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Dec 12th, 2024 at 6:36pm
 
I have noticed on this forum there are several posters who only look to incite hatred. They take positions to try and cause disharmony between groups. There is no interest in discussion but a desire to cause conflict. I also notice they all have one thing in common.
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Reply #1 - Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm
 
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you. People are going to have different opinions.

If you compare the inability or unwillingness of the right (left and right are media terms labeling people) to see things from the other side's point-of-view then your actions must validate your concerns. Same with islamophobes (another media creation ) do your actions validate their concerns. Don't give oxygen to to a fire you want to extinguish. 
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:53pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you. People are going to have different opinions.


Oh, it doesn't upset me at all, Soren.  It annoys me, just as you do with your fake persona.  People are entitled to differing opinions but they need to display that they understand their opponents far more than they do at the moment.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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If you compare the inability or unwillingness of the right (left and right are media terms labeling people) to see things from the other side's point-of-view then your actions must validate your concerns. Same with islamophobes (another media creation ) do your actions validate their concerns. Don't give oxygen to to a fire you want to extinguish. 


The Left and the Right date back to the French Revolution when the opposing sides of the Parliament sat on the two sides of the chamber.  Islamophobia is a more recent development and has almost nothing to do with the media.  I do not give oxygen, I remove it from the debate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:17pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you. People are going to have different opinions.



Nothing to do with opinions.

Those on the right insist on having their own (objectively wrong) facts, truths and reality.


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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:53pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you. People are going to have different opinions.


Oh, it doesn't upset me at all, Soren.  It annoys me, just as you do with your fake persona.  People are entitled to differing opinions but they need to display that they understand their opponents far more than they do at the moment.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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If you compare the inability or unwillingness of the right (left and right are media terms labeling people) to see things from the other side's point-of-view then your actions must validate your concerns. Same with islamophobes (another media creation ) do your actions validate their concerns. Don't give oxygen to to a fire you want to extinguish. 


The Left and the Right date back to the French Revolution when the opposing sides of the Parliament sat on the two sides of the chamber.  Islamophobia is a more recent development and has almost nothing to do with the media.  I do not give oxygen, I remove it from the debate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Other posters are not your opponents, there is nothing to win or lose.

Some people will be twats and that includes all religions and non religious.

I don't interact with people that preach one thing and act another. I don't care what religion or race, its the way they act that determines their values. When you call people islamophobic you pretty much validate them, right or wrong. I'm not telling you how to live but I feel you may bring a lot on yourself.

And by the way who is Soren, I don't want to get into it over this name but just fill me in on why.
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Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:09am
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:

The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.

Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.

The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims***
as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you.

People are going to have different opinions.




greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Nothing to do with opinions.

Those on the right insist on having their own (objectively wrong) facts, truths and reality.



greggery,

I will quote Allah and sometimes i will report what moslems have themselves said.

Are you asserting that an infidel may not examine the meaning, of Allah's truth and REALITY ?

That, it should be FORBIDDEN, for any infidel, to examine Allah's truth and REALITY ?

And FORBIDDEN, for any infidel, to form a 'conclusion', from that examination ?



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brian,

What about the "portrayal of all Muslims", by THE RESPONSIBILITY, of their own personal choice,
to join themselves to, and to embrace, the doctrines of Allah's perfect religion ?



THE REALITY WHICH ISLAM FOSTERS......

ISLAM's most sacred religious text declares,
and instructs the devout moslem,
that it is FORBIDDEN for him,
to have a friend who is a Jew or a Christian.



And PLAINLY declares          ........that a devout moslem,
who chooses to have a Jewish or a Christian friend,
he, is no longer a follower of Allah.

i.e.
The Jew and the Christian, can only EXIST, as an enemy, of the devout moslem.

REALITY


AS PER......
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


FURTHER........REALITY

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. ***Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23

***
The religious doctrine of ISLAM.......
Anyone who aligns himself [sincerely] with any disbeliever, is an evil person [i.e. worthy of death, at the hand of a good moslem !].

