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Re: Trump was right about Haitians
Reply #30 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:26pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:05pm:
Mr Sad,
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Sometimes, for the sake of truth and reality, such enablers,
the likes of Bobbi, Frank, or now Leroy etc, must be confronted and dismantled.
The fight against misinformation demands it.


You just don't want to hear the unpleasant truth about Haitians -
they believe in Voodoo  and murder 100s of innocent people when
one person gets sick blaming witches.
They eat cats and dogs.
Trump was not afraid to call it out.


Your so-called "evidence" originates from outside the United States, a questionable foundation at best.

It’s akin to me claiming that because a Republican senator was infamously caught engaging in anonymous sexual encounters in a Minneapolis airport bathroom with other men, it somehow serves as definitive proof that all Republicans and their supporters are secretly homosexual.

While I’m sure some are, not that there’s anything wrong with that Bobbi, it hardly justifies painting everyone across the country with the same brush.

And before you ask, no, I don’t have any footage for your amusement. But I’m sure you can indulge your curiosity with a quick Google search, or perhaps by perusing your own browser history.


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Re: Trump was right about Haitians
Reply #31 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 3:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:29pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:11am:
This underscores the existential peril misinformation poses to democracy. When individuals like Bobbi, devoid of critical reasoning, not only fall prey to this nonsense but become its zealous apostles, the damage compounds exponentially.

While I’m relieved our local misinformation bill has been shelved, given my absolute distrust of those in power or those clawing to attain it wielding such sweeping authority, it’s undeniable that action is needed.

Education, sadly, is proving inadequate. Far too many of these purveyors of misinformation fancy themselves "informed" and are wilfully impervious to correction.

Hoping for their outdated views and staggering ignorance to naturally fade out is no longer a viable strategy in an era where misinformation, travels at breakneck speed.

I wish I had clarity on what “action” should look like, but even defining the starting point feels elusive.

Perhaps the harsh truth is that we’re left to endure as the powers that be exploit these fools, and the rest of us, until the system collapses under its own weight. When that moment comes, we may have no choice but to let it all burn and rebuild from the ashes.

But I'd prefer it doesn't come to that.  Those who come after us shouldn't have to suffer because some of us were willfully fu
cking
idiots and dumb cu
nts
.


Excellent post.  Summed it up nicely.

Education just doesn't work on people like Bobbi, Frank, JaSin, et al.

They quite simply cannot be educated, either because they don't want to be or they are quite frankly incapable of learning.

It's a sad phenomenon to witness, and I too worry about how it's all going to end.

These people have no concept of truth, facts or reality - all they believe is what's inside their heads and nothing will sway them.


These individuals are the perfect marks, easily identified by grifters who have refined their craft to pick them out of a crowd.

Historically, the art of the con was less about the scam itself and more about finding the ideal target, the right mark. But with the advent of the internet and, particularly in the US, generations left vulnerable by deliberate degradations to the education system, the paradigm has shifted.

The marks now actively seek out the grifters.

Grifting no longer requires finesse or ingenuity. The formula is simple: tell people what they desperately want to hear, convince them they’ve uncovered or are now privy to a "hidden truth" that some nebulous villain is trying to suppress, and then solicit their money.

It's that simple.

The playbook often includes a staged confrontation with an authority figure, meticulously recorded to bolster credibility, followed by the inevitable crowdfunding campaign for a "legal defence fund" even when no real legal trouble exists, the narrative of victimhood is monetised. When that phase concludes, the grift pivots to selling merchandise, promoting countercultural ideals, or hawking dubious health products and supplements.

Misinformation is the cornerstone of their strategy, lazy, effective, and widely accessible. It has democratised the con, stripping it of any need for charm, cunning, or a keen eye for character. The process is chillingly efficient: identify a niche, locate a group dissatisfied with the mainstream or evidence-based consensus, affirm their beliefs, and ask for donations and help them shift to adopting this topic as part of their very personality.

