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Reply #120 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 4:03pm

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Why is the Aboriginal Flag racist and divisive Freediver???

Because it represents a race.

But like I already explained several times, the flag is merely a symbol.

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.The Government supports Communities and programs to better the lives of many Australian's which is not discrimination

Even if it discriminates on the basis of race?

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Reply #121 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

Everyone, if entitled, can fly their own flag [I have several] but no person or group is entitled in any way to have their flag flown alongside the National Flag.

So symbolism is so important to dickheads like you....Why do you think many Aboriginal people do not accept the Australiaqn Flag because of the Union Jack in the corner "Symbolism"....Shove your patriotic bullshit which excludes a whole race of people!!!

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The Australian Flag doesn’t have the Union Jack in one quarter.

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #123 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 5:10pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

Everyone, if entitled, can fly their own flag [I have several] but no person or group is entitled in any way to have their flag flown alongside the National Flag.

So symbolism is so important to dickheads like you....Why do you think many Aboriginal people do not accept the Australiaqn Flag because of the Union Jack in the corner "Symbolism"....Shove your patriotic bullshit which excludes a whole race of people!!!

Roll Eyes

The Australian Flag doesn’t have the Union Jack in one quarter.

Represents far less than the ethnic origin of the majority. Then add in all the Anglo-Abos...

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Reply #124 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 5:14pm

Aborigine Flag is a racist flag that EXCLUDES everyone else.

Just another Media (Americanised) gimmick to undermine Australia's political rise under the sponsorship and influence of British (Commonwealth) politics... which just happens to have succeeded, where Germany failed and is succeeding where France is failing and it will also succeed where Italy will fail. The Media is definitely anti-British, like a spaghetti western. Look at how they've taken over the ABC from conservative to Americanised Woke Leftism.

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Reply #125 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 5:16pm

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 4:03pm:

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Why is the Aboriginal Flag racist and divisive Freediver???

Because it represents a race.

But like I already explained several times, the flag is merely a symbol.

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.The Government supports Communities and programs to better the lives of many Australian's which is not discrimination

Even if it discriminates on the basis of race?

And Aborigines and TSIs are not co-sovereign with Australia. They are not a nation alongside Australia.

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Reply #126 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 5:18pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 5:14pm:

Aborigine Flag is a racist flag that EXCLUDES everyone else.

Just another Media (Americanised) gimmick to undermine Australia's political rise under the sponsorship and influence of British (Commonwealth) politics... which just happens to have succeeded, where Germany failed and is succeeding where France is failing and it will also succeed where Italy will fail. The Media is definitely anti-British, like a spaghetti western. Look at how they've taken over the ABC from conservative to Americanised Woke Leftism.

As most people who identify as Aboriginal have some white ancestry, there should be a largish white patch on the Aboriginal flag.
Why isn't there one?

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Reply #127 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:42pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:20am:

Nobody cared about the Aboriginal flag or voiced any concern before Dutton made it a wedge issue to win votes....Now the Aboriginal Flag is divisive because White Australia feels offended....Racist arseholes with no substance what so ever....The flag hurts their pathetic feelings....Dickheads the lot of you!!!

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What a load of bullshyte

People have always cared about identity politics and division by race.

It goes against the whole "multicultural" mantra that the whole basis of Labor policy is based on.

It's Labor pushing identity & wedge politics.

But you're too dumb to see it.

As for being offended ... that has that been the forte of the left & woke virtue signaling wankers?

Seems you're in that basket. Dickhead.

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Reply #128 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 12:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 7:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:25pm:

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Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag

It's only an election ploy - nothing grabs them red neck votes better than a little Black bashing.

What sort of voter are you?

A latte sipping inner city woke wanker voter?

Amazing how poor the nostradamus impersonations of the right are.

Don't drink Latte, Haven't been to the city in years and I don't vote like you, not even woke.

It's another 100% Prediction Fail.

Yeah nah - not an answer.

Does leftard/leftoid cover the base for you?

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Reply #129 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:49pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 2:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 9:47am:

As usual - poor old Phil's got it all back to front - it was LABOR who made it a symbol of division and tried to cement a vote bloc by supporting any madness any Aboriginal came up with.

Their idea of equality - politics of division and policies of exclusion and policies of forcibly taking things from the 'privileged group' to hand to those considered under-privileged - are frankly insane...... but none of this will affect them personally - they'll all retire on riches for life regardless of the terrible harm they do to all others.

Madness ... madness.. the only thing madder is you people following them blindly .... half-thoughts fed into your feeble minds from this Sect, this Cult, of Modern Labor And The Woke Crowd - and they stick like leeches to what there is of your minds.

The Aboriginal flag triggers you dickhead....That would be because you are a racist piece of crappler as you confirm in every post....You persecuted prick!!!

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And you're just a simpleton dickhead who speaks(types) through his arse ... certainly not a thinking head.

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Reply #130 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:51pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:02pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 11:31am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 7:56pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

Peter Dutton knows how to read the room.

Do you agree with Dutton refusing to display the Aboriginal and Tores Strait Island flags Freediver....Do you think this act of rejection will bring Australian's together....Feel free to have an opinion???

