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Evidence Suggests FDR Let Pearl Harbor Happen to Force America into WWII

83 years ago yesterday, America was brought into war with what was described then, and has been described consistently since, as a “sneak attack” by Imperial Japan.

Then-President Franklin Roosevelt gave a speech on December 8th before Congress where he described it as a “Day of Infamy” where America was suddenly and deliberately attacked.

What Roosevelt failed to mention is that he knew the attack was going to happen, the government had received copious warnings about what was going to happen, and those warnings were not only ignored but steps were taken to facilitate the Japanese attack.

A series of events and factual matters strongly suggest that Roosevelt not only wanted war, but employed his top officials to help him in that effort.

The Chief of Naval Operations, Lt. Cmdr. Arthur H. McCollum wrote the eight-action-points-memo on Oct. 7, 1940 to try to get Japan to attack the United States first.

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You can read the entire important McCollum memo about baiting Japan into war here. This memo was originally uncovered by historian Robert Stinnett (1924-2018) and published in his 1999 work, “Day of Deceit.” Here’s the key section:

IT IS NOT BELIEVE THAT IN THE PRESENT STATE OF POLITICAL OPINION THE UNITO STATES COVERNMENT IS CAPABLE OF OCCLARINO WAR AGAINST JAPAN WITHOUT MORE ADOS AND IT IS BARELY POSSIBLE THAT VIGOROUS ACTICN ON OUR PART MIGHT LEAO THE JAPANESE TO MODIFY THEIR AFTITUDE, THERCORE, THE POLLOWING
COURSE OF ACTION IS SUGGESTED:
A. MAKE AN ARRANSEMENT WITH BRITAIN FOR THE USE OF BRITISH BASES IN THE PACIFIO, PARTICULARLY
SINGAGPORE.
B. WAKE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH HOLLANO FOR THE USE OF BASE FACILITIES AND ACQUISITION OF SUPPLIES
IN THE DUTCH EAST INDIES.
C. GIVE ALL POSSIBLE AID TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT
oF CHIANG-KAI-SHEK. D. SENO A DIVISION OF LONG RANGE HEAVY CRUISERS TO
THE ORIENT, PHILIPPINES, OR SINGAPORE:
E• SENO TWO DIVISIONS OF SUBMARINES TO THE ORIENT. F. KEEP THE MAIN STRENGTH OF THE U.S. FLEET NOW IN THE PACIFIO IN THE VICINITY OF THE HAWAIIRN ISLAN G• INSIST THAT THE DUTCH REFUSE, TO GRANT JAPANESE OCMANDS FOR UNOVE COONOMIC CONCESSIONS, PARTI-
CULARLY 01k0 H. COMPLETELY EMBARGO ALL U,S, TRADE WITH JAPAN,
IN COLLABORATION WITH A SIMILAR EMBARDO IMPOSED
BY THE BRITISH EMPIRE.
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IF BY THESE MEANS JAPAN COULO BE LEO TO COMMIT AN
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MUCH THE OCTTER, AT ALL EVENTS WE MUST BE FULLY
PREPAREO TO
ACCEPT THE
THREAT OF wAR.

On October 10, 1940, Roosevelt brought in his Pacific commanders and informed them that he sought to go to war with Japan quietly and with economics. This left them ‘amazed’ according to later testimony by Admiral James O. Richardson.


We have been lied to our entire lives - Our history is nothing more than a set of lies agreed upon by those pulling the levers behind the curtains quietly running the world’s narrative..
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Reply #1 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 6:09am
 
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.. TELEGRAM RECEIVED
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1941
KD This telegram must be closely paraphrased be- TOTE being communicated
to anyone. (D)
Tokyo
Dated January 27, 1941
REo! d. 6:38 a.m. SEcrEtary of State,
Washington.
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ly Peruvian Colleague told a member oi my stuff that he had heard from many sources in-
cluding a JapanesE source that the Japanese military forces planned, in the event of trouble with the United States, to attempt a surprise naus
attack on Perrl Hroor using all of their military facilities. He added that although the project
sremed fantastic the fact that he had heard it
from many sources prompted him to pass on the
information.
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Reply #2 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:08am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 6:04am:
We have been lied to our entire lives - Our history is nothing more than a set of lies agreed upon by those pulling the levers behind the curtains quietly running the world’s narrative..

That story is as old as the war itself.

Roosevelt agreed with Churchill that the German Nazi government represented a serious, if not existential, threat to US interests and would have declared war on Germany at the same time, or soon after, as Britain and France did.

