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Reply #105 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 6:32am
 
Yes - everyone just loved being invaded by Mussos.....
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Reply #106 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:50am
 
Former US president Bill Clinton on Wednesday said young people in America today “can’t believe” that late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat walked away from a Palestinian state during peace negotiations with Israel under his mediation as president.

Clinton added, in reference to the failed Camp David talks of 2000, that having turned down a “once in a lifetime” peace opportunity, “you can’t complain 25 years later when the doors weren’t all still open, and all the possibilities weren’t still there.”

“I think what’s happened there in the last twenty-five years is one of the great tragedies of the twenty-first century,” Clinton told New York Times journalist Andrew Ross Sorkin, in an interview for the newspaper’s DealBook Summit, promoting his new book, “Citizen: My Life After The White House.”

The Times posted a video of the interview to its New York Times Events+ YouTube channel; the video was removed on Thursday, but re-uploaded shortly thereafter.

“All [young people in America] know that a lot more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis. And I tell them what Arafat walked away from, and they, like, can’t believe it,” said the former commander-in-chief.

Arafat “walked away from a Palestinian state, with a capital in East Jerusalem, 96% of the West Bank, 4% of Israel to make up for the 4% [of the West Bank to be annexed for Israeli settlements],” Clinton elaborated, repeating an account of the Oslo peace negotiations, to which the ex-president has returned repeatedly in recent interviews and remarks.



“I go through all the stuff that was in the deal, and they, like – it’s not on their radar screen, they can’t even imagine that happened,” Clinton went on, describing his conversations with young Americans upset over the death toll in Gaza in the latest war.

The former US president also noted the sacrifice made by Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated by a Jewish extremist in Israel over his support for the peace process.

“I tell them, you know, the first and most famous victim of an attempt to get the Palestinians a state was prime minister Rabin, whom I think I loved as much as I ever loved another man,” Clinton said, repeating a phrase he has often used to describe his relationship with the late Israeli leader.

You walk away from these once in a lifetime peace opportunities, and you can’t complain twenty-five years later when the doors weren’t all still open, and all the possibilities weren’t still there. You can’t do it,” Clinton said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bill-clinton-young-americans-shocked-to-learn-araf...
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Reply #107 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:11am
 
Good post Frank
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Reply #108 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:56am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
With Netanyahu carrying out a continuing genocide against Gazan women and children,
while claiming the ICC is
"anti-semitic"
...





Of COURSE, it needs to be realised that ANY government or world leader that criticizes
Zionism, Netanyahu - and the IDF
- are
"anti-semites"


The ONLY member of any government I've heard speak out against the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza - has been our own Foreign Minister,
Penny Wong
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She'll do Australia fine, one day, as our first Malaysian born - and second only female Prime Minister



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Re: Judeophobia in Australia
Reply #109 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:01am
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:11am:
Good post Frank



It wasn't
Frank
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It was a copy and paste from
"The Bethlehem Bugle"



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Reply #110 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:04am
 
So Buzz and her boyfriend Penny support Terrorism
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Reply #111 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:05am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:56am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
With Netanyahu carrying out a continuing genocide against Gazan women and children,
while claiming the ICC is
"anti-semitic"
...




She'll do Australia fine, one day, as our first Malaysian born - and second only female Prime Minister[/size]


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Reply #112 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:06am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:56am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
With Netanyahu carrying out a continuing genocide against Gazan women and children,
while claiming the ICC is
"anti-semitic"
...




She'll do Australia fine, one day, as our first Malaysian born - and second only female Prime Minister[/size]


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Again,

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Re: Judeophobia in Australia
Reply #113 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:17am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:06am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:56am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 6th, 2024 at 1:14pm:
With Netanyahu carrying out a continuing genocide against Gazan women and children,
while claiming the ICC is
"anti-semitic"
...




She'll do Australia fine, one day, as our first Malaysian born - and second only female Prime Minister

.