Huh

I think it is a storm in a teacup. But he is hopefully signalling that he understands a more fundamental shift in public attitude - that we do not support the government treating people differently according to their race. And we are fed up with corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives" who, surprise surprise, always seem to line their own pockets and never actually solve anything. At least, that is what I am hoping it signals. I don't really care about the flag itself, and wonder about people who do.

Do you care about the flag Phil?

As I am related to Aboriginal people I accept their place in Australian history....Is it asking too much they are represented by their own flag....If it doesn't matter why is Dutton making it such an issue Freediver....Why should Aboriginal people accept the Australian flag Freediver....Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver or you just don't give a crap about Aboriginal people who are all corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives???

Huh

A piece of cloth would probably do a better than the current bunch of corrupt sycophants. But that is kind of beside the point, don't you think?

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Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver

Yes. The only way to bring the Australian people together is to reject racism on principle.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?

So giving Indiginous people an identity and representation is racism but denying them their own flag is not....How discriminated against do you feel when you see the Aboriginal flag Freediver....Do you feel as though seeing the Aboriginal flag makes you feel isolated....You claim you do not care but feel discriminated against....You are a racist from way back dickhead!!!

Wow. It's like you were born 2 centuries ago. You want to help, but only in the most condescending and racist manner. It is not up to us to give the aboriginal people an identity, especially in the form of a European war signalling device.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?

So you don't believe Aboriginal people have been discriminated against because of their race....Yet you find a piece of cloth so offensive and divisive that it discriminates against you.....You really are a racist arsehole Freediver!!!

Smiley

Yeah I'll go along with that .... the Aboriginal flag is a culturally appropriated worthless piece of cloth.

Therefore it has no place beside the Australian flag.

Want to borrow a bigger shovel dickhead?

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Reply #132 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:54pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:02pm:

So you don't believe Aboriginal people have been discriminated against because of their race....Yet you find a piece of cloth so offensive and divisive that it discriminates against you.....You really are a racist arsehole Freediver!!!

Smiley

Do you feel the same way about the Nazi flag or the Rising Sun flag?

I mean, there were a lot of decent Germans and Japanese people in the 1930s and 1940s. But the Nazi flag has been condemned as a symbol of hate by people who were mostly not affected by the policies of the Hitler regime.

The aboriginal flag is being seen as a sign of racial division. Generally, I do not have a problem with the aboriginal flag. Except there was this one time I was dared to wear a t-shirt with an aboriginal flag shown. The local indigenous people saw me as confused. Some saw me as "brave". I got a few implied threats. Then there were the community leaders who knew me and had somewhat adopted me as part of the local tribe.

Obviously, the flag provokes the emotions of people it represents. I bet if the Indian supporters at the cricket started running about with the Australian flag, you would raise your eyebrows in concern about the meaning with what they were doing.

What? .... in Band Camp? Grin

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Reply #133 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:55pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:52pm:

Never....The Government supports Communities and programs to better the lives of many Australian's which is not discrimination it is making everyone's life better....When the Government tries to make people assimilate to one culture or belief it is control and stripping away peoples own identity....People are different with different beliefs does that make them racist....Or does refusing to accept any other symbol or belief other than your own make you a racist....Why is the Aboriginal Flag racist and divisive Freediver???

Huh

Shubin...

Harold Joseph Thomas (born 1947), also known as Bundoo, is an Aboriginal Australian artist and former activist, known for designing and copyrighting the Australian Aboriginal flag. He claims to have designed the flag in 1971 as a symbol of the Aboriginal land rights movement, and in 1995 it was made an official "Flag of Australia". After this, his assertion of copyright over his design was upheld by the Federal Court, eventually transferring that copyright to the Commonwealth of Australia and making it freely available for public use in January 2022.

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Reply #134 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 6:56pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:23pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 3:02pm:

So you don't believe Aboriginal people have been discriminated against because of their race....Yet you find a piece of cloth so offensive and divisive that it discriminates against you.....You really are a racist arsehole Freediver!!!

Smiley

Do you feel the same way about the Nazi flag or the Rising Sun flag?

I mean, there were a lot of decent Germans and Japanese people in the 1930s and 1940s. But the Nazi flag has been condemned as a symbol of hate by people who were mostly not affected by the policies of the Hitler regime.

The aboriginal flag is being seen as a sign of racial division. Generally, I do not have a problem with the aboriginal flag. Except there was this one time I was dared to wear a t-shirt with an aboriginal flag shown. The local indigenous people saw me as confused. Some saw me as "brave". I got a few implied threats. Then there were the community leaders who knew me and had somewhat adopted me as part of the local tribe.

Obviously, the flag provokes the emotions of people it represents. I bet if the Indian supporters at the cricket started running about with the Australian flag, you would raise your eyebrows in concern about the meaning with what they were doing.

Taking the piss out of the Aussies....I wouldn't give a crap....Why does anyone care if Aboriginal people have their own flag....Do you feel discriminated against when you see the Aboriginal flag???

Huh

They can have their own flag dickhead ..... but you tell me why it warrants being displayed beside the Australian National flag?

And don't say because it's "law". Phukwit Phil.

BTW dickhead - it's the Union "flag" in the corner - not the Union Jack.

A Jack is a flag flown on a naval vessel.

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