REALITY


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EVEN MORE REALITY...[a reality, which greggery must be in denial about]
from ISLAM's most sacred religious text,
which instructs the devout moslem,
to fight and to kill 'local' disbelievers.

REALITY


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"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11



QUESTION;
Is it is LEGITIMATE, for the infidel, to examine these verses,
found within ISLAM's most sacred religious text,
in order TO ENABLE THE INFIDEL,
to understand the motives of the followers of ISLAM,
towards those who are not followers of ISLAM ?



THE TRUTH IS 'OUT THERE'.


Yadda said......
ISLAM in its foundational religious text [the Koran]
promotes hatred of ALL non-moslems,
AS ISLAMS PRIMARY RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

Examine the content of the Koran [and the Hadith] for yourself.



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INSTRUCTION FROM THE PROPHET OF ALLAH,
IN THE HADITH....


"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion,
kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 10:02am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:09am:

QUESTION;
Is it is LEGITIMATE, for the infidel, to examine these verses,
found within ISLAM's most sacred religious text,
in order TO ENABLE THE INFIDEL,
to understand the motives of the followers of ISLAM,
towards those who are not followers of ISLAM ?





QUESTION;
Is it is LEGITIMATE, for the moslem,
[while LIVING within a secular host nation,
when he is speaking 'behind closed doors'],
to remind members of his own community,
that they are OBLIGATED to hold an unending enmity and hatred,
towards those who are not followers of ISLAM,
towards all those who reject the primacy of ISLAMIC law ?


EXAMPLES FOLLOW.......




ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

EVIDENCES, from the lips of devout moslems ------ >



Quote:

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam

01/05/2007

In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed:

"Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".

The article advised:


"The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.

There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims.



Not only is it obligatory to fight them,     it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-...



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ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

EVIDENCES, from the lips of devout moslems ------ >



Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.


And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity."



http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true

this is an old link, but the article is kosher.


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ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult.

EVIDENCES, from the lips of devout moslems ------ >



This UK moslem community leader, is speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005


......In public interviews         
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.




Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:



“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”



n.b.  'kuffar' = = disbeliever

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts


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EVEN MORE EVIDENCES, IN THESE TWO VIDEOS........
[....of what moslems are willing to reveal about their 'religion',
whenever they are speaking 'behind closed doors'.]



CHANNEL 4 UNDERCOVER MOSQUE

--------- >

These two videos expose the truth about ISLAM, and about moslem communities living in the West.

ISLAM in the West, is all about cultural subversion and seeking actual harm, towards 'those who are not us'.
[Koran 9.123  Koran 5.51  Koran 2.98  Koran 48.29]


WATCH THESE TWO VIDEOS......
------- >
....they reveal     A LOT,     about the followers of ISLAM, in the UK


#01
Undercover Mosque [ Part 1 ] Un-United Kingdom of Islam

49 min
February 4th, 2022
https://old.bitchute.com/video/synpQltrUMLs/

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Jihad and Jihad, and Jihad.....


@00.40            
"The Last Day will not come, until the Muslims fight the Jews, and kill them."


#02
Undercover Mosque [ Part 2 ] The Return, Real Stories

49 min
February 4th, 2022
https://old.bitchute.com/video/1P8srghUszCR/


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I hope that you ARE NOT 'OFFENDED'
because i presented these arguments and EVIDENCES, above.

IMO, being 'offended', is not a healthy mental reaction,
when we are presented with undeniable truth.

These are REAL   >> evidences, <<   in the world.

The statements being made by followers of ISLAM,
are NOT my 'claims',
and they are NOT my assertions.



Search for yourself.......for the truth [OR NOT] of what i have presented.


