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Reply #90 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 7:47am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 5:56pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

I like our current flag, just wish the Irish were recognised on it.

You must be as thick as 2 short Irish planks.

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The stripes on the Union Jack represent the three constituent nations of the United Kingdom: the red cross of St. George for England, the white saltire of St. Andrew for Scotland, and the red saltire of St. Patrick for Ireland;

Where do you live? Under a history ignorant rock?

Thank you for your display of uneducated, unedifying ignorance.

The Red Saltire is a cross, crosses in Vexillology are for martyrs, St Patrick died of old age and in bed.
Therefore the so called St Patrick’s Cross is a bit of bull, it is actually the Red Saltire of the Fitz Geralds, an Anglo-Norman family, the Irish emblem was the Harp, but it couldn’t be fitted to the Union Flag except in the centre, a dominant position, so the Cross of the Geraldines was ‘’borrowed’’ from the thoroughly un-Irish, Knights of St Patrick, and then it was ‘’broken’’ so that it fitted into the Union Flag [not, be it noted, the Union Jack]

Hope this little history lesson was helpful.

Edit. The Jack is the Flag flown on the’Jack staff’ . The short staff at the bow of a Naval vessel, thus the Union Flag becomes theUnion Jack as do all other flags flown in similar manner by any nation that is known as a Union, e.g. Union of South Africa, the Soviet Union, the USA [whose Union Jack is the Stars from the US Flag.]

Here endeth the lesson.

So what?

It's well known the crosses and saltires represent England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

The inter clan rivalries are another matter.

Who would expect a harp to be incorporated into the Union "flag"?

What happened was a reasonable compromise was it not?

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Reply #92 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:20am

Nobody cared about the Aboriginal flag or voiced any concern before Dutton made it a wedge issue to win votes....Now the Aboriginal Flag is divisive because White Australia feels offended....Racist arseholes with no substance what so ever....The flag hurts their pathetic feelings....Dickheads the lot of you!!!

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #94 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:41am

Decent people like my outstanding self thought that it was a good idea that it be given the courtesy (not 'respect') of being shown in conjunction with the Australian and state flags etc. When Albo divided the country with this silly 'voice idea' - and then the states, under Party guidance, set about betraying the vote of the people by installing it bit by bit anyway - ALBOCORP Group Inc made of it a symbol of division, Apartheid, Segregation, and special preference (again).

Nobody is to blame for the way the 'Aboriginal flag' has fallen into disrepute, apart from those who pursued and still pursue that division and special preference.

It is unfortunate that there is only the LNP to oppose the madness that has swept the country with this voice madness - when the real people are more than aware that in reality they are little better, and have their own list of special preference groups and ideas.

We need a new party here to sweep them all aside.

Since Labor and the Apartheid movement - AND the 'Infitada' going on - swept the Aboriginal flag into disrepute - it is now only worthy of a place in the rubbish bin.

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #95 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:46am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:20am:

Nobody cared about the Aboriginal flag or voiced any concern before Dutton made it a wedge issue to win votes....Now the Aboriginal Flag is divisive because White Australia feels offended....Racist arseholes with no substance what so ever....The flag hurts their pathetic feelings....Dickheads the lot of you!!!

Roll Eyes

Aboriginality is overdone. Way out of all proportion.
Flag, welcome to country, smoking ceremony, voice, sovereignty, blue banded bee dreaming, amazingly sophisticated agriculture, proud Aborigine walked and chewd gum simultaneously, whoa! Big news!

Tiresome, insincere boosterism. Bandwagon. No wonder there was a 25% jump in the Aboriginal population. it is like Monty Python, "I'm Bwian - and so is my wife".

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #96 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 9:16am

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:20am:

Nobody cared (cried) about the Aboriginal flag or voiced any concern before Dutton made it a wedge issue to win votes....Now the Aboriginal Flag is divisive because White Australia feels offended....Racist arseholes with no substance what so ever....The flag hurts their pathetic feelings....Dickheads the lot of you!!!

Roll Eyes

Aboriginality is overdone. Way out of all proportion.
Flag, welcome to country, smoking ceremony, voice, sovereignty, blue banded bee dreaming, amazingly sophisticated agriculture, proud Aborigine walked and chewd gum simultaneously, whoa! Big news!

Tiresome, insincere boosterism. Bandwagon. No wonder there was a 25% jump in the Aboriginal population. it is like Monty Python, "I'm Bwian - and so is my wife".

I am sure you feel discriminated against and offended every time you see an Aboriginal Flag Fwank....It took Peter Dutton to give you courage to speek up against racism and persecution of being subjected to Indiginous culture....I am sure you will feel safer and more secure now ya pathetic dickhead!!!

