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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46392 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #150 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 10:37am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26^th, 2024 at 3:38pm: We do have something to fear from nuclear—huge costs, 10x what Dutton is spruiking.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #151 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:41am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 9:47am: So you agree they can explode. OK. Yes and so can hydrogen, petrol, gas...
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47198 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #152 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:42am lee wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:41am: Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 9:47am: So you agree they can explode. OK. Yes and so can hydrogen, petrol, gas... They used in a nuke powerplant?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #153 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:45am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 11:42am: They used in a nuke powerplant? You didn't make specific. So tell us how this explosion would not be contained. Please.
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Reply #154 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:48pm

lee wrote on Dec 26^th, 2024 at 12:00pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 26^th, 2024 at 6:45am:

Are you suggesting the government would tax electricity with a carbon tax and use the revenue generated from that tax to subsidise electricity?

Are you suggesting that hasn't been done in the past

Obviously not Lee. I would say it if that was what I was saying.

Have you figured out what you are saying yet? Because no-one else has. For example, should we simply dismiss this as simply more meaningless gibberish from you?

lee wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 5:10pm:

Even if that carbon tax is somehow distributed to the taxpayers generally, it is a subsidy on their costs.

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Reply #155 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:57pm

freediver wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:48pm:

I would say it if that was what I was saying.

Nope.

freediver wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 2:48pm:

For example, should we simply dismiss this as simply more meaningless gibberish from you?

lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:10pm:
Even if that carbon tax is somehow distributed to the taxpayers generally, it is a subsidy on their costs.

So you don't believe a payment to taxpayers to pay for increased cost-of-living is a subsidy on costs?

That Cost-of-living payments are a not subsidy on costs?

How do YOU figure that? Instead of making statements try answering questions, so we can see what you really mean. Wink

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #156 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 3:07pm "The opposition will back the energy bill subsidy but oppose the tax breaks in the Future Made in Australia policy. " https://theconversation.com/politics-with-michelle-grattan-budget-fight-looms-on...
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Reply #157 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 3:15pm

I have no idea what you are talking about Lee. That is why I am asking you to explain what you mean. Asking yet another incredibly stupid question does not clarify anything.

lee wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 5:10pm:

Even if that carbon tax is somehow distributed to the taxpayers generally, it is a subsidy on their costs.

For example, should we simply dismiss this as more meaningless gibberish from you?

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Reply #158 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 3:37pm

freediver wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 3:15pm:

I have no idea what you are talking about Lee. That is why I am asking you to explain what you mean. Asking yet another incredibly stupid question does not clarify anything.

Ah, So you are incredibly stupid because you do not understand. Understood. Out. Wink

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Reply #159 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 3:46pm

I cannot agree with the pool of dribble under your chin Lee. Nor can I disagree with it. It is just a pool of dribble under your chin. Demanding to know whether I agree or disagree before explaining what you mean just deepens the pool.

lee wrote on Dec 24^th, 2024 at 5:10pm:

Even if that carbon tax is somehow distributed to the taxpayers generally, it is a subsidy on their costs.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17669 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #160 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:03pm Poor dear doesn't understand self-evident truths.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #161 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:04pm Reducing income tax is not a subsidy Lee. Do you see it as the government's job to keep the cost of living unaffordable?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74619 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #162 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:27pm lee wrote on Dec 26^th, 2024 at 5:07pm: And Labor's "plan" is even more expensive. Libs spent years telling us that about the NBN ... then introduced a third world system that cost twice as much thats all the libs are good for, scare mongering and screwing things up
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Reply #163 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:34pm

freediver wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:04pm:

Reducing income tax is not a subsidy Lee.

Who said reducing income tax? I said a payment to taxpayers, which is income tax exempt from the government. At least those cost-of-living payments so far have been. And you think that won't continue? Roll Eyes

freediver wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:04pm:

Do you see it as the government's job to keep the cost of living unaffordable?

No, it is the duty of the government to make sure the supply of electricity is as cheap as possible, something that renewables have not done anywhere in the world. Roll Eyes

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Reply #164 - Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:27pm:

Libs spent years telling us that about the NBN ... then introduced a third world system that cost twice as much

And Labor?

"NBN Co's new board conducted a strategic review that contentiously found Labor's plan would have taken three years longer to achieve than previously stated and $29 billion more than forecast.

https://www.afr.com/technology/it-took-11-years-for-government-to-admit-it-was-w...

John Smith wrote on Dec 27^th, 2024 at 4:27pm:

thats all the libs are good for, scare mongering and screwing things up

And Labor don't do that? Grin

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