For those without financial resources, the grift evolves further. These individuals are co-opted as modern-day evangelists, spreading the con to recruit new marks. They are drawn in by the illusion of exclusivity, believing they’ve uncovered a profound hidden truth, and are often told, perhaps for the first time, that they are unequivocally correct about it.

No correction by research they either don't want to know about, or are unable to understand.  No condescending family member "Um actually"-ing them.

For once they have the right answer.

Sure, it's bullshit, but that's less important than their beliefs being validated by someone, anyone.

It is as tragic as it is dangerous. Like those plugged into the Matrix, these individuals are both victims and enablers, unwitting cogs in the machine of misinformation. They resist the truth, perceiving it as a threat, all while perpetuating the very system exploiting them.

Sometimes, for the sake of truth and reality, such enablers, the likes of Bobbi, Frank, or now Leroy etc, must be confronted and dismantled. The fight against misinformation demands it.

And they will inevitably follow the same play book of turning to victimhood and more misinformation as their only method to fight back against the truth.

This reads like the bloody Granuiad!  Grin


Thanks, Frank.

That’s the other point I neglected to mention. Those who traffic in misinformation rarely bother to engage with factual information that challenges their narrative. Instead, they either dismiss it outright or resort to cheap insults directed at the person presenting it.

I knew I was missing something, appreciate the reminder, champ.
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Re: Trump was right about Haitians
Reply #32 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:15pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:05pm:
Mr Sad,
Quote:
Sometimes, for the sake of truth and reality, such enablers,
the likes of Bobbi, Frank, or now Leroy etc, must be confronted and dismantled.
The fight against misinformation demands it.


You just don't want to hear the unpleasant truth about Haitians -
they believe in Voodoo  and murder 100s of innocent people when
one person gets sick blaming witches.
They eat cats and dogs.
Trump was not afraid to call it out.


If Trump was right about Hatians eating cats and dogs in Springfield then post the evidence Bobby.....
Just post the evidence you relied upon to make this claim....
Accusations is not proof Bobby....Over too you???

Huh Huh Huh




36 pages of evidence here:



https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1725969757/0#0


Reposted misinformation, much of which has already been debunked ≠ "evidence".

You fall for the same trap in The Fringe all the time.

Just because you spam a lot doesn't mean your preference quantity over substance proves a thing.
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Re: Trump was right about Haitians
Reply #33 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:44pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 3:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:29pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:11am:
This underscores the existential peril misinformation poses to democracy. When individuals like Bobbi, devoid of critical reasoning, not only fall prey to this nonsense but become its zealous apostles, the damage compounds exponentially.

While I’m relieved our local misinformation bill has been shelved, given my absolute distrust of those in power or those clawing to attain it wielding such sweeping authority, it’s undeniable that action is needed.

Education, sadly, is proving inadequate. Far too many of these purveyors of misinformation fancy themselves "informed" and are wilfully impervious to correction.

Hoping for their outdated views and staggering ignorance to naturally fade out is no longer a viable strategy in an era where misinformation, travels at breakneck speed.

I wish I had clarity on what “action” should look like, but even defining the starting point feels elusive.

Perhaps the harsh truth is that we’re left to endure as the powers that be exploit these fools, and the rest of us, until the system collapses under its own weight. When that moment comes, we may have no choice but to let it all burn and rebuild from the ashes.

But I'd prefer it doesn't come to that.  Those who come after us shouldn't have to suffer because some of us were willfully fu
cking
idiots and dumb cu
nts
.


Excellent post.  Summed it up nicely.

Education just doesn't work on people like Bobbi, Frank, JaSin, et al.

They quite simply cannot be educated, either because they don't want to be or they are quite frankly incapable of learning.

It's a sad phenomenon to witness, and I too worry about how it's all going to end.

These people have no concept of truth, facts or reality - all they believe is what's inside their heads and nothing will sway them.