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #98 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 9:47am

As usual - poor old Phil's got it all back to front - it was LABOR who made it a symbol of division and tried to cement a vote bloc by supporting any madness any Aboriginal came up with.

Their idea of equality - politics of division and policies of exclusion and policies of forcibly taking things from the 'privileged group' to hand to those considered under-privileged - are frankly insane...... but none of this will affect them personally - they'll all retire on riches for life regardless of the terrible harm they do to all others.

Madness ... madness.. the only thing madder is you people following them blindly .... half-thoughts fed into your feeble minds from this Sect, this Cult, of Modern Labor And The Woke Crowd - and they stick like leeches to what there is of your minds.

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #99 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 9:51am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 9:16am:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 8:20am:

Nobody cared (cried) about the Aboriginal flag or voiced any concern before Dutton made it a wedge issue to win votes....Now the Aboriginal Flag is divisive because White Australia feels offended....Racist arseholes with no substance what so ever....The flag hurts their pathetic feelings....Dickheads the lot of you!!!

Roll Eyes

Aboriginality is overdone. Way out of all proportion.
Flag, welcome to country, smoking ceremony, voice, sovereignty, blue banded bee dreaming, amazingly sophisticated agriculture, proud Aborigine walked and chewd gum simultaneously, whoa! Big news!

Tiresome, insincere boosterism. Bandwagon. No wonder there was a 25% jump in the Aboriginal population. it is like Monty Python, "I'm Bwian - and so is my wife".

I am sure you feel discriminated against and offended every time you see an Aboriginal Flag Fwank....It took Peter Dutton to give you courage to speek up against racism and persecution of being subjected to Indiginous culture....I am sure you will feel safer and more secure now ya pathetic dickhead!!!

I didn't say anything about discrimination or persecution. You mongs are on about that. On and on and on.
THAT is way overdone, as well as all the boosterism, the endless talking up of Aborigines doing ordinary things as an achievement. It's tiresome, patronising bollocks.

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Re: Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag
Reply #100 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 11:31am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 7:56pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 5:06pm:

Peter Dutton knows how to read the room.

Do you agree with Dutton refusing to display the Aboriginal and Tores Strait Island flags Freediver....Do you think this act of rejection will bring Australian's together....Feel free to have an opinion???

Huh

I think it is a storm in a teacup. But he is hopefully signalling that he understands a more fundamental shift in public attitude - that we do not support the government treating people differently according to their race. And we are fed up with corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives" who, surprise surprise, always seem to line their own pockets and never actually solve anything. At least, that is what I am hoping it signals. I don't really care about the flag itself, and wonder about people who do.

Do you care about the flag Phil?

As I am related to Aboriginal people I accept their place in Australian history....Is it asking too much they are represented by their own flag....If it doesn't matter why is Dutton making it such an issue Freediver....Why should Aboriginal people accept the Australian flag Freediver....Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver or you just don't give a crap about Aboriginal people who are all corrupt, unaccountable, unelected aboriginal "representatives???

Huh

A piece of cloth would probably do a better than the current bunch of corrupt sycophants. But that is kind of beside the point, don't you think?

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Do you think this act will bring Australian's together by rejecting Aboriginal representation Freediver

Yes. The only way to bring the Australian people together is to reject racism on principle.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?

So giving Indiginous people an identity and representation is racism but denying them their own flag is not....How discriminated against do you feel when you see the Aboriginal flag Freediver....Do you feel as though seeing the Aboriginal flag makes you feel isolated....You claim you do not care but feel discriminated against....You are a racist from way back dickhead!!!

Wow. It's like you were born 2 centuries ago. You want to help, but only in the most condescending and racist manner. It is not up to us to give the aboriginal people an identity, especially in the form of a European war signalling device.

Do you think the government should be discriminating on the basis of race?

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Reply #103 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 12:16pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 7:40am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:25pm:

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Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag

It's only an election ploy - nothing grabs them red neck votes better than a little Black bashing.

Don't know where you get the redneck cliche from considering the Right has outsmarted you Lefties here and around the world, as they watch you Lefties shoot yourselves in the foot like morons.
Times have changed for the Left. They're the Dumb Gays, calling for rednecks that no longer exist... Nazis and Confederates

You obviously don't read any Frank or do self assessment.

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Reply #104 - Dec 13^th, 2024 at 12:20pm

Gnads wrote on Dec 13^th, 2024 at 7:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:25pm:

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Peter Dutton says he won't display Indigenous flag

It's only an election ploy - nothing grabs them red neck votes better than a little Black bashing.

What sort of voter are you?

A latte sipping inner city woke wanker voter?

Amazing how poor the nostradamus impersonations of the right are.

Don't drink Latte, Haven't been to the city in years and I don't vote like you, not even woke.

It's another 100% Prediction Fail.

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