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Reply #15 - Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:00pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 12:38pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

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Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
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A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

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Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

It would depend on which juristiction filed the charges....It makes sense for local law enforcement to enforce laws against illegal immmigrants....Trump needs to allocate more funds and resources to ensure other crimes are not neglected!!!

Here you go, Panther, Phil has a supplementary.

Phil, can you advise on how Mr Trump can allocate law enforcement funds without Congressional say so?

Next, can you explain how he can overturn all state laws, policies and procedures according to Panther"s beloved Constitution?

Cheers.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58542 Here Gender:	Re: ►►► Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws ◀◀◀ Reply #16 - Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:50pm Quote: Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws Sounds like someone worded Trump up to what a disaster this would be. Looks like a silly plan that nobody would expect to work.
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Reply #17 - Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

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Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws

Sounds like someone worded Trump up to what a disaster this would be. Looks like a silly plan that nobody would expect to work.

I don't see why not, Dnarever. Why won't all those silly Sanctuary Cities just defer to Panther's DL and give into his cunning plan?

Come come. There's no need for Congressional funds or secret powers or any of that nonsense. The leftards can just redeploy their boys in blue from fighting crime to hunting down illegals.

Great Replacement theory, innit. It may not happen overnight, Dnarever, but it will happen, no?

SEND THEM BACK !!!

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84592 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: ►►► Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws ◀◀◀ Reply #18 - Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:09pm Round 'em up .... and head 'em out!!
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95783 Gender:	Re: ►►► Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws ◀◀◀ Reply #19 - Dec 28^th, 2024 at 11:30pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:09pm: Round 'em up .... and head 'em out!! https://media.tenor.com/TrAT4cAT-ZQAAAAM/herding-the-cowboy-way.gif Kill them.
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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 2:12pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

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Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws

Sounds like someone worded Trump up to what a disaster this would be. Looks like a silly plan that nobody would expect to work.

I don't see why not, Dnarever. Why won't all those silly Sanctuary Cities just defer to Panther's DL and give into his cunning plan?

Come come. There's no need for Congressional funds or secret powers or any of that nonsense. The leftards can just redeploy their boys in blue from fighting crime to hunting down illegals.

Great Replacement theory, innit. It may not happen overnight, Dnarever, but it will happen, no?

SEND THEM BACK !!!

No the issue is those red states where an understaffed underpaid struggling Sheriff and his deputy will be expected to deport 1.2 million Illegals in their spare time. Realistically if they try to cut back on their road piracy their city will go broke.

The concept is flawed by design and it needs to fail in order to save the economy. It is likely flawed by design deliberately. These Sheriff's will deport 15 people and Trump will claim success the illegals will keep working the farms and factories and the economy is saved. Everyone wins. Except for Honesty the truth and integrity. All key Republican anti-values.

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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 3:41pm

Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 2:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

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Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws

Sounds like someone worded Trump up to what a disaster this would be. Looks like a silly plan that nobody would expect to work.

I don't see why not, Dnarever. Why won't all those silly Sanctuary Cities just defer to Panther's DL and give into his cunning plan?

Come come. There's no need for Congressional funds or secret powers or any of that nonsense. The leftards can just redeploy their boys in blue from fighting crime to hunting down illegals.

Great Replacement theory, innit. It may not happen overnight, Dnarever, but it will happen, no?

SEND THEM BACK !!!

No the issue is those red states where an understaffed underpaid struggling Sheriff and his deputy will be expected to deport 1.2 million Illegals in his spare time. Realistically if they try to cut back on their road piracy their city will go broke.

The concept is flawed by design and it needs to fail in order to save the economy. It is likely a flawed by design policy deliberately. These Sheriff's will deport 15 people and Trump will claim success the illegals will keep working the farms and factories and the economy is saved. Everyone wins. Except for Honest the truth and integrity. All key Republican anti-values.

Oh, I know. The Republicans aren't big fans.

Each to his own, no?

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Reply #22 - Yesterday at 3:56pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 3:41pm:

Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 2:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

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Local Sheriffs to Enforce Immigration Laws

Sounds like someone worded Trump up to what a disaster this would be. Looks like a silly plan that nobody would expect to work.

I don't see why not, Dnarever. Why won't all those silly Sanctuary Cities just defer to Panther's DL and give into his cunning plan?

Come come. There's no need for Congressional funds or secret powers or any of that nonsense. The leftards can just redeploy their boys in blue from fighting crime to hunting down illegals.

Great Replacement theory, innit. It may not happen overnight, Dnarever, but it will happen, no?

SEND THEM BACK !!!

No the issue is those red states where an understaffed underpaid struggling Sheriff and his deputy will be expected to deport 1.2 million Illegals in his spare time. Realistically if they try to cut back on their road piracy their city will go broke.

The concept is flawed by design and it needs to fail in order to save the economy. It is likely a flawed by design policy deliberately. These Sheriff's will deport 15 people and Trump will claim success the illegals will keep working the farms and factories and the economy is saved. Everyone wins. Except for Honesty the truth and integrity. All key Republican anti-values.

Oh, I know. The Republicans aren't big fans.

Each to his own, no?

Added Elmo's letter for the day - 'Y'.

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Reply #23 - Yesterday at 6:03pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

..

Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
Quote:

A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

..

Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

Panther, is this correct? Can the White House take over county and state police departments?

We'll need your advice on this one if you don't mind. Frank is of the opinion that Sleepy Joe can order Greg Abbott around. Supremacy Clause, innit.

What does your Constitution have to say on the matter?

Cheers.

What IS wrong with you, pantaloon sniffer?

Federal law takes precedent over state law in every federation. In the US, Oz, Germany, Canada.

Immigration is a federal responsibility in each case.

What the bloody hell are you grimacingabout idiotically this time?

Do some expressive tapdancing and Pakistani ululation for us.

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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 9:49pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

..

Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
Quote:

A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

..

Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

Panther, is this correct? Can the White House take over county and state police departments?

We'll need your advice on this one if you don't mind. Frank is of the opinion that Sleepy Joe can order Greg Abbott around. Supremacy Clause, innit.

What does your Constitution have to say on the matter?

Cheers.

What IS wrong with you, pantaloon sniffer?

I see. Don't want to say, eh?

Panther? The old boy appears to have gone all shy.

You?

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Reply #25 - Yesterday at 10:49pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

..

Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
Quote:

A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

..

Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

Panther, is this correct? Can the White House take over county and state police departments?

We'll need your advice on this one if you don't mind. Frank is of the opinion that Sleepy Joe can order Greg Abbott around. Supremacy Clause, innit.

What does your Constitution have to say on the matter?

Cheers.

What IS wrong with you, pantaloon sniffer?

Federal law takes precedent over state law in every federation. In the US, Oz, Germany, Canada.

Immigration is a federal responsibility in each case.

What the bloody hell are you grimacingabout idiotically this time?

Do some expressive tapdancing and Pakistani ululation for us.

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take precedence over state laws.

Didn't the supreme court take Abortion away from federal and put it in staste. There are many laws that belong to the states.

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Reply #26 - Yesterday at 10:55pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

..

Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
Quote:

A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

..

Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

Panther, is this correct? Can the White House take over county and state police departments?

We'll need your advice on this one if you don't mind. Frank is of the opinion that Sleepy Joe can order Greg Abbott around. Supremacy Clause, innit.

What does your Constitution have to say on the matter?

Cheers.

What IS wrong with you, pantaloon sniffer?

Federal law takes precedent over state law in every federation. In the US, Oz, Germany, Canada.

Immigration is a federal responsibility in each case.

What the bloody hell are you grimacingabout idiotically this time?

Do some expressive tapdancing and Pakistani ululation for us.

Quote:

Immigration is a federal responsibility

So it's not for local sheriffs to enforce?

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Reply #27 - Yesterday at 11:23pm

Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 10:55pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 6:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 28^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 1:17am:

Panther wrote on Dec 6^th, 2024 at 12:11pm:

..

Local sheriffs seen playing key role in mass deportation plan:
Homan warns sanctuary mayors

Source: World Tribune
Quote:

A large number of America’s sheriffs see President-elect Donald Trump’s victory as a mandate to get tough on illegal immigration.

“Many conservative sheriffs across the U.S., from Texas to California to redder swaths of the northeast, now stand ready to be force multipliers for ICE and its 6,000 agents,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Nov. 28.
Tom Homan / C-SPAN

Chuck Jenkins, the longtime Republican sheriff in Maryland’s Frederick County, where voters went for Democrats in the last two presidential elections, said he is willing support Trump’s immigration policies “100%.”

“I want to do more, within the law,” the Journal cited Jenkins as saying............

..

Local law enforcement, is it? What does your beloved Constitution have to say about federal powers usurping state law, Panther?

I'm curious.

Exact opposite, it’s the State supporting Federal law.
Nowhere does it say thar a State should not support Federal laws.

Yes Sir, but I'm asking Panther how the Feds can dictate the policies and procedures of local law enforcement. I'm wondering what the Constitution has to say about this.

You?

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution establishes that federal laws and the Constitution are the "supreme Law of the Land" and take precedence over state laws. This means that state courts are bound by federal law, and state constitutions are subordinate to it.

Panther, is this correct? Can the White House take over county and state police departments?

We'll need your advice on this one if you don't mind. Frank is of the opinion that Sleepy Joe can order Greg Abbott around. Supremacy Clause, innit.

What does your Constitution have to say on the matter?

Cheers.

What IS wrong with you, pantaloon sniffer?

Federal law takes precedent over state law in every federation. In the US, Oz, Germany, Canada.

Immigration is a federal responsibility in each case.

What the bloody hell are you grimacingabout idiotically this time?

Do some expressive tapdancing and Pakistani ululation for us.

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Immigration is a federal responsibility

So it's not for local sheriffs to enforce?

We'd better seek legal advice. We'll ask our resident constitutional expert.

Panther, does your proud constitution task local sheriffs with locking up the invading hoards?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Reply #28 - Yesterday at 11:32pm

Karnal wrote Yesterday at 11:23pm:

We'd better seek legal advice. We'll ask our resident constitutional expert.

Panther, does your proud constitution task local sheriffs with locking up the invading hoards?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I'm not a legal expert or even close but I would think the local sheriffs would receive a request from the federal agency to apprehend subjects and then the feds collect them up from the lock up.

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