Again








Oh DEAR - has
"little franky"
lost his abacus ?


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Reply #114 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 10:28am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:50am:
Former US president Bill Clinton on Wednesday said young people in America today “can’t believe” that late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat walked away from a Palestinian state during peace negotiations with Israel under his mediation as president.

Clinton added, in reference to the failed Camp David talks of 2000, that having turned down a “once in a lifetime” peace opportunity, “you can’t complain 25 years later when the doors weren’t all still open, and all the possibilities weren’t still there.”

“I think what’s happened there in the last twenty-five years is one of the great tragedies of the twenty-first century,” Clinton told New York Times journalist Andrew Ross Sorkin, in an interview for the newspaper’s DealBook Summit, promoting his new book, “Citizen: My Life After The White House.”

The Times posted a video of the interview to its New York Times Events+ YouTube channel; the video was removed on Thursday, but re-uploaded shortly thereafter.

“All [young people in America] know that a lot more Palestinians have been killed than Israelis. And I tell them what Arafat walked away from, and they, like, can’t believe it,” said the former commander-in-chief.

Arafat “walked away from a Palestinian state, with a capital in East Jerusalem, 96% of the West Bank, 4% of Israel to make up for the 4% [of the West Bank to be annexed for Israeli settlements],” Clinton elaborated, repeating an account of the Oslo peace negotiations, to which the ex-president has returned repeatedly in recent interviews and remarks.



“I go through all the stuff that was in the deal, and they, like – it’s not on their radar screen, they can’t even imagine that happened,” Clinton went on, describing his conversations with young Americans upset over the death toll in Gaza in the latest war.

The former US president also noted the sacrifice made by Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated by a Jewish extremist in Israel over his support for the peace process.

“I tell them, you know, the first and most famous victim of an attempt to get the Palestinians a state was prime minister Rabin, whom I think I loved as much as I ever loved another man,” Clinton said, repeating a phrase he has often used to describe his relationship with the late Israeli leader.

You walk away from these once in a lifetime peace opportunities, and you can’t complain twenty-five years later when the doors weren’t all still open, and all the possibilities weren’t still there. You can’t do it,” Clinton said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bill-clinton-young-americans-shocked-to-learn-araf...






36 minute mark - How Arafat walked away from creating a Palestinian state.

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Re: Judeophobia in Australia
Reply #115 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 11:08am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 6:32am:
Yes - everyone just loved being invaded by Mussos.....




Give a thought to the MASSIVE grabs by Israel of Palestinian homelands, since the state of Israel was created by the UN in 1948.
This Israel "state" was created by giving away half of Palestine to placate Zionist politics.
SINCE 1948, Israel has permanently seized around 90% of remaining Palestine - and has the remaining Gaza Strip. West Bank and Golan Heights under illegal Zionist/IDF military occupation.
The world has turned a blind eye to this - with Hamas the only force to speak up FOR them.



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Reply #116 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 11:49am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 6:32am:
Yes - everyone just loved being invaded by Mussos.....




Give a thought to the MASSIVE grabs by Israel of Palestinian homelands, since the state of Israel was created by the UN in 1948.
This Israel "state" was created by giving away half of Palestine to placate Zionist politics.
SINCE 1948, Israel has permanently seized around 90% of remaining Palestine - and has the remaining Gaza Strip. West Bank and Golan Heights under illegal Zionist/IDF military occupation.
The world has turned a blind eye to this - with Hamas the only force to speak up FOR them.



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Not taking sides and I mean anyone of the 450 different sides, but everything can be punched, counter punched and then rehashed.


