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Review of Police finds discrimination First Nation
Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:19am
 
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Reply #1 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:52am
 
Bollocks - if Police were allowed to be Police we'd be far better off.

Police leave from pure frustration with the system - where they make the arrests for all types of anti-social, criminal & DV issues & the Judiciary just keeps letting them loose.

Why? because our jails are overflowing.

What a sad indictment on our society.

Helped out by whining virtue signaling softcocks like Bwyan.

And again there are no "First Nations" people - they are Aboriginal people who belonged to various tribal and clan groups.
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Reply #2 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 1:12pm
 
Saw headline and laughed.

Come on, Brian.

"The 2022 Commission of Inquiry into QPS responses to domestic violence was handed down under QPS Commissioner Katarina Carroll."

TF has that got to do with any 'discrimination' against women and Aborigines?  If there IS any discrimination in DV 'laws' it is all against men - and as usual - the Usual Suspects figure most highly in the DV Stakes...  DV 'laws' are not couched in 'discriminatory' terms - but their exercise on the ground is distinctly discriminatory against men, given that ANY issue is 'resolved' (never happen) on the basis of 'protecting' the one most in need of 'protection' - regardless of the facts.  Woman beats man - man taken away by authorities because the woman is smaller... FFS ...

Fair crack of the whip there, bro ....

.....(distant thunder) .............................. look how that kind of massive discrimination amounting to criminal discrimination has impacted on Deuce Bigbelow up there.......
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Reply #3 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 1:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:19am:

QPS puts 'traditional' skills first
Mr McDougall said the review found the QPS still favoured physical skills traditionally held by white men without caring responsibilities.

"Police from diverse backgrounds bring unique skills and experiences to the job that QPS should value and recognise," he said.

"For example … recruits are required to swim 100 [metres] before [joining] QPS despite rarely ... needing to swim on duty.

"It means the ability to swim is valued higher than other valuable skills like the ability to speak other languages or use emerging technologies that are increasingly critical to policing."


The QHRC heard about people being labelled "diversity hires" and that one officer felt they wouldn't have been promoted if they were more vocal about their Aboriginality.

Ah.


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Reply #4 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 1:25pm
 
To be eligible for the QPS, recruits must meet the following requirements.
Be 17 years of age or older at the time of applying, but must be at least 18 years of age at the time of commencing the recruit training; and
Display a high standard of past behaviour and conduct, including your traffic and/or criminal history; and
Currently completing or have completed year 12 (or equivalent - Certificate IV in Adult Tertiary Preparation 11240NAT), or IPROWD program (or equivalent), OR have three or more years of full time (or part time equivalent) work by the time of commencement at the QPS Academy. The work needs to be either paid work or unpaid work at a recognised volunteer organisation; and
By the time of graduating from the police academy, you must hold an open car driver's licence or a current provisional driver licence with a minimum of 12 months of driving experience as the licence holder (automatic or manual car). You may apply in advance; and
Be an Australian citizen or hold permanent residency status, or be a New Zealand citizen holding a special category visa (SCV*) under the Migration Act 1958 (Cth) or a foreign national with policing experience; and
Be ready to demonstrate a reasonable degree of aerobic fitness and physical strength;
Be physically and mentally fit to undertake the duties of a Constable. Please review the Health and Fitness standards.
https://www.policerecruit.qld.gov.au/get-started
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Reply #5 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 1:25pm:
Be physically and mentally fit to undertake the duties of a Constable. Please review the Health and Fitness standards.
https://www.policerecruit.qld.gov.au/get-started


Genuine Occupational Requirements of a General Duties Police
GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
• Maintain operational safety under varying/unpredictable work conditions.
• Maintain public order, exercise police powers, investigate incidents.
• Deal with uncooperative/aggressive people.
• Manage incidents involving significant conflict or emotional distress.
• Exercise authority and give directions, using discretion and coercive force when necessary.
• Patrolling and/or driving for prolonged periods of time whilst wearing an equipment belt weighing approximately 7kg.

PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS
• Wear an accoutrements belt carrying approximately 7kg of equipment.
• Wear a load bearing vest weighting for entire shifts.
• Wear a bullet proof vest weighting up to 10kg when necessary.
• Physically restrain individuals and utilise self-defence techniques where necessary.
• Walking long distances while performing beat duties.
• Standing for lengthy periods for example while on traffic duty or guarding a crime scene.
• Withstand physical assault from another person.
• Wrestle with and physically restrain a person.
• Safely handle a firearm while on duty.
• Climb stairs to ascend more than one story of a building.
• Overall strength and co-ordination to restrain a suspect while applying handcuffs.
• Lift, restrain, push, pull non-compliant persons or bodies of any weight without assistance.
• Physical agility to run, crawl, crouch, reach and twisting of head and back during situations.
COMMUNICATION REQUIREMENTS
• Adapt communication style to suit different situations, including noisy environments.
• Adapt communication strategies to meet client needs.
• Read and comprehend written communication.
• Deal with challenging people.
• Prepare forms, correspondence, and legal briefs of evidence.
OBSERVATION AND MEMORY SKILLS
• Hear and comprehend information without eye-view of the speaker.
• Long range visual acuity, short range visual acuity and colour vision.
• Ability to effectively apply relevant aspects of legislation, policies and procedures.
RESILIENCE AND ADAPTABILITY
• Perform shift work over a 24-hour rotating roster, which may not be conducive to regular breaks.
• Perform shift of between 8 to 12 hours duration (or longer if overtime is worked).
• Ability to operate effectively in stressful and physically demanding situations.
• Cope with irregular meal and toilet breaks during a shift.
• Mental ability to manage and deal with stressful, traumatic, and hazardous situations.
• Ability to deal with challenging and/or emotional people.
• Deal with general physical abuse, verbal abuse, and aggressive behaviour.
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Reply #6 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 5:06pm
 
Brian, if "First Nation" people were arrested, tried and convicted in the same degree of severity as the non-indigenous Australian people, then the gaols will overflow with indigenous people thinking that they are above the law but are unfairly treated.

Give it 5 years of equal treatment before the law for all Australians. You will find that the streets are a lot safer because the dirtbags have left the towns for the extended lock up. And when indigenous people come out of their self-inflicted incarceration, they generally have the idea that they no longer want to dick around and go back to prison.

Just the other week, I saw some drug dealer (allegedly) make threats against 10 police officers. He had an off-sider who recorded the interaction on his mobile phone to be broadcast through social media. It looked more like a play than anything else. But the 'offender' was arrested for making one too many threats against the police.
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Reply #7 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 7:45pm
 
Basic physical requirements are not 'putting traditional' stuff before other attributes and abilities. - they are basic physical requirements.

'must be able to fire and handle weapon accurately and safely' - but most never will have to do so IRL.  So what ?  They abandon weapons training?  So they don't swim - so what?

Downe at Ye Olde Drowninge Poole:-

"Constable Webbfeat - can you tell us why you didn't go in and save that drowning child?"

"I can't swim, my speciality is speaking the Tangalesi language..." ........


Ummmmm .... Yeeee-ussssh .... Riiiiightt!!
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Reply #8 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 7:51pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 5:06pm:
Brian, if "First Nation" people were arrested, tried and convicted in the same degree of severity as the non-indigenous Australian people, then the gaols will overflow with indigenous people thinking that they are above the law but are unfairly treated.

Give it 5 years of equal treatment before the law for all Australians. You will find that the streets are a lot safer because the dirtbags have left the towns for the extended lock up. And when indigenous people come out of their self-inflicted incarceration, they generally have the idea that they no longer want to dick around and go back to prison.

Just the other week, I saw some drug dealer (allegedly) make threats against 10 police officers. He had an off-sider who recorded the interaction on his mobile phone to be broadcast through social media. It looked more like a play than anything else. But the 'offender' was arrested for making one too many threats against the police.


The word from the man on the street in a high crime area known for Usual Suspect misbehaviour...

"According to the Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC), 73% of Indigenous women who were victims of homicide in Queensland between 1989–90 and 2022–23 were killed by an intimate partner."

"For hospitalisations of Indigenous females due to assault where information about the perpetrator was recorded, the perpetrator was a domestic partner in 62.3% (8,525) of cases and another family member or parent in 23.5% (3,225) of cases.21 May 2024 "

88.8% by partner or family member...... and who, by the way, does the rest - the remaining 11.2%?  Neighbours and enemies and clan/tribal opponents?  White coppers?  Show me your dreamtime!!
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Reply #9 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:03pm
 
"This study uses 34 years of data from the National Homicide Monitoring Program to describe the prevalence and characteristics of homicide of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women.

Between 1 July 1989 and 30 June 2023, 476 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women were the victim of a homicide. Indigenous women experienced a homicide victimisation rate up to seven times the national average. Ninety-six percent (n=455) of the 473 homicide incidents involving an Indigenous woman were cleared by police. Almost all victims from cleared incidents were killed by someone they knew (97%, n=446), most by an Indigenous male intimate partner (66%, n=301).

