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Reply #165 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:48pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.

Absolute zero.



Then you don't understand Aboriginal youth anger ... which, like, is the causal root of the crimes.

But hey, no surprises.
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Reply #166 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:57pm
 
Giving the Aboriginal Flag official status is discrimination; no other significant group have official recognition of their flag as an Australian flag.
The Irish, for instance, make up a significant portion of the population's ancestors [as they do for Aboriginal Australians] how about the Government give official status to the old Irish flag of the gold harp on a blue ground.
Couldn’t do that, it’d be discriminatory against the Scots and the Welsh for instance.

Nobody is saying that the Aboriginal people can’t have a flag [weird as the idea is], it’s just that it shouldn’t have official status as an Australian flag.
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Reply #167 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:06pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:23am:
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:19am:
Grin Grin Grin

Gathering under three flags - uniting.
One flag - divisive.

The upside down world of pwogwessive identity politics.



Behold! The reasoning of the utterly simple minded.


Flying Indigenous flags alongside the standard is a relatively recent feature in Australian politics. It has been in vogue with the left for some years but was given the government imprimatur with the rise of the Albanese government and has been embraced by all federal agencies.

No one was consulted, it just came to be. It was well intentioned and marketed as a sign that Labor is more inclusive than the Coalition. But to embrace the idea you have to clear a pretty big logical hurdle: that three flags are more unifying than one.

The imposition of multiple flags, without consent, is a good example of the garbled ideological mission creep of alt-morality and the gaslighting of any dissent.

Retooling the existing order always follows the same pattern. An idea is imposed and declared normal. Anyone who dares object is decried by wowsers as waging a culture war, when all they are doing is erecting defensive barricades

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This is unlikely to be a big issue at the next election but symbols are important. If Dutton makes this part of his campaign it will be the first time the Australian people have been asked to make a choice about what symbols they want to represent them. We call this democracy.

Wowsers don’t really like democracy because their ideas don’t fly so well with the mob. That is because alt-morality is philosophical smoke; drifting, intangible and often nonsensical. The list of contradictions and idiocies at their core is long. What follows is a work in progress. Feel free to add to it.

In alt-morality race is intersectional, but white is irredeemable; privilege is permanent, but biology is optional; tradition is tyranny, but dogma is freedom; progress demands tolerance, but not for dissent; fitness is fatphobic; beauty is ugly; speech is violence, but silence is complicity, and; expression is free, as long as you agree.

Wowsers also have a long list of grievances with education.

Maths is racist; English is colonial; engineering perpetuates patriarchy; architecture enforces inequality; science is oppression; economics reinforces capitalism; astronomy is Western cosmology, and; law is injustice.



Chris Uhlmann, (another utterly simple mind, compared to alt-morality wowsers like Mothra)

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Reply #168 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:06pm
 
"Bloody Aboriginal youth crime!"  he decried ....

Came the response:-  "Look around you - it could be worse!!"

He looked around - sure enough - it was worse...


Fantasy unicorn - if the government refuses to accept the 'Aboriginal flag' as a sovereign flag and a national flag, but instead relegates it to its proper place below both national and state flags - that will cause an increase in Aboriginal youth crime?


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Reply #169 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:07pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.

Absolute zero.



Then you don't understand Aboriginal youth anger ... which, like, is the causal root of the crimes.

But hey, no surprises.


And their anger abates every time they see a politician (!) In front of three flags because aboriginal youth are avid watchers of Albo's speeches and press conferences. Everybody knows that.




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Reply #170 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:08pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.

Absolute zero.



Then you don't understand Aboriginal youth anger ... which, like, is the causal root of the crimes.

But hey, no surprises.


I'd be angry if my parents beat me, neglected me, starved me, didn't send me to school, didn't offer meaningful guidance, and inculcated in me the idea that being a drunk and violent etc was the way of life................. oh - wait a minute..... on that basis I have every right and more to be angry and take it out on others - instead of being the gentle, thoughtful person I am ...

Jeez - I even came up with the Two State Solution as THE solution to all the problems....
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Reply #171 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:11pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:22am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:18am:
Still, I would be interested in your opinion, if you are not afraid to give it.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?



My child would not be so stupid as to ask such a ridiculous question.

You bringing it up to be a wowser like yourself.




Modern wowsers are as humourless as their 19th-century counterparts but today they invent virtue and arbitrate vice. They decide what should be said or unsaid; what can be done, or must be undone.

Wowsers rage at the past and punish those deemed privileged in the present. They trade in grievance and division. They distil the essence of totalitarianism by demanding objective punishments for subjective crimes.

The crimes are the sins of commission and omission in words and deeds against new and arbitrary rules.
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Reply #172 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 1:20pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.

Absolute zero.



Then you don't understand Aboriginal youth anger ... which, like, is the causal root of the crimes.

But hey, no surprises.



The causal root of their crimes are:-  their recalcitrance to embrace a prosperous way of life; their preference to remain as wild untamed 'fearless native warriors; their indoctrination into a sense of Entitlement™ far over and above their actual contributions to society today; their equal indoctrination into the wonders of their 'sacred way past'; and their addiction to 'gangstah mentality' mythology wrought by peer pressure and their access to video games and such instead of learning at school.

Thank you for your support of a Two State Solution as the only way out for our local Gazans.....

BTW - Israel has done the world a great favour in suppressing those movements and thus destroying the power of Iran to run proxy wars, which was leading us closer to World War III.

With the blustering surrender of Vlad and the equally blustering surrender of Hamas and Hezbollah and the fall of the Assad regime (though that remains a cypher on the world stage) - the world can now breathe a little more easily now that two or threesteps have been taken back from the brink..... all courtesy of Israel and its sacrifices..
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Reply #173 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 2:44pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:42pm:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.