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The status of Jewish citizens in Arab states worsened during the 1948 Israeli-Arab war. Anti-Jewish riots erupted throughout the Arab World in December 1947, and Jewish communities were hit particularly hard in Aleppo and British-controlled Aden, with hundreds of dead and injured. In Libya, Jews were deprived of citizenship, and in Iraq, their property was seized.[needs context][45] Egypt expelled most of its foreign community, including Jews, after the Suez War in 1956,[46] while Algeria denied its French citizens, including Jews, of citizenship upon its independence in 1962.[47] Over the course of twenty years, some 850,000 Jews from Arab countries immigrated to Israel and other countries
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Reply #117 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:14pm
 
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Yes - everyone just loved being invaded by Mussos.....


No they didn't , but those were the days of 'might is right'...

Since 1945 'the aquisition of territory by force is inadmissible', but the UN has not been able to prevent use of force, because the UNSC was crippled from its inception by the veto. 

But the moral force of the UN is growing in the face of hideous wars, gaining more and more support around the world,  with UNGA votes regularly exceeding four to one against the particular war. 
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Reply #118 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:50pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:11am:
Good post Frank


Not so fast with the congratulations:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#:~:text=Clinton%20and%20Bar...

(At  Camp David negotiations in the year 2000, between Clinton, Barak, and Arafat).

Clinton and Barak insisted that the entire area be placed under Israeli sovereignty, while Palestinians could have "custodianship". Arafat insisted on Palestinian sovereignty over the Haram (the Temple Mount to Jews). As this deadlock could not be resolved, the summit ended.

Proving the proper solution for sovereignty of Jerusalem was outlined in UN res 181**  (in 1947), because Jews (in 2000) would NOT accept divided sovereignty in Jerusalem (whatever "custodianship" means) whereas the PLO would.

The illegal settlers also "offered"  a land swap so they could remain in the existing  illegal WB settlements established after the 1967 war, an "offer"  which would result in the 'swiss cheese' Palestinian state with the IDF guarding the corridors to the illegal settlements (ie illegal under international law).  Rabin had been murdered by a Jewish zealot only 5 years earlier, for agreeing to give up israeli occupied land, as identified in the Oslo Accords.    

The article also notes that:

"Reports of the outcome of the summit have been described as illustrating the Rashomon effect, in which the multiple witnesses gave contradictory and self-serving interpretations.[3][4][5][6] After the summit, the Israeli narrative was widely accepted by the American media, which sought to cast Arafat as a villain and that Palestinians did not want peace.[7] That narrative lead to the decline of the Israeli peace movement.[/b]

Ah...the lying Israeli bastards easily manipulating a biased American media ...after all, "we offered them swiss cheese and "custodianship" - what's not to like ....

**UN res 181 proposed UN sovereignty over Jerusalem, allowing for open access to the city by all peoples. But the UN proposal doesn't take into account the hideous outcomes of dogmatic religious zealotry...)





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Reply #119 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:52pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
Jasin wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:11am:
Good post Frank


Not so fast with the congratulations:

wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#:~:text=Clinton%20and%20Bar...

(At  Camp David negotiations in the year 2000, between Clinton, Barak, and Arafat.

Clinton and Barak insisted that the entire area be placed under Israeli sovereignty, while Palestinians could have "custodianship". Arafat insisted on Palestinian sovereignty over the Haram (the Temple Mount to Jews). As this deadlock could not be resolved, the summit ended.

Proving the proper solution for sovereignty of Jerusalem was outlined in UN res 181  (in 1947), because Jews (in 2000) would NOT accept divided sovereignty in Jerusalem (whatever "custodianship" means) whereas the PLO would. The illegal settlers also "offered"  a land swap so they could remain in the existing  illegal WB settlements.   

The article also notes that:

"Reports of the outcome of the summit have been described as illustrating the Rashomon effect, in which the multiple witnesses gave[b] contradictory and self-serving interpretations.[/b][3][4][5][6] After the summit, the Israeli narrative was widely accepted by the American media, which sought to cast Arafat as a villain and that Palestinians did not want peace.[7] That narrative lead to the decline of the Israeli peace movement.

Ah...the lying bastards....






My posts are about what Clinton says and thinks.

Why did Arafat reject Palestinian statehood?

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