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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 516 Gender:	Will there ever be a vaccine Dec 4^th, 2024 at 10:34am For Trump derangement syndrome. Is this disease curable and what happens when Trump leaves office, what do these people do then, how will they handle the frustration. I propose that Trump is allowed to be president for life so scientists can study this disease, I think it may be linked to covid.
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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:11pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

For Trump derangement syndrome.

Is this disease curable and what happens when Trump leaves office, what do these people do then, how will they handle the frustration.

I propose that Trump is allowed to be president for life so scientists can study this disease, I think it may be linked to covid.

The term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is highly subjective, and its meaning depends on one's perspective.

If you're referring to individuals who unquestioningly embrace everything he asserts, despite contradictions, and internalise those beliefs as part of their identity, then the only remedy or preventative measure is education.

But given the current direction it appears Trump will take, education is going to be a bad word under his second term and they want to make sure that it's an ineffective preventative cure to TDS.

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Reply #2 - Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:17pm

Trumpomania is more appropriate... an unrelenting addiction to Trumpophobia.... PTAS - Puerile Trump Addiction Syndrome... TUD - Trump Use Disorder - a serious addiction to a lack of substance in argument ....

There is a growing range of disorders surrounding Trump's elevation to The Heavenly Throne and his approaching sanctification... soon this will spill over into people becoming TransTrumpGender ... for those who identify as a Trump but can't take a trick ....

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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #3 - Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:19pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

For Trump derangement syndrome.

Is this disease curable and what happens when Trump leaves office, what do these people do then, how will they handle the frustration.

I propose that Trump is allowed to be president for life so scientists can study this disease, I think it may be linked to covid.

The term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is highly subjective, and its meaning depends on one's perspective.

If you're referring to individuals who unquestioningly embrace everything he asserts, despite contradictions, and internalise those beliefs as part of their identity, then the only remedy or preventative measure is education.

But given the current direction it appears Trump will take, education is going to be a bad word under his second term and they want to make sure that it's an ineffective preventative cure to TDS.

Education at the moment is get out of bed at 11am and wander down to the school of choice with a placard supporting Hamas and sitting out front of school chanting from the river to the sea, and complain that no one takes you serious.

From my observations those suffering from TDS are easily detected with one question.

Name something good Trump has done?.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137490 Gender:	Re: Will there ever be a vaccine Reply #4 - Dec 4^th, 2024 at 2:27pm SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:11pm: ... individuals who unquestioningly embrace everything he asserts, despite contradictions, and internalise those beliefs as part of their identity... Yep. They have TDS.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84540 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Will there ever be a vaccine Reply #5 - Dec 4^th, 2024 at 2:53pm He defeated Harris in the polls - Murika dodged a bullet there...
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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #6 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:07pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:19pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 1:11pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

For Trump derangement syndrome.

Is this disease curable and what happens when Trump leaves office, what do these people do then, how will they handle the frustration.

I propose that Trump is allowed to be president for life so scientists can study this disease, I think it may be linked to covid.

The term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is highly subjective, and its meaning depends on one's perspective.

If you're referring to individuals who unquestioningly embrace everything he asserts, despite contradictions, and internalise those beliefs as part of their identity, then the only remedy or preventative measure is education.

But given the current direction it appears Trump will take, education is going to be a bad word under his second term and they want to make sure that it's an ineffective preventative cure to TDS.

Education at the moment is get out of bed at 11am and wander down to the school of choice with a placard supporting Hamas and sitting out front of school chanting from the river to the sea, and complain that no one takes you serious.

From my observations those suffering from TDS are easily detected with one question.

Name something good Trump has done?.

There were undeniably some positive accomplishments during Trump’s first term. For instance, the First Step Act and Operation Warp Speed, even if his broader pandemic response left much to be desired. Additionally, while his executive orders targeting Big Pharma largely amounted to symbolic gestures, they did at least highlight a crucial issue, though, as with many such actions, there was little follow-through beyond the photo op.

Similarly, while his approach was heavy-handed and diplomatically clumsy, pushing NATO member nations to increase their defence funding addressed a long-standing imbalance that many agree needed correction.

That said, the metric being applied here, gauging the degree of one's TDS based on perceived "good" actions Trump has taken, has limitations. Much of what Trump did resonated strongly with conservative and far-right ideologies. Naturally, those who do not share those perspectives are unlikely to view such actions positively. This isn’t a case of TDS, it’s simply a difference in political opinion.

Objectively, Trump also engaged in behaviour ranging from the merely questionable to the outright egregious. Some actions were trivial but embarrassing, others staggeringly foolish, and some entirely indefensible.

To flip the script, however, those who accuse others of having TDS can often be identified as suffering from it themselves through a counter-question:

Name something negative that Trump has done.

If they struggle to identify any flaws, or worse, excuse actions that are patently indefensible, such as altering an official hurricane tracking map to cover up a mistake, thereby putting an unaffected region on high alert and wasting significant resources, it’s fair to suggest that they may be exhibiting the opposite bias and suffer from TDS themselves.

