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Re: Donny And Elon
Reply #15 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:36pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 4:45pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 1:23pm:

what people need to understand is that these guys are businessmen, not politicians

what will they do?

simple

1 they will run washington like they are the CEO and deputy of a large corporation. they will go through the various departments and see who is value for money and who is not

musk apparently spent 24 hours staright at X interviewing every employee down to the cleaners.
at the end he had sacked most of the people
thats a great business principle
if you arent adding value to a system over and above your wage, you need to go

2 trump will deal with foreign powers the way a business deals with other businesses.
no more dividing leaders into goodies and baddies
just, who can we cut a deal with that helps our position and who cant we cut a deal with

If trump can get oil out of iran delievered by somali pirates cheaper then he can get it from bass strait then thats what he will do
If you want to get on with trump, do a deal , try to make it a win/win

It will be the beginning of a new golden age for the USA if he can stick to this

And we must expect more countries to go down this path

Wars probably arent on the agenda.
If 2 other countries want to "go at it" trumps position will probably be "how can we exploit the chaos and cut deals with the people they are not serving"

MAGA is a business movement
Ideology is for pussies
Its time to hustle

Trump still thinks he's on Celebrity Apprentice.

You're fired.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48267 Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #16 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:37pm Biden got fired from a 2nd term😆🤣😂
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104726 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #17 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:38pm Jasin wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:37pm: Biden got fired from a 2nd term😆🤣😂 Kamala - you're fired.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48267 Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #18 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:40pm Dopey Joe needed three women; Hillary, Pelosi and Harris to make him President Muppet Man😆
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104726 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #19 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:42pm Jasin wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 7:40pm: Dopey Joe needed three women; Hillary, Pelosi and Harris to make him President Muppet Man😆 Biden and all of them are puppets of the Deep State.
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Reply #21 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:31pm

the dynamic is at an inflection point (biden actually said that

)

for the 462 government agencies growing at the rate of 5 new agencies per year.
think of them as pedestrians in a city 100 yrs ago.the "old way of doing things", the "status quo"

and think of trump and elon as 2 guys in a new automobile (a tesla)

the old gaurd , the vested interests, the pedestrians originally had all the power.
cars had to give way to people on foot .

trump and elon had to give way to the old gaurd.

However
the person on foot who was originally portrayed as a victim of this bullying car, was very quickly turned into a fool who should get out of the way.

jay walking laws were enacted very quickly. the whole rules flipped almost over night

within a year, pedestrians were seen to be in error if they got in the way of this "new exciting force of power and status"

we are at an inflection point and big government and red tape and woke ideology are going to go the way of the guy on foot. he gets out of the way or the new dynamic will simply roll over the top of him .

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48267 Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #22 - Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:42pm As Asimov wrote in his Foundation series. Australia is Terminus. The American Empire built on Rome will fall.
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Reply #23 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 12:59am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:31pm:

the dynamic is at an inflection point (biden actually said that

)

for the 462 government agencies growing at the rate of 5 new agencies per year.
think of them as pedestrians in a city 100 yrs ago.the "old way of doing things", the "status quo"

and think of trump and elon as 2 guys in a new automobile (a tesla)

the old gaurd , the vested interests, the pedestrians originally had all the power.
cars had to give way to people on foot .

trump and elon had to give way to the old gaurd.

However
the person on foot who was originally portrayed as a victim of this bullying car, was very quickly turned into a fool who should get out of the way.

jay walking laws were enacted very quickly. the whole rules flipped almost over night

within a year, pedestrians were seen to be in error if they got in the way of this "new exciting force of power and status"

we are at an inflection point and big government and red tape and woke ideology are going to go the way of the guy on foot. he gets out of the way or the new dynamic will simply roll over the top of him .

I know, dear, but here in Sydney, we're building metros and light rail.

Ted Bullpit's not a fan. The [Kingswood?

You're not taking the Kingswood, he says, I just Ipanaed the dashboard!

And so it goes. The human-powered pedestrian makes way for the fossil-fueled Kingswood, which is superceded by mass public transit, inevitably powered by renewables.

Read your Piaget.

Money on the fridge, wog.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13618 Colorado Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #24 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 4:24am greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 6:59pm: However, it'll be fun to watch. I'll give it 8 months before Trump completely destroys the economy
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Re: Donny And Elon
Reply #25 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 5:11am

Karnal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 12:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:31pm:

the dynamic is at an inflection point (biden actually said that

)

for the 462 government agencies growing at the rate of 5 new agencies per year.
think of them as pedestrians in a city 100 yrs ago.the "old way of doing things", the "status quo"

and think of trump and elon as 2 guys in a new automobile (a tesla)

the old gaurd , the vested interests, the pedestrians originally had all the power.
cars had to give way to people on foot .

trump and elon had to give way to the old gaurd.

However
the person on foot who was originally portrayed as a victim of this bullying car, was very quickly turned into a fool who should get out of the way.

jay walking laws were enacted very quickly. the whole rules flipped almost over night

within a year, pedestrians were seen to be in error if they got in the way of this "new exciting force of power and status"

we are at an inflection point and big government and red tape and woke ideology are going to go the way of the guy on foot. he gets out of the way or the new dynamic will simply roll over the top of him .

I know, dear, but here in Sydney, we're building metros and light rail.

Ted Bullpit's not a fan. The [Kingswood?

You're not taking the Kingswood, he says, I just Ipanaed the dashboard!