These individuals are the perfect marks, easily identified by grifters who have refined their craft to pick them out of a crowd.

Historically, the art of the con was less about the scam itself and more about finding the ideal target, the right mark. But with the advent of the internet and, particularly in the US, generations left vulnerable by deliberate degradations to the education system, the paradigm has shifted.

The marks now actively seek out the grifters.

Grifting no longer requires finesse or ingenuity. The formula is simple: tell people what they desperately want to hear, convince them they’ve uncovered or are now privy to a "hidden truth" that some nebulous villain is trying to suppress, and then solicit their money.

It's that simple.

The playbook often includes a staged confrontation with an authority figure, meticulously recorded to bolster credibility, followed by the inevitable crowdfunding campaign for a "legal defence fund" even when no real legal trouble exists, the narrative of victimhood is monetised. When that phase concludes, the grift pivots to selling merchandise, promoting countercultural ideals, or hawking dubious health products and supplements.

Misinformation is the cornerstone of their strategy, lazy, effective, and widely accessible. It has democratised the con, stripping it of any need for charm, cunning, or a keen eye for character. The process is chillingly efficient: identify a niche, locate a group dissatisfied with the mainstream or evidence-based consensus, affirm their beliefs, and ask for donations and help them shift to adopting this topic as part of their very personality.

For those without financial resources, the grift evolves further. These individuals are co-opted as modern-day evangelists, spreading the con to recruit new marks. They are drawn in by the illusion of exclusivity, believing they’ve uncovered a profound hidden truth, and are often told, perhaps for the first time, that they are unequivocally correct about it.

No correction by research they either don't want to know about, or are unable to understand.  No condescending family member "Um actually"-ing them.

For once they have the right answer.

Sure, it's bullshit, but that's less important than their beliefs being validated by someone, anyone.

It is as tragic as it is dangerous. Like those plugged into the Matrix, these individuals are both victims and enablers, unwitting cogs in the machine of misinformation. They resist the truth, perceiving it as a threat, all while perpetuating the very system exploiting them.

Sometimes, for the sake of truth and reality, such enablers, the likes of Bobbi, Frank, or now Leroy etc, must be confronted and dismantled. The fight against misinformation demands it.

And they will inevitably follow the same play book of turning to victimhood and more misinformation as their only method to fight back against the truth.


This is exactly how Booby got sucked in by David DuByne preaching that the sun is going into a Grand Solar Minimum and that this would cause an ice age. I did read the comments to some DuByne YouTubes and “We know what is really going on” is a leitmotif running through those comments.

Grifters gotta grift I suppose.
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Re: John was right about bobby being an idiot
Reply #34 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:58pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:49pm:
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Re: Trump was right about Haitians
Reply #35 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:01pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:29pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:11am:
This underscores the existential peril misinformation poses to democracy. When individuals like Bobbi, devoid of critical reasoning, not only fall prey to this nonsense but become its zealous apostles, the damage compounds exponentially.

While I’m relieved our local misinformation bill has been shelved, given my absolute distrust of those in power or those clawing to attain it wielding such sweeping authority, it’s undeniable that action is needed.

Education, sadly, is proving inadequate. Far too many of these purveyors of misinformation fancy themselves "informed" and are wilfully impervious to correction.

Hoping for their outdated views and staggering ignorance to naturally fade out is no longer a viable strategy in an era where misinformation, travels at breakneck speed.

I wish I had clarity on what “action” should look like, but even defining the starting point feels elusive.

Perhaps the harsh truth is that we’re left to endure as the powers that be exploit these fools, and the rest of us, until the system collapses under its own weight. When that moment comes, we may have no choice but to let it all burn and rebuild from the ashes.

But I'd prefer it doesn't come to that.  Those who come after us shouldn't have to suffer because some of us were willfully fu
cking
idiots and dumb cu
nts
.


Excellent post.  Summed it up nicely.