WWW SEARCH........
[search for this whole string....]
"Cause of Allah" "Jihad"   site:www.thereligionofpeace.com

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx


WWW SEARCH........
[search for this whole string....]
"Cause of Allah" "Jihad"   site:www.jihadwatch.org/

https://jihadwatch.org/category/jihad-doctrine


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Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:02pm
 
Yadda, you're an Islamophobic Troll.  Run along, back to your hidden Church where you can preach your hatred for all other religions to your heart's content.  You're a WOFTAM.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:53pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What is it that upsets you Brian, what would you change about what bothers you so much. be real and speak your real truth.


The complete lack of empathy displayed by the members of the Right.  Their inability or unwillingness to see things from the other side's point-of-view.  The Islamophobes inability to see through the media's portrayal of all Muslims as being supposed Terrorists or supporters of Terrorism.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But thats their problem, why do you let it upset you. People are going to have different opinions.


Oh, it doesn't upset me at all, Soren.  It annoys me, just as you do with your fake persona.  People are entitled to differing opinions but they need to display that they understand their opponents far more than they do at the moment.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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If you compare the inability or unwillingness of the right (left and right are media terms labeling people) to see things from the other side's point-of-view then your actions must validate your concerns. Same with islamophobes (another media creation ) do your actions validate their concerns. Don't give oxygen to to a fire you want to extinguish. 


The Left and the Right date back to the French Revolution when the opposing sides of the Parliament sat on the two sides of the chamber.  Islamophobia is a more recent development and has almost nothing to do with the media.  I do not give oxygen, I remove it from the debate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Other posters are not your opponents, there is nothing to win or lose.

Some people will be twats and that includes all religions and non religious.

I don't interact with people that preach one thing and act another. I don't care what religion or race, its the way they act that determines their values. When you call people islamophobic you pretty much validate them, right or wrong. I'm not telling you how to live but I feel you may bring a lot on yourself.

And by the way who is Soren, I don't want to get into it over this name but just fill me in on why.


Oh, you know who you are, don't you, Soren?  Some people are twats, I agree but it is the members of the Right and the Islamophobes who annoy me the most, just like you.  Look at Yadda, he post endless diatribes against Muslims but he refuses to talk directly to Muslims because he is such an Islamophobe.  He hates any other religion except his Old Testament style Christianity.  He ignores the message that Christ taught about tolerance and love.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:10pm
 
Dear Yadda,
your posts are too long -
I doubt anyone reads them.

Please make them short and punchy.
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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:06pm:
.  He ignores the message that Christ taught about tolerance and love.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why do you behave the way you do, is that the message of your god?.
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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:19pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:18pm:
And by the way who is Soren, I don't want to get into it over this name but just fill me in on why.

Bbwiyawn think you are me.  Or that I am you. Or something like that.
I say "Bbwiyawn thinks" because I am in a very generous mood.
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Reply #15 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:34pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:18pm:
And by the way who is Soren, I don't want to get into it over this name but just fill me in on why.

Bbwiyawn think you are me.  Or that I am you. Or something like that.
I say "Bbwiyawn thinks" because I am in a very generous mood.


Thanks, not that it makes any sense to me.
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The Left's narrative is based entirely from the Media's narrative and point of view.
The Media  is not the Political industry. It is the industry of Music and Entertainment.
The Right IS political solely. The political industry belongs to the Right.

What we have here with the likes of Lefty (victimhoods) like Brian, Peccary, John Smith, Mothra, LTYC, Philperth, Dnarever and Karnal who reflect the Media as their cultural state of being coming from the Television land into the World of the Internet like control freaks and think that the Internet and the Right should politically bow to their Media's narratives.

Because they nearly always lose the discussions and arguments like steering their ship onto rocks. They fall into repetitive Trolling posts and are thus the main Trolls of this Forum.
You could say they are the SOOKY babies who can't cope with people being Right/Internet and free from their Television Media way of thinking.
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Reply #17 - Dec 14th, 2024 at 8:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 7:14am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:02pm:


Yadda, you're an      >> Islamophobic Troll <<.

