 

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Didn't take long for your analysis to veer off course:

Unelected Bullock is a servant of the deep state  in the "independent" Reverse Bank, not the government;  and the elected government is also a servant; they are both ruled by the deep state's  financial elites.

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Your errors exposed above: the NAIRU is the elites' trick    to control inflation via a variable pool of unemployed workers.

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But, sadly, you will be as ineffective as any politician operating in the current neoliberal 'small government' orthodoxy.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 2:09pm:



We can clean out our Deep State when potato head wins early next year -
the head of the ABC has gotta go.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 2:19pm:



Our public service needs a complete clean out -

all the cultural Marxists have gotta go -
it's over - their comfy jobs bossing us around are finished.
They can go to Centrelink  and stand in line with all the unemployed.

Potato head - get it done.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 1:48pm:


Easy. It doesn't exist.

John Smith wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 5:13pm:

'Deep state' is a direct translation from Turkish derin devlet, referring to covert military and civilian organisations created to preserve Ataturk's secular Turkey.

It has come to refer to covert groups that operate independently of a national government (democratic or not) to thwart or subvert that government’s will - not, in the US or Australian context, to collapse the state or overthrow the government.

These covert groups can be components of the public service, military, security agencies, religious groups, business corporations, ethnic or political separatists, &etc.

Famously, Eisenhower warned of it in the US with his industrial-military complex speech. Kennedy went to ‘war’ with the CIA, which he claimed was operating beyond the authority of the president and Congress. Johnson blamed the Civil Rights movement for undermining support for the Vietnam War. With Nixon, it was the counter-culture movement and anti-administration forces aligned against him. Reagan claimed military personnel were responsible for the Iran-Contra affair.

Trump, regarding his first administration, amazingly, and almost accidentally, blamed himself for ‘hiring the wrong people’ thus creating deep state ‘cabals’ operating - up to and including, at cabinet level! Hence his current obsession and paranoia over his senior picks.

Whatever, no nation anywhere can claim to be free of a deep state – they are, primarily, covert (so their existence is often unconfirmed, unproven, merely presumed, or exist only in the mind of the head of state/government).

Ultimately, though—given that no government has ever ruled with a mandate of 100% of the people (in democratic countries, they govern usually with not much more than 50% approval and often less)—at least some organised resistance to the government’s will is likely and ineradicable.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 1:57pm:


Trump is the Deep State. It thrived in his first term and will get another nice kick along.