Education just doesn't work on people like Bobbi, Frank, JaSin, et al.

They quite simply cannot be educated, either because they don't want to be or they are quite frankly incapable of learning.

It's a sad phenomenon to witness, and I too worry about how it's all going to end.

These people have no concept of truth, facts or reality - all they believe is what's inside their heads and nothing will sway them.



Too true. Leroy confirmed that they're quite happy to ignore facts in their campaign against the leftards, RINOs, tinted races and Jigaboos.

Leroy says that he is all good with his DL sabotaging our own economy, placing us in recession and lowering the value of his savings and pension fund. No worries, Leroy said, he simply doesn't care. What's important is that DL does as much damage as possible.

They can then "create a theory", he said, to reframe reality and put the blame on others.

It was a most insightful conversation. I do feel we need more like them. The problem is, Frank, Bobby, JaSin et al just lie.

Wacist? Frank says. Moi?

He disagrees with the very pwemise. How very dare you!

Bobby and JaSin just post autobot memes and indecipherable waffle.

Aquascoot regurgitates his Sky News talking points, which change on a daily basis, depending on whatever Rowan Dean, Chris Kenny and Andrew Bolt said last, mixed in with conspiracies from Joe Rogan, Benny Johnson and other Russian cash-for-comment stooges.

It's a bit of a worry, as you'd imagine, given this used to be a somewhat sane, if a little toxic at times, political discussion board. Just think, it was only nine years ago when we reflected on actual truth and facts. Even in his early days, their DL came across as slightly normal. You can still see interviews of him in 2015 having perfectly reasonable questions out to him by journalists, even if his answers seemed a little trite.

Now, puffed up, bulbous-eyed and clearly medicated, he issues nothing but deranged rants and attacks, most of it unintelligible.

His worshippers have followed suit. Now, we're having erstwhile political debates on immigrants stealing pets for food, 200% tariffs on Chi-na and Fauci and the Cheneys being indicted.

Still, we did warn of all this and more. This is what you get, we said, when you've been ploughed, planted irrigated and harvested.

Ever get the feeling you've been farmed?
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Reply #36 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm
 
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated"  Wink
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Reply #38 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:13pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated" 

In 1933 the Nazis won only 43.9% of the vote, rather than the majority that he had expected.
Trump got 49.9%.
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Reply #39 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:20pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:26pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
It's that simple.

The playbook often includes a staged confrontation with an authority figure, meticulously recorded to bolster credibility, followed by the inevitable crowdfunding campaign for a "legal defence fund" even when no real legal trouble exists, the narrative of victimhood is monetised. When that phase concludes, the grift pivots to selling merchandise, promoting countercultural ideals, or hawking dubious health products and supplements.

Misinformation is the cornerstone of their strategy, lazy, effective, and widely accessible. It has democratised the con, stripping it of any need for charm, cunning, or a keen eye for character. The process is chillingly efficient: identify a niche, locate a group dissatisfied with the mainstream or evidence-based consensus, affirm their beliefs, and ask for donations and help them shift to adopting this topic as part of their very personality.

For those without financial resources, the grift evolves further. These individuals are co-opted as modern-day evangelists, spreading the con to recruit new marks. They are drawn in by the illusion of exclusivity, believing they’ve uncovered a profound hidden truth, and are often told, perhaps for the first time, that they are unequivocally correct about it.

No correction by research they either don't want to know about, or are unable to understand.  No condescending family member "Um actually"-ing them.

For once they have the right answer.

Sure, it's bullshit, but that's less important than their beliefs being validated by someone, anyone.

It is as tragic as it is dangerous. Like those plugged into the Matrix, these individuals are both victims and enablers, unwitting cogs in the machine of misinformation. They resist the truth, perceiving it as a threat, all while perpetuating the very system exploiting them.

