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Dec 7th, 2024 at 10:57am
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:11am
 
Three score and a coupla years ago...

You know they're getting desperate when they have to reach back into a lifetime ago to find any real problems.

This is 2024 ... Aboriginal children are still suffering neglect and abuse in far greater numbers and are being removed for their own safety at far greater numbers - try to stick to the issues instead of plucking the heart-strings over one woman years ago.

Perhaps you could support the introduction of a Homeland, leave 'em do do things their way.
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Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:25am
 

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

George Santayana
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Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2024 at 12:07pm
 
They who live in the past forget the present.

Seorge Gantayana.
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Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2024 at 1:04pm
 

"History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce"

Karl Marx
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Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2024 at 1:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 1:04pm:
"History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce"

Karl Marx



Which, of course, is not what Marx wrote.  But you yawn repetitously like the farceur you are.


Hegel says somewhere that that great historic facts and personages recur twice. He forgot to add: “Once as tragedy, and again as farce.” Caussidiere for Danton, Louis Blanc for Robespierre, the “Mountain” of 1848-51 for the “Mountain” of 1793-05, the Nephew for the Uncle. The identical caricature marks also the conditions under which the second edition of the eighteenth Brumaire is issued.
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1346/pg1346-images.html

Anyway, Marx pinched the idea, unacknowledged, from Engels:

"It really seems as though old Hegel, in the guise of the World Spirit, were directing history from the grave and, with the greatest conscientiousness, causing everything to be re-enacted twice over, once as grand tragedy and the second time as rotten farce, Caussidière for Danton, L. Blanc for Robespierre, Barthélemy for Saint-Just, Flocon for Carnot, and the moon-calf together with the first available dozen debt-encumbered lieutenants for the little corporal and his band of marshals. Thus the 18th Brumaire would already be upon us."



NOT something you can say about Aboriginal history, anyway.
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Reply #8 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 6:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:25am:
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

George Santayana

Well said, Brian.
Back in 1960 I was a Station Assistant (Reliving) on the NSW Railways, first at Delungra, which.wasn’t racit, there were one or two Aboriginal people about but it was a very small town. Next was Mungindi which was a mixture of both people,
Never saw any segregation except at the pictures where people tended to congregate in racial groups, because they were friends or family members.
As the place filled up vacant seats would be taken regardless of pigmentation of those around and nothing but smiles all round if the lights were still up.
Used to go hunting with a couple of the local tribsmen who also worked on the railway and after work we’d have a swim in our private swimming pool, the elevated cast iron water tank of the steam era.

Next was Pokataroo, no discrimination against anyone, only two of us, the SM and me.

Then I got dragged to Moree [my home station, so no living away from home allowance] I found out two significant things there, 1st that the other bloke on relief was a local and never left home even though there were blokes screaming out for a relief so they could have a holiday. This rankled.
The bloke I worked with for the day was a hard worker who never shirked the tough loading jobs in the goods shed, we got on well and when we knocked off I suggested that he come across to the baths for a swim.
‘’Can’t.mate, l’m barred.’’
‘’What’d you do?’’
‘’Born with the wrong colour skin.’’
I then remembered a few things I’d heard, and here was the living proof.
Got in the car, my trusty 1929 Plymouth tourer and, forgoing due wages headed south and never went back till around 2008, things were even worse but the boot was now on the other foot.
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Reply #9 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:08am
 
Reliving Station Assistant ... sounds like a book.  Them days was different... it's a disgrace that people were refused entry to pools etc... but them was the days.

Now then - what about this Infitada out there.... how do you think that will finish up?  Darwin Has Fallen - Brisbane Has Fallen.... the rest are on the same path ....... all this Heroic Resistance is going to achieve is greater numbers in prison, dispersion across the land, and eventually a Two State Solution which will fit in perfectly with the current Labor-led social science driven ideas about Land Enclosures 2024+ to create private spiritual retreats and hunting lodges for tiny groups of mostly white 'Aborigines' who never even go there, but then - that is the essence of total possession of land that is national park etc, isn't it?

What is the value of preferentially 'owning' land if you actually have to BE there all the time?  King Chorles isn't in BALMORAL year round, is he?  The First Fleet didn't even claim the whole lot... nor did they occupy more than a tiny footprint... yet they 'owned' the land for Britain...... same here with Aboriginal Imperial Silliness Outdated in 2024.  Imperial Tribal Silliness is now out of date - it's 2024.... not 1787.

Straight enough for some of yez to grasp?  Serial Invaders - the last lot just happened to have the power to retain control...... until modern day Labor and social sciences came along and dictated that our nation must change its national character to suit some airy-fairy idea in the sky of everyone worldwide being 'equal' in every way... no matter how much it costs in lives and blood and such.... thus stripping that Last Lot First Fleet Etc of power in what is now their own land.

Most societies worldwide are based on strict tribal/sect/caste lines - here we have 'soft tribalism' - it's called football an' cricket an stuff, The State Of Origin and up to The Bledisloe Cup and cricket Tests etc.... when for the last two guest workers are invited here to play cricket/Rugby!!

Is our form of 'soft tribalism' the equal of an African 'nation' in which two or more tribal groups fight to the death?  What about Arabia then?  Afghanistan?  Ancient tribal groups fighting to the death with extreme brutality are equal to the State of Origin in the Civilisation Stakes?

Wake Up!!   Cool
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Reply #10 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 10:09am
 
Just add to the above, Moree is the only town I’ve seen in Australia that has crash barriers in front of small general shops [there may be others].
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Reply #11 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 12:15pm
 
The article states that the Yumba Reserve had no water and no sewerage.

News flash - in 1968 I bet most residents would have still been using outback thunder boxes.

Only certain parts of the town might have had sewerage.
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Reply #12 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 12:23pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 10:09am:
Just add to the above, Moree is the only town I’ve seen in Australia that has crash barriers in front of small general shops [there may be others].


It's a load of bollards ...
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Reply #13 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 12:28pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 12:15pm:
The article states that the Yumba Reserve had no water and no sewerage.

News flash - in 1968 I bet most residents would have still been using outback thunder boxes.

Only certain parts of the town might have had sewerage.


Well - when you live that way............. a house with thunder box is still better than a creek with malarial water filled with kangaroo piss and another tribe squeezing out the turds upstream.

Gotta learn to move with the times....
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