Blind loyalty and unwillingness to acknowledge missteps are what I would describe as the true meaning of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #7 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm

Trump has flaws, a human trait we all share.

Trump is a very generous man who values his family.

He is not a facist, racist, nazi, sexist, criminal, self centered or many other false labels put on him by the media and his detractors.

This is why people suffer from TDS they believe what the media has portrayed him as. Not because they believe what they say but because thats what they want the public to believe.

Trump is a family man and that is displayed by his children, you can tell he has nurtured his children with love and respect.

Trump cares about people and if you ever do take the time to find out what he has done for other people you may also take that view.

Trump does not suffer fools, he will certainly tell you the truth about what he is thinking, which is good for some and bad for others.

Trump has never wavered from wanting to make America great, to enhance the lives of every american.

Its the tall poppy syndrome, he is better than me so I will cut him down.

He can be blunt, disrespectful and arrogant to those that oppose him.

I find him more honest and more reliable than any other politician.

His energy and stamina he has in the face of lawfare, media lies and personal attacks is incredible. I can't imagine anyone else being able to withstand what he has endured.

The man is a monolith, several TV shows (Morning Joe, Racheal maddow, the View, joy Ried and many more) are all based on demonizing Trump yet he still wins the presidency. That is just unbelievable, nothing like that even comes close.

Just look at how the media attacks anyone that comes close to Trump, now that is criminal.

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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #8 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 5:57pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm:

Trump has flaws, a human trait we all share.

Trump is a very generous man who values his family.

He is not a facist, racist, nazi, sexist, criminal, self centered or many other false labels put on him by the media and his detractors.

This is why people suffer from TDS they believe what the media has portrayed him as. Not because they believe what they say but because thats what they want the public to believe.

Trump is a family man and that is displayed by his children, you can tell he has nurtured his children with love and respect.

Trump cares about people and if you ever do take the time to find out what he has done for other people you may also take that view.

Trump does not suffer fools, he will certainly tell you the truth about what he is thinking, which is good for some and bad for others.

Trump has never wavered from wanting to make America great, to enhance the lives of every american.

Its the tall poppy syndrome, he is better than me so I will cut him down.

He can be blunt, disrespectful and arrogant to those that oppose him.

I find him more honest and more reliable than any other politician.

His energy and stamina he has in the face of lawfare, media lies and personal attacks is incredible. I can't imagine anyone else being able to withstand what he has endured.

The man is a monolith, several TV shows (Morning Joe, Racheal maddow, the View, joy Ried and many more) are all based on demonizing Trump yet he still wins the presidency. That is just unbelievable, nothing like that even comes close.

Just look at how the media attacks anyone that comes close to Trump, now that is criminal.

It is not the media but 45’s own actions that decisively undermine the characterisation you've tried to present.

The media merely reported on them.

Was it the media’s fault that 45 cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar and then attempted to buy her silence?

Is it the media’s fault that 45 habitually lies, about himself, his achievements, his plans, pledges, promises, or even the present state of affairs?

Should the media be blamed for his tendency to opt for the laziest, most superficial path to accomplish anything, often resorting to fabrications to mask his failure, because he lacks the discipline or commitment to pursue anything beyond a staged photo op?

Is it the media’s fault that 45 chooses to trust the word of Putin over the assessments of his own intelligence agencies?

At some point, accountability for his actions must fall on 45 himself. If you refuse to hold him to account and instead continue to make excuses for his conduct, it begins to look like this:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

If they struggle to identify any flaws, or worse, excuse actions that are patently indefensible...it’s fair to suggest that they may be exhibiting the opposite bias and suffer from TDS themselves.

I'm sorry to inform you friend, but you appear to be suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #9 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:12pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 5:57pm:

Leroy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm:

Trump has flaws, a human trait we all share.

Trump is a very generous man who values his family.

He is not a facist, racist, nazi, sexist, criminal, self centered or many other false labels put on him by the media and his detractors.

This is why people suffer from TDS they believe what the media has portrayed him as. Not because they believe what they say but because thats what they want the public to believe.

Trump is a family man and that is displayed by his children, you can tell he has nurtured his children with love and respect.

Trump cares about people and if you ever do take the time to find out what he has done for other people you may also take that view.

Trump does not suffer fools, he will certainly tell you the truth about what he is thinking, which is good for some and bad for others.

Trump has never wavered from wanting to make America great, to enhance the lives of every american.

Its the tall poppy syndrome, he is better than me so I will cut him down.

He can be blunt, disrespectful and arrogant to those that oppose him.

I find him more honest and more reliable than any other politician.

His energy and stamina he has in the face of lawfare, media lies and personal attacks is incredible. I can't imagine anyone else being able to withstand what he has endured.