Run along, back to your hidden Church where you can preach your hatred for all other religions to your heart's content.

You're a WOFTAM.   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





brian,

PLEASE DEFINE   >> 'ISLAM-O-PHOBIA' <<   FOR ME.


.....and then read on.



[not only 'behind closed doors', in the West, but.......]

Within their own environment [society],
quite often we will witness   'the moslem'   speaking plainly,
and unambiguously,
about his absolute, temporal intent.

ambiguous = = having more than one meaning.    unclear because not distinguishing between alternatives.

temporal2 = = relating to worldly affairs; secular.




brian,     You are a person who will simply spew angry slander and disparagement,
whenever you are faced with a truth which you are unwilling to acknowledge.

That is not very 'scientific', is it ?     .......CHOOSING, to reject what is patently true.


EXAMPLE ----- >


LOOK AT THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE !
THIS MOSLEM 'POET', WAS NOT SPEAKING IN THE DISTANT PAST.


Quote:

Turkish Muslim poet:
‘The first duty of Muslims is to be terrorists.
Kafirs [infidels] should be afraid of Muslims.’


>> Oct 2, 2024  <<

By Robert Spencer


         İsmet Özel, a well-known Muslim poet from Turkey, said at a conference:
     
         “Muslims are terrorists.
            The first duty of Muslims is to be terrorists.
            Kafirs [infidels] should be afraid of Muslims.
            If they are not afraid, then a Muslim is not a Muslim.”
                     https://t.co/oyNMAnLP7E
     
         — Uzay Bulut (@bulutuzay_) September 27, 2024


Q.
Is this guy a “racist, bigoted, Islamophobe”?

Or does he know his own religion?

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/10/turkish-muslim-poet-the-first-duty-of-muslims-is-...




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Incitement
Reply #19 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 7:32am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:18pm:

And by the way who is Soren, I don't want to get into it over this name but just fill me in on why.



Bbwiyawn think you are me.

Or that I am you.

Or something like that.

I say "Bbwiyawn thinks" because I am in a very generous mood.




brian is, imo, one of the most obtuse and abusive members, that we have on OzPol.

brian is also an undoubted genius too [i.e. he is never mistaken].         ......in his own brain.

And brian is probably the most intelligent person who has ever posted on this platform.
/sarc off

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Incitement
Reply #20 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:49am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Dear Yadda,
your posts are too long -

I doubt anyone reads them.




bobby,

You are probably correct.

This is very troubling to me.


[wink, and smile]       


.


Psalms 19:8
The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart:
the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.


Psalms 119:165
Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.


Matthew 19:17
[Jesus said].....if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which?
Jesus said,
Thou shalt do no murder,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

         For all Ten Commandments......
         examine Exodus 20    KJV



Q.
Who hates God, and why ?

Q.
Who hates God's people, and why ?

Search it out.



Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Revelation 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints:
here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


"There are two ways to be fooled [deceived].
One way is to believe what is not true.
The other is to refuse to accept what is true."
- Soren Kierkegaard


Jeremiah 9:3
And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
...
...
6  Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.



.......and the wicked delete posts....on the DEFENCE board.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Incitement
Reply #21 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 9:15am
 
When the Nazis were invading Europe and the Nips were invading Asia and Pacific.
Brian's grandfather was calling everyone Nazi & Jap phobes.
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Re: Incitement
Reply #22 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:12pm
 
Yadda, you know very well what Islamophobe means with your hatred of Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Incitement
Reply #23 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:57pm
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Dear Yadda,
your posts are too long -

I doubt anyone reads them.





bobby,
You are probably correct.
This is very troubling to me.

[wink, and smile]       


.......and the wicked delete posts....on the DEFENCE board.





