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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41811	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #90 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:53pm lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:31pm: ah, politicians. Now tell us why renewables are NOT a political fix. Renewables are the only sensible answer to the question of where we get our society's energy from, Lee. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 17571 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #91 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 5:04pm John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:34pm: I've already told you what they said. Yes and you can't link it. BIG fail.
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Reply #92 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 5:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Renewables are the only sensible answer to the question of where we get our society's energy from, Lee.

So how do renewables make more renewables? It hasn't even be demonstrated, let alone a full operational plant. Given renewables only last half the time of coal etc, there must be someway, according to you. Or is there something else you haven't told us? Roll Eyes

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18457 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #93 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 5:45pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:53pm: Renewables are the only sensible answer to the question of where we get our society's energy from If we had Hydro then maybe.
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Reply #94 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:24pm

lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 5:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Renewables are the only sensible answer to the question of where we get our society's energy from, Lee.

So how do renewables make more renewables? It hasn't even be demonstrated, let alone a full operational plant. Given renewables only last half the time of coal etc, there must be someway, according to you. Or is there something else you haven't told us? Roll Eyes

Is nuclear self-regenerating then, Lee? News to me (and I suspect even you). Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #95 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:26pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 5:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 4:53pm:

Renewables are the only sensible answer to the question of where we get our society's energy from

If we had Hydro then maybe.

We have Hydro, Baron. Which is amazing, considering that we are the second driest continent on the planet. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #96 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

We have Hydro, Baron.

That hasn't been designed well. The larger storage is at the top. And if you have a wind or solar drought for days, the hydro won't cut it, even when in gets finished. Something that was supposed to have happened already. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Which is amazing, considering that we are the second driest continent on the planet.

And then of course Tassie. But that is not in the drier climate part of the country. Roll Eyes

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 17571 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #97 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:24pm: Is nuclear self-regenerating then, Lee? No, but it has dispatchable energy, so that things can be made from it. You know things that require constant power, otherwise they clog up. Glass, Metals.
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Reply #98 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:18pm

lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Is nuclear self-regenerating then, Lee?

No, but it has dispatchable energy, so that things can be made from it. You know things that require constant power, otherwise they clog up. Glass, Metals. Roll Eyes

Who says renewables cannot deliver constant power, Lee? You are living in the last century. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #99 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:20pm

lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

We have Hydro, Baron.

That hasn't been designed well. The larger storage is at the top. And if you have a wind or solar drought for days, the hydro won't cut it, even when in gets finished. Something that was supposed to have happened already. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:26pm:

Which is amazing, considering that we are the second driest continent on the planet.

And then of course Tassie. But that is not in the drier climate part of the country. Roll Eyes

Still denying reality, Lee? We have Hydro, in Australia. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #100 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:30pm

Is it smart to build all your nuclear plants around extensive mining sites. Surrounded by a honeycomb of underground tunnels or a series of huge open cut excavations ?

This is literally the Spuds plan. He is adding unacceptable risk to the equation right up front as the basis of the plan, the starting point is flawed.

This is just asking for a future disaster.

Even if you support nuclear power you shouldn't translate that to supporting open stupidity.

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Reply #101 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:18pm:

lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Is nuclear self-regenerating then, Lee?

No, but it has dispatchable energy, so that things can be made from it. You know things that require constant power, otherwise they clog up. Glass, Metals. Roll Eyes

Who says renewables cannot deliver constant power, Lee?

Everybody. Solar and wind are weather dependant - ie inconsistent.

Hydro - problematic on a drought prone continent with Greens in Parliament to block any damming of rivers.

Renewables - controlled by the gods
Fossil, nuclear - controlled by man.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5423 Gender:	Re: Nuclear power to cost almost half ALP renewables Reply #102 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:55pm Reading the comments here shows how the anti nuclear mob are becoming ever more desperate in their attempts to stop the inevitable. Their ignorance is palpable and their ridiculous arguments become more bizarre by the day.
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Reply #103 - Dec 20^th, 2024 at 9:26pm

Frank wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:18pm:

lee wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Is nuclear self-regenerating then, Lee?

No, but it has dispatchable energy, so that things can be made from it. You know things that require constant power, otherwise they clog up. Glass, Metals. Roll Eyes

Who says renewables cannot deliver constant power, Lee?

Everybody. Solar and wind are weather dependant - ie inconsistent.

Hydro - problematic on a drought prone continent with Greens in Parliament to block any damming of rivers.

Renewables - controlled by the gods
Fossil, nuclear - controlled by man.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, renewables are wide and far and controllable by man, Soren. Fossil and nuclear power is controllable but wastes are not. A factor overlooked by the pro-nuclear crowd. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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