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Re: Biden Should Pardon Trump and Jan 6 Rioters
Reply #45 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 10:36am
 
KangAnon wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 10:14am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 7:58am:
He should then grant a blanket pardon to all the Jan 6 rioters.

This would return balance to the public's sense of justice and fairness that the pardoning of Hunter Biden has skewed.


I strongly disagree with that perspective.

The Democrats must abandon their outdated fixation on playing by the rules and start taking cues from the Republican playbook. The so-called norms, decorum, process, and tradition, are mere obstacles to the Republicans, discarded whenever they impede their agenda.

The Democrats, and even the ALP here in Australia, gain nothing by clinging to the moral high ground or "doing the right thing."

There is no value in losing an election simply to have some historian in 100 years reading through the history books and seeing that Labor or the Dems ran an honourable yet losing campaign.

It's time they step into the fray, get their hands dirty, and meet their opponents on their own ruthless terms.

We all know 45 was destined to exploit every ounce of power the moment he set foot in office. Why, then, should Biden and the Democrats refrain from wielding power just as unapologetically?

As for the hollow outrage from the hypocrites who decry these tactics, it deserves neither sympathy nor consideration. Their performative indignation carries no weight, it is nothing more than noise.

It's almost like some posters here who will complain that you're not answering their questions or engaging with them in a good-faith discussion when they've been abusive the whole time and don't ever answer any questions put to them.  It is especially delicious watching them meltdown when having to face someone treating them exactly how they treat others, throwing their own behaviour back in their face.

We're in exactly the same place now with those complaining about what Biden has done.  You'd support 45 doing it, so I don't care what you have to say about Biden.


Stuff and nonsense. The MAGA party and its friends stand for law and order. How do we know?

Leroy said.

Leroy wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:57pm:
Trump can do what he likes, give himself a pardon from 1920 to 2090, his children can spend the next four years breaking any law they want and he can just pardon them.

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Re: Biden Should Pardon Trump and Jan 6 Rioters
Reply #46 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 11:52am
 
KangAnon wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 10:15am:
Leroy wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:57pm:
Trump can do what he likes, give himself a pardon from 1920 to 2090, his children can spend the next four years breaking any law they want and he can just pardon them.

Changing of the guard and now its Trump turn to take what he wants, he may even end up as rich as Clintons, Obama, Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrat millionaires.

Democrats can't complain, I don't think any of them are worth less than $150 mil. I think Pelosi is the most wealthy (still earning) but I'm not sure, Nader or Shiff could be wildcards because they don't flash their wealth. Clintons stand out as probably the biggest recipients of hard earned cash.


45 was always going to act this way, nothing Biden did or didn’t do would have made the slightest difference.

It’s time the Democrats stopped pretending the old rules matter and started fighting as ruthlessly as 45.

Good on Biden for finally showing the backbone to play their game.


Exactly!

It was a good move.
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Re: Biden Should Pardon Trump and Jan 6 Rioters
Reply #47 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 2:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 11:52am:
KangAnon wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 10:15am:
Leroy wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:57pm:
Trump can do what he likes, give himself a pardon from 1920 to 2090, his children can spend the next four years breaking any law they want and he can just pardon them.

Changing of the guard and now its Trump turn to take what he wants, he may even end up as rich as Clintons, Obama, Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrat millionaires.

Democrats can't complain, I don't think any of them are worth less than $150 mil. I think Pelosi is the most wealthy (still earning) but I'm not sure, Nader or Shiff could be wildcards because they don't flash their wealth. Clintons stand out as probably the biggest recipients of hard earned cash.


45 was always going to act this way, nothing Biden did or didn’t do would have made the slightest difference.

It’s time the Democrats stopped pretending the old rules matter and started fighting as ruthlessly as 45.

Good on Biden for finally showing the backbone to play their game.


Exactly!

It was a good move.


The SM plays by the "rules of the game itself", Greggery. He's a little bit naughty.

Where would we be if Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon?

I think it's a smart move.
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Reply #48 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:14pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 8:59pm:
But to the topic - Why would anyone pardon this criminal monster. There is simply no case for doing so.

Given Biden's about-face on the pardoning of his son - thus flattening the Democrat's moral high ground - he has handed Trump the grounds for doing the same for the Jan 6 rioters and, ultimately, himself; dragging the presidential moral decline, in the use of the constitutional power to pardon, down to its logical conclusion - the power to pardon the pardoner.

By pardoning Trump and the Jan 6 rioters, Biden would restore some of the lost moral high ground by rebalancing a sense of justice and fairness and, using Ford's rationale over Nixon, closing and sealing the book of grievances and chaos, that has plagued the presidency for 8 years, for the good of the country.


Trump just does what he wants anyway - cant blame that on Joe. Trump already said he would pardon his Jan 6th co- insurrectionists
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Reply #49 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:23pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 8:59pm:
But to the topic - Why would anyone pardon this criminal monster. There is simply no case for doing so.

Given Biden's about-face on the pardoning of his son - thus flattening the Democrat's moral high ground - he has handed Trump the grounds for doing the same for the Jan 6 rioters and, ultimately, himself; dragging the presidential moral decline, in the use of the constitutional power to pardon, down to its logical conclusion - the power to pardon the pardoner.

By pardoning Trump and the Jan 6 rioters, Biden would restore some of the lost moral high ground by rebalancing a sense of justice and fairness and, using Ford's rationale over Nixon, closing and sealing the book of grievances and chaos, that has plagued the presidency for 8 years, for the good of the country.


Trump just does what he wants anyway - cant blame that on Joe. Trump already said he would pardon his Jan 6th co- insurrectionists fellow Patriots.




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Reply #50 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:14pm:
Trump already said he would pardon his Jan 6th co- insurrectionists

All the more reason to preempt him.
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Re: Biden Should Pardon Trump and Jan 6 Rioters
Reply #51 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 9:01pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:27pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 8:14pm:
Trump already said he would pardon his Jan 6th co- insurrectionists

All the more reason to preempt him.


He should double their sentence and throw Trump in with them where he belongs.
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Reply #52 - Dec 6th, 2024 at 10:16pm
 
President Trump and the people that protested the stolen 2020 election should be exonerated, not pardoned. It is now known the FBI planted agitators in the crowd, who were the ones that committed most of the destructive behavior. Remember Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox for showing video of Capital Police conducting tours and the alleged insurrectionists staying inside the velvet ropes during those tours.

Biden is considering Pardoning government officials who haven't yet been charged with any crime but must have committed serious ones.
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