Yes - Brian is wicked - he should repent for the end is nigh.
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Reply #24 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 1:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12th, 2024 at 7:25pm:
Yes, the Islamophobes and the Right are particularly bad at this, Soren.   They'd rather fight than come to an agreement.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The Left has come to an agreement with Islam.


The Illiberal Left and Political Islam
David Martin Jones

‘Literature always anticipates life,’ Oscar Wilde opined in his essay “The Decay of Lying”; “It does not copy it but moulds it to its purpose.” Recent developments in British politics seem to confirm Oscar’s aphorism. In 2015, Michel Houellebecq published his political fiction Submission, anticipating the democratic rise to power in Europe of the Muslim Brotherhood. Widely dismissed as “Islamophobic”, his dystopian novel, set in France in 2022, identifies how Europe’s political elites abandoned the Enlightenment project, alienated the masses and created the conditions for the emergence of a new extremist politics on both the Left and the Right.
The novel’s protagonist, François, an alienated Sorbonne professor, observes that mainstream political parties had created “a chasm between the people and those who claimed to speak for them, the politicians and journalists”. The latter, “who had lived and prospered under a given social system”, could not “imagine the point of view of those who feel it offers them nothing, and who can contemplate its destruction without any particular dismay”. In this context, the political system “might suddenly explode”.

In France the explosion takes the form of a run-off in the second round of voting for the French Presidency, between Marine Le Pen of the right-wing National Front and the recently emerged Muslim Brotherhood Party’s representative, the charismatic, but fictional, Ben Abbes. To avoid a far-Right victory, both mainstream socialist and conservative parties, eliminated in the first round of the French election process, give their support to Ben Abbes, who becomes the first democratically elected Muslim President of the Republic.

From the outset, the new President distances himself from jihadi fanaticism. Instead, Abbes, a disciple of Machiavelli as well as Mohammed, sees Europe “ripe for absorption into the Dar al Islam”. Subsequently, the Republic runs along sharia-approved but moderate Islamic lines. The University of Paris becomes an Islamic university, polygamy is approved and generous family payments allow women to give up work. Unemployment falls, education is privatised and Islamised through charitable donations, and small business is encouraged. The old elites convert to the faith and France rediscovers the joys of patriarchy and a sense of political purpose.
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Reply #25 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 1:11pm
 
How, we might wonder, did this curious political amalgamation between political Islam and the multicultural anti-capitalist Left evolve, and why have the mainstream media, the political class and academe condoned or ignored the Islamic tendency in (UK) politics?

Three related factors account for this development and its deleterious implications for secular liberal democracy. First, the transnational Left, in the UK and elsewhere, experienced what Nick Cohen identified as a “dark liberation” after 2003. From this post-Iraq perspective, the United States and its allies function as the neo-liberal, imperial enemy, whilst Israel plays a special role as its demonic accomplice. Imbued with theories of Zionist world conspiracy, notes Cohen, “dark liberation” excuses even the most “brutal theocratic-fascist regime, as long as they oppose the United States and the capitalist status quo”. The post-Iraq utopian Left, comprising transnational networks of NGOs, sympathetic academics, radical pacifists, indigenous peoples and environmental activists, seeks to overthrow the neo-liberal empire. Those committed to this anti-capitalist worldview now lead hundreds of activist groups and NGOs, conduct seminars and receive support from Western governments and eleemosynary institutions, enjoy various despots as their cheerleaders, are woven into the workings of the UN and the EU, and subscribe to a coherent though by no means uniform ideology. Crucially, this ideology redescribes the recourse to jihad, not as a violent attempt to impose Islamist values, but as a form of emancipatory “resistance”, perpetrated by a small, alienated Muslim minority.
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Reply #26 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
A further consequence of this world-purifying utopianism thus considers home-grown terrorists as the victims of an oppressive capitalist social order. Whether it’s Michael Adeybolajo and Michael Adobelawaye murdering Lee Rigby in Woolwich in May 2013 or the Kouachi brothers and Ahmedy Coulibaly attacking the offices of Charlie Hebdo in Paris in January 2015, the transnational Left considers home-grown jihadis the inevitable product of a fractured society. Whether it’s the Parisian radical feminist and film-maker Rokhaya Diallo, or Jeremy Corbyn adviser and former Guardian columnist Seamus Milne, it’s liberal secular democracy and Western foreign policy, not the Koran, that creates Islamic State and jihadism in the West.