However, he faced an isolationist Congress and deep unpopularity among the American people, at the idea of being dragged into bloody European affairs again within less than one generation.

Japanese deep resentment of being thwarted by European powers in Southeast Asia, who imagined themselves as would-be liberators of the region from European colonisers - particularly the US, the British and the Dutch, was well known and Roosevelt was in no mood to appease them, even though appeasement was the flavour of the decade in 30s Europe.

Japanese overreach could not have come soon enough for Roosevelt.

Bearing in mind that, while he could not have known the extent of damage the Japanese would inflict on Pearl Harbour, he was most likely prepared to accept whatever damage it would take to turn Congress and the American people toward a total commitment to war - maybe even the Japanese occupation of Hawaii.
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Reply #3 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:24am
 
Not much of a speller, was he - this 'Chief Of Naval Operations Lieutenant Commander (Major)'..... just saying.
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Reply #4 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:52am
 
The infamy seems to be the un-gentlemanly conduct of Japan not declaring war before attacking. The Jap Navy left the Army out of the loop and the Jap embassy took all day to translate its declaration.  This was useful for US news spin.
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Reply #5 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:05am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:08am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 6:04am:
We have been lied to our entire lives - Our history is nothing more than a set of lies agreed upon by those pulling the levers behind the curtains quietly running the world’s narrative..

That story is as old as the war itself.

Roosevelt agreed with Churchill that the German Nazi government represented a serious, if not existential, threat to US interests and would have declared war on Germany at the same time, or soon after, as Britain and France did.

However, he faced an isolationist Congress and deep unpopularity among the American people, at the idea of being dragged into bloody European affairs again within less than one generation.

Japanese deep resentment of being thwarted by European powers in Southeast Asia, who imagined themselves as would-be liberators of the region from European colonisers - particularly the US, the British and the Dutch, was well known and Roosevelt was in no mood to appease them, even though appeasement was the flavour of the decade in 30s Europe.

Japanese overreach could not have come soon enough for Roosevelt.

Bearing in mind that, while he could not have known the extent of damage the Japanese would inflict on Pearl Harbour, he was most likely prepared to accept whatever damage it would take to turn Congress and the American people toward a total commitment to war - maybe even the Japanese occupation of Hawaii.


So this is the thing - he deliberately allowed an attack on the US and its citizens killing many…

He even put a stack of war ships in one bay which was against regulations …

And as you say - he did it to anger Americans and Congress so that he could go to war…

………………..

So here’s the thing - people should be outraged and rioting in the streets abouts this deception and traitorous actions

Nearly 2500 innocent people died on that day due to the actions of US government - followed by nearly half a million dead by wars end…

Once again - our history is nothing more that a set of lies agreed upon by scum who call themselves “elite”

US and UK businesses were selling hardware and fuels to both sides filling up their pockets while their countrymen died (not their own families though)

Everything is a rich mans trick…
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Now have a think about this..

How many “Events” have been “staged” in the last 120+ years so that the US could enter wars illegally and illegally enter a sovereign country to kill millions of innocent people and then take their wealth…

I’ll start… Vietnam was one… The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident..


Oh.. whats that other word im thinking of..  Undecided

Oh thats it - FALSE FLAG OPERATION

And here’s another question - how many times are we going to fall for it?
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Reply #7 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:25am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:05am:
So here’s the thing - people should be outraged and rioting in the streets abouts this deception and traitorous actions

Roosevelt hasn't been seen for interviews for some time. Nor Johnson. A couple of people did protest to Johnson about something. 
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Reply #8 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:33am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:05am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:08am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 6:04am:
We have been lied to our entire lives - Our history is nothing more than a set of lies agreed upon by those pulling the levers behind the curtains quietly running the world’s narrative..

That story is as old as the war itself.

Roosevelt agreed with Churchill that the German Nazi government represented a serious, if not existential, threat to US interests and would have declared war on Germany at the same time, or soon after, as Britain and France did.

However, he faced an isolationist Congress and deep unpopularity among the American people, at the idea of being dragged into bloody European affairs again within less than one generation.

Japanese deep resentment of being thwarted by European powers in Southeast Asia, who imagined themselves as would-be liberators of the region from European colonisers - particularly the US, the British and the Dutch, was well known and Roosevelt was in no mood to appease them, even though appeasement was the flavour of the decade in 30s Europe.

Japanese overreach could not have come soon enough for Roosevelt.