Findings highlight the over-representation of Indigenous women as victims of homicide in Australia and provide baseline data to measure Closing the Gap targets to reduce homicide and other violent victimisation among these women."


Bet they fudged the figures to broaden them to 'across the entire population' and not just the 3.8% TOTAL - meaning far less than 2% Aboriginal men. If you look at 7 times multiplied by 96.2/3.8 .... you arrive at the figure of??????? or more realistically (say) 98/2 (2% Aboriginal men in total population) - you get?

Answer:-  49 times greater probability of being killed by a partner (etc).... not 7 times.  7 times 7 ...

An astronomically higher probability of an Aboriginal woman being killed by a partner or close relative.  Remember in the Northern Terruhtree Aboriginal women are 93% of deaths - most at the hands of partners or those they know well.

"Armitage's investigations have found 81 women have died as a result of domestic violence in the NT since 2000. 93% of them were Aboriginal. The NT has the worst domestic and family violence rates in the nation. Its domestic homicide rate is seven times the national rate."

Well - not according to that study - which says this is national..... what part of National is so difficult to understand in THIS context?  We know it's hard to understand National Park - two simple words - but why is this hard?  It looks like they've taken the NT figures as national - or the national figures are the same as the NT and the NT does NOT have the highest rate - just first among equals, eh?
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Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:21am
 
An elderly Darwin man was found lying in a pool of his own blood after two young boys – one with a long list of criminal charges – had allegedly hacked at him with a machete after breaking into his home, before stealing his car.

Community volunteer Trevor Miller, 71, is still in intensive care under heavy sedation and remains intubated after he was found by his neighbour following a violent home invasion in which the 13 and 14-year-olds allegedly broke into his Woodroffe home last week, leaving him with critical injuries.

The Australian can reveal that one of the teenagers was on bail – for the third time since mid-December – and has more than 50 active charges before the Northern Territory courts.

The 14-year-old is currently before the courts on charges including, but not limited to, multiple counts of trespass, aggravated burglary, assault, aggravated assault, contravening domestic violence orders, shoplifting and theft.

The two youths were last week each charged with aggravated robbery, aggravated burglary of a dwelling, intend serious harm, cause any harm, and driving/using riding a motor vehicle without consent. The 14-year-old was also charged with breach of bail.



Police 'discrimination' = letting Abos get away with unacceptable behaviour, repeatedly.
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Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:35am
 
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For example … recruits are required to swim 100 [metres] before [joining] QPS despite rarely ... needing to swim on duty.


If someone cannot swim 100 meters there is something seriously wrong with them. It does not matter if police only "rarely" need the skill. You only need to drown once to be dead.

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Mr McDougall said the review found the QPS still favoured physical skills traditionally held by white men without caring responsibilities.


How exactly is swimming a white man skill? If anything it would favour women, as they tend to float a bit better. And if a man loses the ability to swim 100 meters because he becomes a father, he is not in a fit state to be a police officer.
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Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:47am
 
This section of the population comprising 2% of the whole of the population, commits 13% of all child homicides and 53% of all missing children.
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Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:43am
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:52am:
Bollocks - if Police were allowed to be Police we'd be far better off.

Police leave from pure frustration with the system - where they make the arrests for all types of anti-social, criminal & DV issues & the Judiciary just keeps letting them loose.

Why? because our jails are overflowing.

What a sad indictment on our society.

Helped out by whining virtue signaling softcocks like Bwyan.

And again there are no "First Nations" people - they are Aboriginal people who belonged to various tribal and clan groups.


True enough.  My older son always said he was so thankful he never had Magistrate Pat O'Shane presiding over a case because she had such a blatant hatred of police.  There is always a "please explain" from the heirarchy when police lose a case - but when O'Shane was the presiding magistrate, it was always a shake of the head and quite understandable.

The Supreme Court found that O'Shane had got the law wrong in 14 out of 16 criminal cases... In one case she dismissed a charge even though the accused had entered a plea of guilty". Supreme Court judges criticised O'Shane for "denying the prosecution procedural fairness," and "failure to comprehend the basis of the prosecution case or the evidence before her, use of intemperate language and making numerous errors of law.

It's hard enough being an officer, but when a magistrate has a vengeance against police and is allowed to carry out her own version of "justice" you can see where the frustrations come into it. 


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Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 9:18am
 
All police should be able to swim, ride push bikes, motor bikes and be proficient shots with rifle, shotgun and pistol.
They never know when their skills may be needed, ot save themselves or others.

Marksman practice should be at least once a month and preferably more often.
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