Absolute zero.



Then you don't understand Aboriginal youth anger ... which, like, is the causal root of the crimes.

But hey, no surprises.

The root cause of most of the crime is greed backed up by a sense of entitlement that has no connection to the work ethic.

How many Aboriginal people do you know?
How many have invited you to get togethers at the local Bora grounds?
How many Aboriginal people have invited you in to their home?
How many Aboriginal people have been your hunting buddies?
How often have you lived with tribal Aboriginal people and for how long?

Unless you can answer, truthfully to most of the questions above then you should go sparingly on related opinions.
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Reply #174 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:16am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:46am:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:41am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:38am:
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:33am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:28am:
Speaking of divisive politics Mothra, do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?



I think that's the kinda question an 8 year old raised by nazis would ask his dad over Tuesday night KFC.


So you share John Smith's view that opposing racism is now a right wing thing? Do you also think the left is naturally racist?
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How on earth did you get that from what i said?

Do you only pop in here to verbal people so you can argue with yourself?


What should I read into your evasiveness Mothra?

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?




I think that's the kinda question an 8 year old raised by nazis would ask his dad over Tuesday night KFC.


Apparently Donald did ask.
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Reply #175 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 11:07am
 
Speaking of one flag ...

Melbourne Storm scraps regular Welcome to Country ceremonies


One of Australia’s most respected sporting clubs will no longer hold regular Welcome to Country ceremonies with the Melbourne Storm ditching the divisive tradition.


I don't follow the boof-head sport of rugby but this is a good move.

I reckon more groups will reduce this annoying "ceremony" as the years pass.
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Reply #176 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:10pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:22am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:18am:
Still, I would be interested in your opinion, if you are not afraid to give it.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?



My child would not be so stupid as to ask such a ridiculous question.


Why?  Does your child think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?
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Reply #177 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:17pm
 
                                      .... Hotoffda Press ...... refusal of city elders to show Aboriginal flag shown to be the cause of all juvenile Aboriginal crime in Alice Springs, Rockhamption and all other cities and towns afflicted by this modern day scourge ... which an unnamed inside source has described as being part of their threatened Intifada fallowing the totally abject failure of the 'voice' .........


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Reply #178 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 6:14pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:50am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 7:35pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 3:52pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 3:11pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:31am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 5:11pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:56pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:42pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:13pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:06pm:
Peter Dutton knows how to read the room.


Do you agree with Dutton refusing to display the Aboriginal and Tores Strait Island flags Freediver....Do you think this act of rejection will bring Australian's together....Feel free to have an opinion???

Huh Huh Huh


I think it is a storm in a teacup. But he is hopefully signalling that he understands a more fundamental shift in public attitude - that we do not support the government treating people differently according to their race. And we are fed up with corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives" who, surprise surprise, always seem to line their own pockets and never actually solve anything. At least, that is what I am hoping it signals. I don't really care about the flag itself, and wonder about people who do.

Do you care about the flag Phil?


As I am related to Aboriginal people I accept their place in Australian history....Is it asking too much they are represented by their own flag....If it doesn't matter why is Dutton making it such an issue Freediver....Why should Aboriginal people accept the Australian flag Freediver....Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver or you just don't give a crap about Aboriginal people who are all corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives???

Huh Huh Huh



A piece of cloth would probably do a better than the current bunch of corrupt sycophants. But that is kind of beside the point, don't you think?

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Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver


Yes. The only way to bring the Australian people together is to reject racism on principle.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?


So giving Indiginous people an identity and representation is racism but denying them their own flag is not....How discriminated against do you feel when you see the Aboriginal flag Freediver....Do you feel as though seeing the Aboriginal flag makes you feel isolated....You claim you do not care but feel discriminated against....You are a racist from way back dickhead!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Wow. It's like you were born 2 centuries ago. You want to help, but only in the most condescending and racist manner. It is not up to us to give the aboriginal people an identity, especially in the form of a European war signalling device.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?


So you don't believe Aboriginal people have been discriminated against because of their race....Yet you find a piece of cloth so offensive and divisive that it discriminates against you.....You really are a racist arsehole Freediver!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


None of that is what I said Phil. Are you having difficulty understanding the question?

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?


Never....The Government supports Communities and programs to better the lives of many Australian's which is not discrimination it is making everyone's life better....When the Government tries to make people assimilate to one culture or belief it is control and stripping away peoples own identity....People are different with different beliefs does that make them racist....Or does refusing to accept any other symbol or belief other than your own make you a racist....Why is the Aboriginal Flag racist and divisive Freediver???

Huh Huh Huh


The symbol is racially/culturally appropriated which is  is not part of their belief system you rabbit on about.

Theirs was rock drawings/markings & self marking for war & ceremony.

Keep trying dipstick.


If it means stuff all to you racist arseholes why do you all care so much....Nothing more than race baiting bullshit from the usual suspects....You lot really could'nt be more petty and pathetic if you cried....The Flag hurts my feelings ya smacking low life dickheads!!!

Cool Cool Cool

It doesn't hurt my feelings .. as far as Aboriginal history & culture go it's an irrelevance because it's an appropriation.

You're too stupid to understand that.

Just keep riding the Indigenous pony you f**#wit.
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Reply #179 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 6:17pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 9:14am:
I wonder, have any of those congratulating Dutton stopped to think what the impact may be on Aboriginal youth crime?

Doubt it.

Scrap that. I'm certain they haven't.


Well you stupid woman - Aboriginal Youth crime has reached epidemic proportions under state & federal Labor govts.

They've had absolutely zero impact.

Done nothing but facilitate it's increase.

It's about time something was done about it ....

and non Indigenous youth crime.  Roll Eyes
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