The man is a monolith, several TV shows (Morning Joe, Racheal maddow, the View, joy Ried and many more) are all based on demonizing Trump yet he still wins the presidency. That is just unbelievable, nothing like that even comes close.

Just look at how the media attacks anyone that comes close to Trump, now that is criminal.

It is not the media but 45’s own actions that decisively undermine the characterisation you've tried to present.

The media merely reported on them.

Was it the media’s fault that 45 cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar and then attempted to buy her silence?

Is it the media’s fault that 45 habitually lies, about himself, his achievements, his plans, pledges, promises, or even the present state of affairs?

Should the media be blamed for his tendency to opt for the laziest, most superficial path to accomplish anything, often resorting to fabrications to mask his failure, because he lacks the discipline or commitment to pursue anything beyond a staged photo op?

Is it the media’s fault that 45 chooses to trust the word of Putin over the assessments of his own intelligence agencies?

At some point, accountability for his actions must fall on 45 himself. If you refuse to hold him to account and instead continue to make excuses for his conduct, it begins to look like this:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

If they struggle to identify any flaws, or worse, excuse actions that are patently indefensible...it’s fair to suggest that they may be exhibiting the opposite bias and suffer from TDS themselves.

I'm sorry to inform you friend, but you appear to be suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Was it Trumps fault the DNC paid a foreign agent to produce a false dossier and give it to the FBI.
Just think about that, Hillary Clinton paid C Steele hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce a false document that she then gave to the FBI to influence an election which cost the American taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. You brush over that like it never happened.

Is it Trumps fault that even today the media promote a lie that Trump called neo nazis fine people. This has been proven false countless times yet the media still say it.

Is it Trumps fault the media lied for four years about Russian collusion.

Is it Trumps fault the media lied about Trump saying Cheney should be put before a firing squad.

The list of media lies about Trump is massive and I could go on for ages but you should have a grasp of it by now. To say the media merely reported them sort of highlights what TDS really is.

And do you still think Hunters laptop is russian influence, you know the one where 50 intelligence officials informed the public during an election to influence the voters. This to has been proven to be a lie.

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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #10 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:16pm

Leroy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:12pm:

Was it Trumps fault the DNC paid a foreign agent to produce a false dossier and give it to the FBI.
Just think about that, Hillary Clinton paid C Steele hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce a false document that she then gave to the FBI to influence an election which cost the American taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. You brush over that like it never happened.

Is it Trumps fault that even today the media promote a lie that Trump called neo nazis fine people. This has been proven false countless times yet the media still say it.

Is it Trumps fault the media lied for four years about Russian collusion.

Is it Trumps fault the media lied about Trump saying Cheney should be put before a firing squad.

So, all those factors you’ve listed, are they the ones controlling Trump, compelling him to take the actions I described?

Are you suggesting he’s just a puppet?

If so, who’s pulling the strings?

The Democrats?

Is Biden secretly running the show?

You're deflecting from Trump's actions, making excuses for them.

You have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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The list of media lies about Trump is massive and I could go on for ages but you should have a grasp of it by now. To say the media merely reported them sort of highlights what TDS really is.

I'm not doubting the media engaged in those tactics, I never said that they didn't, I've simply highlighted those instances where they simply reported what Trump did.

If you have a problem with that, I suggest you don't blame the media, but hold Trump to account.

You've chosen to make excuses for him and shift the blame.

TDS.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137490 Gender:	Re: Will there ever be a vaccine Reply #11 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:25pm Leroy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm: Trump has flaws, a human trait we all share. Indeed, we all have flaws. But Trump is a rapist and convicted felon - certainly not a trait that I share with him. You?
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Re: Will there ever be a vaccine
Reply #12 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:30pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

I'm not doubting the media engaged in those tactics, I never said that they didn't, I've simply highlighted those instances where they simply reported what Trump did.

The media did not simply report what Trump did, they lied and made up stories that were not true. They fed false information knowingly to the public to demonize and undermine Trump.

The FBI spied on Trumps campaign under Obama, Clinton is guilty of far worse crimes than anyone, she paid a foreign agent to undermine a presidential candidate. The media lied and lied about Trump to try and influence the public to believe lies that they manufactured which lead to people suffering from TDS.

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Leroy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 516 Gender:	Re: Will there ever be a vaccine Reply #13 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:25pm: Leroy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2024 at 1:51pm: Trump has flaws, a human trait we all share. Indeed, we all have flaws. But Trump is a rapist and convicted felon - certainly not a trait that I share with him. You? Love the guy, so sorry I'm in the majority.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48256 Gender:	Re: Will there ever be a vaccine Reply #14 - Dec 5^th, 2024 at 6:38pm And the lies came undone for the Democrats (like France) and the Media (like Italy) out of fear of Trump (like Great Britain). Because they are indeed corrupt and couldn't hide it where and when it mattered most. The People of America and the leaders of the world have spoken. TRUMP IS GREAT AGAIN.
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