Advancing this zombie-Left worldview, therefore, requires the active compliance of the West’s progressive media to reinforce this perverse interpretation of secular free-market democracy. Its distinctive rhetoric favours speech acts that limit debate, conceal and prevent thought, and label pejoratively those who identify the totalitarianism implicit in Islamism’s political religion. “By naming things wrongly,” Albert Camus observed, “we add to the misfortunes of the world.” The BBC’s current editorial guidelines, which counsel journalists to describe terrorists as “militants” and always refer to the “so-called Islamic State”, are perhaps the most obvious examples of this developing political language.
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Reply #27 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 1:19pm
 
More troubling still is the acceptance into common usage of the pejorative noun “Islamophobia”. Shiite propagandists first coined the term in the wake of the Ayatollah Khomeini’s 1979 revolution in Iran. Later, in London, those campaigning against Salman Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses realised they had more to gain by transforming their status from assassins implementing the Ayatollah’s fatwa to victims of Islamophobia. In the 1990s, the Runnymede Trust and the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC), a London-based, UN-recognised NGO, promoted the term’s use. The IHRC’s founder, Massoud Shadjareh, hands out annual awards for Islamophobe of the year. (The 2015 ceremony, held less than two months after the Paris attack, awarded the international prize to Charlie Hebdo.) To those who cry “Islamophobia!” any criticism of Islamic fanaticism, or, as we have seen, the legitimate investigation of the former political associations of a figure like Sadiq Khan, is a form of racism against Muslims. It elides racist attacks on mosques or Muslims with liberal criticism of sharia law, the treatment of women or religious violence. “Islamophobia” operates as a semantic signifier deterring all criticism of Islam and foreclosing debate.


The liberal dread of being labelled Islamophobic, a penchant for tolerating the intolerant, combined with the fear of provoking violence, has effectively silenced intelligent debate about the rise of political Islam in Europe and its impact on secular democratic politics. Over the past decade, not only the media but also the art world has opted for collusion and self-censorship.

The combination of Islamophobia and the omnipresent threat of violence means that it has become impossible to organise a conference or even a debate on political Islam and freedom of expression on a British or Australian campus. The preoccupation with “safe spaces” on Western campuses, along with the fact that the Gulf States endow chairs in Islamic Studies at Oxford, Princeton and Griffith University in Australia further inhibits discussion. Of 198 member states of the UN, ninety-four have blasphemy laws and the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation regularly pushes for the UN Human Rights Council to recognise the defamation of religion.
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/from-our-archives/illiberal-left-rise-political...
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Re: Incitement
Reply #28 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:57pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Dear Yadda,
your posts are too long -

I doubt anyone reads them.





bobby,
You are probably correct.
This is very troubling to me.

[wink, and smile]       


.......and the wicked delete posts....on the DEFENCE board.




Yes - Brian is wicked - he should repent for the end is nigh.


Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Incitement
Reply #29 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 2:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 12:57pm:
Yadda wrote on Dec 15th, 2024 at 8:49am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Dear Yadda,
your posts are too long -

I doubt anyone reads them.





bobby,
You are probably correct.
This is very troubling to me.

[wink, and smile]       


.......and the wicked delete posts....on the DEFENCE board.




Yes - Brian is wicked - he should repent for the end is nigh.


Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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Re: Incitement
Reply #30 - Dec 15th, 2024 at 4:25pm
 
Brian the bully got his butt kicked by Setanta.😆😂🤣

Totally proved that Brian is nothing more than just a Troll
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