And so it goes. The human-powered pedestrian makes way for the fossil-fueled Kingswood, which is superceded by mass public transit, inevitably powered by renewables.

Read your Piaget.

Money on the fridge, wog.

the left used to be the disruptors
the party that embraced change

if you cant see that trump and musk are about as disruptive as it gets, you are blind

now the left are the party of the statys quo
looking after the rusted on interests in washington

what happened to the left protesting the vietnam war?
now they all want to go to war in the ukraine.
they crap talk gabbard for saying the wars in the middle east were evil

the left used to be the party of hippies suspicious of big pharma
now they have posters of anthony fauci on their lawn

the left now think latinos who voted for trump are white supremicists

a lot of the left dont actually believe the woke nonsense
and now that they have permission to "come out" there is going to be a wave of lefties who renounce woke ideology
a tidal wave in fact

the left basicly have to rethink just about everything

AOC even said it and shes as dumb as a hammer

maybe she will lead the left to the exit doors and give permission for the great U turn

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48267 Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #26 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 7:45am The Economy is already destroyed by Biden Marla
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Re: Donny And Elon
Reply #27 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 3:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 5:11am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 12:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:31pm:

the dynamic is at an inflection point (biden actually said that

)

for the 462 government agencies growing at the rate of 5 new agencies per year.
think of them as pedestrians in a city 100 yrs ago.the "old way of doing things", the "status quo"

and think of trump and elon as 2 guys in a new automobile (a tesla)

the old gaurd , the vested interests, the pedestrians originally had all the power.
cars had to give way to people on foot .

trump and elon had to give way to the old gaurd.

However
the person on foot who was originally portrayed as a victim of this bullying car, was very quickly turned into a fool who should get out of the way.

jay walking laws were enacted very quickly. the whole rules flipped almost over night

within a year, pedestrians were seen to be in error if they got in the way of this "new exciting force of power and status"

we are at an inflection point and big government and red tape and woke ideology are going to go the way of the guy on foot. he gets out of the way or the new dynamic will simply roll over the top of him .

I know, dear, but here in Sydney, we're building metros and light rail.

Ted Bullpit's not a fan. The [Kingswood?

You're not taking the Kingswood, he says, I just Ipanaed the dashboard!

And so it goes. The human-powered pedestrian makes way for the fossil-fueled Kingswood, which is superceded by mass public transit, inevitably powered by renewables.

Read your Piaget.

Money on the fridge, wog.

the left used to be the disruptors
the party that embraced change

if you cant see that trump and musk are about as disruptive as it gets, you are blind

now the left are the party of the statys quo
looking after the rusted on interests in washington

what happened to the left protesting the vietnam war?
now they all want to go to war in the ukraine.
they crap talk gabbard for saying the wars in the middle east were evil

the left used to be the party of hippies suspicious of big pharma
now they have posters of anthony fauci on their lawn

the left now think latinos who voted for trump are white supremicists

a lot of the left dont actually believe the woke nonsense
and now that they have permission to "come out" there is going to be a wave of lefties who renounce woke ideology
a tidal wave in fact

the left basicly have to rethink just about everything

AOC even said it and shes as dumb as a hammer

maybe she will lead the left to the exit doors and give permission for the great U turn

I totally agree. The Dems have become the party of law and order, the Constitution, the Republic.

The GOP has become the party of corporatism, authoritarianism, government by decree.

The Dems don't have to think too much, dear, just wait.

Your DL got thrown out after one term for advising injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs.

By the time he's done, Joe Lunchbox will be over it. Who are the Republicans going to go with?

The "noble Ron"?

Come come. The GOP has become a fascist cult. If not he, who?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95759 Gender:	Re: Donny And Elon Reply #28 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 3:39pm Jasin wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 8:42pm: As Asimov wrote in his Foundation series. Australia is Terminus. The American Empire built on Rome will fall. Aussie's not looking too good, dear. The threat of sanctions on Chi-na may place us in recession. Oh, what a lovely war, no?
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Reply #29 - Dec 3^rd, 2024 at 4:48pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2024 at 1:23pm:

1 they will run washington like they are the CEO and deputy of a large corporation. they will go through the various departments and see who is value for money and who is not

https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=62207

Austerity cultist Kenneth Rogoff continues to bore us with his broken record

I was talking to a podcast yesterday and they asked me what might happen if Elon Musk and his gang close down a lot of government departments.

While the Musk zealots might claim they are freeing the US of wasteful and unnecessary bureaucracy, the spending that runs those departments is necessary to sustain the current GDP growth and employment levels, given non-government spending choices.

So if they scrap those departments and do not increase spending elsewhere to offset the chosen spending cuts then the US will likely fall into recession.

While we might take the view that a specific area of government spending is wasteful according to our preferences and values, at the current time, that spending is supporting employment and income generation.
...

So you better inform the DOGE duo they have to get the private sector to replace the 'wasteful' public sector with wealth creating activity which the public want, preferably while lifting the minimum wage.

As has already been said: a country isn't a corporation.

And you can't create enough business geniuses like Musk who can employ the entire nation.

I predict it will be easier for Trump to get the hostages out of Gaza (and god knows that will be difficult if he doesn't offer Hamas a Palestinian state, and only threatens Hamas with total destruction as he did yesterday), than to create well-paying jobs for all Americans, with Musk in charge of the nation's macroeconomy.

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