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Australia on verge of recession
Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:50am
 
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/interest-rates/mark-bouris-warns-austral...


Mark Bouris warns Australia now on the ‘verge of a full-blown recession’

One of Australia’s top finance experts has issued a grim warning about the economy -
and shared a telling clue about what’s to come.


Mark Bouris
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December 11, 2024

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Mark Bouris



But now, the negative impacts of high interest rates outweigh the benefits.
High interest rates have slowed the economy to the point whereby we’re on the verge of a full-blown recession.
High interest rates are killing household budgets because the cost of servicing mortgages has skyrocketed.
As a result, households are spending less money at the shops.
That means businesses are seeing their sales tank at the same time as their costs rise.
If the situation gets any worse for businesses, bosses will have to cut their costs.
That means they’ll have to let go some of their workers, which will drive unemployment and see people forced onto the dole.
This is a recipe for disaster, and the Reserve Bank can’t let it happen as a result of its one-dimensional anti-inflation crusade.

By the way, the situation out there is worse than the economic figures out from the RBA and the Australian Bureau of Statistics suggest. Because the economy is being propped up by government policies.
First of all, record-high immigration is artificially inflating economic growth.
That’s hiding the full extent of the pain households and businesses are feeling at the moment.
The same goes for public sector spending.
The majority of new jobs being created at the moment are in the public sector.
The taxpayer is paying for all of that.


Meanwhile, the private sector is struggling.
Business investment is down.
New private sector jobs aren’t being created.
But the boom in the public sector is hiding this.
It’s making things look better than they really are in the economic data published by the ABS.
The RBA must take this into account, just as it has to take into account the supply side of the economy.
You may be led to mistakenly believe that the only way to kill inflation is to hike interest rates.
But that’s not true.

One of the core drivers of inflation at the moment is electricity bills.
But high interest rates won’t bring down power prices.
The only thing that will bring down power prices is building more baseload power stations and increasing domestic gas supply.

The same goes for grocery prices.
One of the reasons grocery prices are so high is because the supermarket system in Australia is a duopoly.
Woolworths and Coles control most of the market.
That means they can charge high prices without losing customers to competition offering lower prices.
Again, interest rates won’t do anything to boost competition in the supermarket sector.
That’s a job for the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).

This is why the RBA should hand down a rate cut in February, especially considering the rest of the world is already doing it.
In New Zealand and Canada, rates have already come down by 1.25 per cent.
In the EU, rates have come down by 1.1 per cent.
In the US and Switzerland, they’ve come down by 0.75 per cent.
In the UK and Korea, they’ve come down by 0.5 per cent.
Let’s hope the Reserve Bank follows in February.
Because if they don’t, we’ll trade high inflation for a recession.




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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:52am
 

And Albo thinks he'll win the next election in a few months.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 11:07am
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you're such a Troll, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:52am:
And Albo thinks he'll win the next election in a few months.   Roll Eyes


Albo thought that the Voice to Free Rides was a "necessary" step in the right direction. If only he thought about what he was doing and what would have been achieved had it been a successful vote for the VtFR, he would have understood that the country is sick of being taken advantage of by 1% of the country's population.

You can hear it in Albo's voice that he does not have a clue about what is right for the country. We are nearly at the halfway point of the 2020s. The 1980s ended 35 years ago. It is time that we consider the $40 billion in funding over the last 30-something years to be ended and Australia bought and owned by the Australian taxpayer.
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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 2:46pm
 
Quote:
High interest rates have slowed the economy to the point whereby we’re on the verge of a full-blown recession.


He's got it all backwards. Interest rates are nearly always high before a big recession, if the reserve bank is doing it's job right.
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:14pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 2:46pm:
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High interest rates have slowed the economy to the point whereby we’re on the verge of a full-blown recession.


He's got it all backwards. Interest rates are nearly always high before a big recession, if the reserve bank is doing it's job right.



Well actually - the RBA printed all the money that caused the high inflation.  Embarrassed
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:45pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 1:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:52am:
And Albo thinks he'll win the next election in a few months.   Roll Eyes


Albo thought that the Voice to Free Rides was a "necessary" step in the right direction. If only he thought about what he was doing and what would have been achieved had it been a successful vote for the VtFR, he would have understood that the country is sick of being taken advantage of by 1% of the country's population.