Sometimes, for the sake of truth and reality, such enablers, the likes of Bobbi, Frank, or now Leroy etc, must be confronted and dismantled. The fight against misinformation demands it.

And they will inevitably follow the same play book of turning to victimhood and more misinformation as their only method to fight back against the truth.

This reads like the bloody Granuiad!  Grin


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Thanks, Frank.

That’s the other point I neglected to mention. Those who traffic in misinformation rarely bother to engage with factual information that challenges their narrative. Instead, they either dismiss it outright or resort to cheap insults directed at the person presenting it.


The old boy's back in his coffin for the night, Sad. He's like those mechanical skeletons that pop up to scare you on the Ghost Train ride at the show.

He gives you a quick boo then he's back in his box.
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Reply #40 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated"  Wink


Demolished?

The majority of voters did not vote for the rapist in 2024 (49.8%), unlike Biden in 2020 (51.3%).

The rapist won 312 electoral college votes, whereas Biden won 306 - a difference of only 6 electoral college votes.

The rapist only won the popular vote by 2 million votes in 2024, whereas Biden won it by more than 7 million votes in 2020.

If the Democrats were "demolished" in 2024, then the Republicans were absolutely decimated in 2020.



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Reply #41 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated"  Wink


Demolished?

The majority of voters did not vote for the rapist in 2024 (49.8%), unlike Biden in 2020 (51.3%).

The rapist won 312 electoral college votes, whereas Biden won 306 - a difference of only 6 electoral college votes.

The rapist only won the popular vote by 2 million votes in 2024, whereas Biden won it by more than 7 million votes in 2020.

If the Democrats were "demolished" in 2024, then the Republicans were absolutely decimated in 2020.






indeed

you guys should definitely double down on trans issues and racism.

that sounds like a winning strategy  Wink
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Reply #42 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated"  Wink


Demolished?

The majority of voters did not vote for the rapist in 2024 (49.8%), unlike Biden in 2020 (51.3%).

The rapist won 312 electoral college votes, whereas Biden won 306 - a difference of only 6 electoral college votes.

The rapist only won the popular vote by 2 million votes in 2024, whereas Biden won it by more than 7 million votes in 2020.

If the Democrats were "demolished" in 2024, then the Republicans were absolutely decimated in 2020.






indeed ...



Glad you agree.

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Reply #43 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:36pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 4:26pm:
Thanks, Frank.

That’s the other point I neglected to mention. Those who traffic in misinformation rarely bother to engage with factual information that challenges their narrative. Instead, they either dismiss it outright or resort to cheap insults directed at the person presenting it.

I knew I was missing something, appreciate the reminder, champ.

There was zero factual information in your long Granuiadsta monologues.

You lament that people disagree with you and do not treat your opinions and their sources, grounding, logic as authoritative or truthful or trustworthy.


This in no way proves that what they say is misinformation or that your opinions are objective, on impeccable authority and so the korrekt way to see thing.


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Reply #44 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:23pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
i'd have thought people who got demolished in an election and still refuse to consider where they are going wrong are those who "cant be educated"  Wink


Demolished?

The majority of voters did not vote for the rapist in 2024 (49.8%), unlike Biden in 2020 (51.3%).

The rapist won 312 electoral college votes, whereas Biden won 306 - a difference of only 6 electoral college votes.

The rapist only won the popular vote by 2 million votes in 2024, whereas Biden won it by more than 7 million votes in 2020.

If the Democrats were "demolished" in 2024, then the Republicans were absolutely decimated in 2020.






indeed ...



Glad you agree.




i do , i do

trump got the most votes ever for a republican from latinos, blacks and muslims
the only group he went slightly down on was whites  Shocked Shocked

after saying latinos  are polluting americas blood lines

that shows you how much americans despise identity politics


and the number 1 ad in terms of swaying voters was the one where trump said
"harris is for they /them,  i'm for you"

so you go double down on racism shaming and trans issues

that certainly seems to be working  Wink
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