Bearing in mind that, while he could not have known the extent of damage the Japanese would inflict on Pearl Harbour, he was most likely prepared to accept whatever damage it would take to turn Congress and the American people toward a total commitment to war - maybe even the Japanese occupation of Hawaii.


So this is the thing - he deliberately allowed an attack on the US and its citizens killing many…

He even put a stack of war ships in one bay which was against regulations …

And as you say - he did it to anger Americans and Congress so that he could go to war…

………………..

So here’s the thing - people should be outraged and rioting in the streets abouts this deception and traitorous actions

Nearly 2500 innocent people died on that day due to the actions of US government - followed by nearly half a million dead by wars end…

Once again - our history is nothing more that a set of lies agreed upon by scum who call themselves “elite”

US and UK businesses were selling hardware and fuels to both sides filling up their pockets while their countrymen died (not their own families though)

Everything is a rich mans trick…

Nazi Germany was always destined to be a major existential threat to US interests.

Popular American isolationism was always destined to be a fool's errand.

An executive head of state or HOG does not have the luxury of taking the moral high ground of being dedicated to protecting every citizen always and everywhere at the cost of their nation's greater interests.

Congress and the American people quickly realised their mistake in allowing threats to US national interests to become so great that they posed, not just a threat to national interests, but a serious existential threat, as did the British people before them.

For example, what would have been the outcome had Germany, the leading nation in atomic science in the 30s, developed a nuclear weapon in, say, 1943?

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Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:46am
 
I think Roosevelt did turn a blind eye to the Japs but
many historians vigorously deny it.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Still - the Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor.

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Bobby. wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:46am:
I think Roosevelt did turn a blind eye to the Japs but
many historians vigorously deny it.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Still - the Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor.


Yes, we will never know.

However, Roosevelt did know that the Japanese were sabre-rattling and railing, throughout the 30s, against European colonial powers blocking their imperial expansion into Southeast Asia and the Pacific.

The world witnessed what Japan had done in Manchuria - so knew what they were capable of.

Roosevelt had also read and was deeply impressed with Churchill's 4-volume biography of John Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough, (of whom Winston was a direct descendant) and the Duke's insistence that France's Louis XIV posed an existential threat to Britain and its burgeoning empire, and had to be defeated at all costs.

By 1940, history was proving both Churchills, (John and Winston) right.

Roosevelt was a Chucrhillian in this regard since the mid-30s - appeasement being a flagrant display of weakness to rising powers.
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“appeasement being a flagrant display of weakness to rising powers.”

Well, there is LOTS of appeasement to ruzzia’s invasion of Ukraine!
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Reply #12 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:14am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:01am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:46am:
I think Roosevelt did turn a blind eye to the Japs but
many historians vigorously deny it.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Still - the Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor.


Yes, we will never know.

However, Roosevelt did know that the Japanese were sabre-rattling and railing, throughout the 30s, against European colonial powers blocking their imperial expansion into Southeast Asia and the Pacific.

The world witnessed what Japan had done in Manchuria - so knew what they were capable of.

Roosevelt had also read and was deeply impressed with Churchill's 4-volume biography of John Churchill, the 1st Duke of Marlborough, (of whom Winston was a direct descendant) and the Duke's insistence that France's Louis XIV posed an existential threat to Britain and its burgeoning empire, and had to be defeated at all costs.

By 1940, history was proving both Churchills, (John and Winston) right.

Roosevelt was a Chucrhillian in this regard since the mid-30s - appeasement being a flagrant display of weakness to rising powers.



I bet you'd find that a lot of the documents and
US Govt information from 1941 is still top secret.

They are hiding something.
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Reply #13 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:15am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:07am:
“appeasement being a flagrant display of weakness to rising powers.”

Well, there is LOTS of appeasement to ruzzia’s invasion of Ukraine!

Oh really? So the hundreds of billions in military aid to Ukraine, NATO's war footing, Finland's and Sweden's lightning entry into NATO, the militaries of Poland, the Baltics, Sweden and Finland chomping at the bit to make hills of Russian soldiers' corpses so high, it would fertilise Ukrainian soil for five years...

Appeasement, you think?
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Reply #14 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:18am
 
Japan had to be stopped from occupying Manchuria, and which was not acting like gentlemen.  The civilised US occupied the Philippines which Spain had colonised.

'Philippine-American War (1899-1902): Over 4,200 US soldiers and over 20,000 Filipino combatants died, and an estimated 200,000 Filipino civilians died from violence, famine, and disease. War crimes were committed by both sides, including torture, mutilation, and summary executions'.
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