You can hear it in Albo's voice that he does not have a clue about what is right for the country. We are nearly at the halfway point of the 2020s. The 1980s ended 35 years ago. It is time that we consider the $40 billion in funding over the last 30-something years to be ended and Australia bought and owned by the Australian taxpayer.



Yes - his VOICE nonsense cost us about $400 million -  Albo keeps wasting money.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:55pm
 
Albo voice nonsense real cost was a waste of a year in government.

Something labor will deeply regret.

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Reply #8 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:31pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
Albo voice nonsense real cost was a waste of a year in government.

Something labor will deeply regret.




Albo seems to make up policy on the back of a beer coaster.   Embarrassed
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:33pm
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:37pm
 

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you're such a Troll, Brian.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 9:43pm
 
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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:16pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 4:14pm:
freediver wrote on Dec 13th, 2024 at 2:46pm:
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High interest rates have slowed the economy to the point whereby we’re on the verge of a full-blown recession.


He's got it all backwards. Interest rates are nearly always high before a big recession, if the reserve bank is doing it's job right.



Well actually - the RBA printed all the money that caused the high inflation.  Embarrassed


No they did not.

The inflation is caused by the heard mentality of people borrowing to invest seeing only good times ahead. The reserve bank does not cause the high inflation by printing money. It does the opposite. It effectively prints money in a recession. It increases interest rates (the opposite of printing money) when there is high inflation.

This used to be a problem before we had independent reserve banks, but since we have had them, they have always acted to reduce inflation when it is high, and make it easier to borrow to invest when there is a recession. People who say otherwise just cannot get their head around the details, or are too lazy to bother.

Look at the ASX 200 plot. One person might look at that and have a fear of missing out and want to jump on the bandwagon. I look at that and think it is time to sell.
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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:24pm
 
Hi FD,
they order the money to be printed:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-25/did-the-reserve-banks-money-printing-caus...


Did the Reserve Bank's money printing cause inflation? The bank says it's complicated


By business reporter Gareth Hutchens
Topic:Economy



Sunday 25 September 2022



Do you remember how the Reserve Bank printed a huge amount of money in the pandemic?

Have you been wondering if it's responsible for the inflation we're seeing?

The RBA says it's a complicated question to answer, and it's trying to encourage people to think more deeply about money itself.

Here's what that means.

The bond-buying program
In late 2020, the RBA began buying hundreds of billions of dollars worth of government bonds.

It was an emergency stimulus measure.

The program ran from November 2020 to February 2022, and saw the RBA buy $281 billion of federal, state and territory government bonds.

Last week, the RBA published a review of the program which found it broadly helped to support economic activity during the crisis.

However, there were a few passages near the bottom of the review that were very interesting.

They had to do with money printing.

RBA official says outlook for global economy is worrying

RBA deputy governor Michelle Bullock warns of risks in the global economy, but says the RBA's ability to create money helped Australia's economy through the pandemic

See, the RBA's bond buying was an exercise of "money printing"
because the bank was creating money to buy the bonds.


To be more precise, it was waiting for Treasury to sell the government bonds to authorised investors (ie institutional banks), then it would buy the bonds from those banks.

And when it bought the bonds, it would pay for them by simply electronically crediting the accounts that those banks had at the RBA.

For example, let's say the RBA bought $100 million worth of bonds from a particular bank.

It would say to that bank, 'Here you go, we've gone to the computer and added an extra $100 million to your exchange settlement account. Thanks for the bonds."
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Reply #14 - Dec 13th, 2024 at 10:39pm
 
Been in recession for years now and abject poverty staved off by one after another short-term fix at the hands of the economic executioners who are killing the country.

May I say again - a family bringing in $530k pa gets childcare handout - WTF brings in 265k pa?

Childcare is inflationary .... so are all the other handouts that create rising costs.....

Bring in masses of people to cater for construction and aged care... when they settle they create the demand for MORE construction while creating further rises in housing costs all round and thus contributing to inflation - and when they AGE they create the need for MORE aged care.... and so it never ends and more and more will be living in tin shanties and tent cities.

Soon, very soon, we will be living in the same Shythole cities as India ... do not worry!  Soon Hong Strathfield will create need for aircraft to arrive over high rise.....  Wink
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