Have you confused militia with public citizens?

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 16^th, 2024 at 3:57pm:


Heller 2008 effectively removes the first section as being a preface only and not an active part of the amendment. This removes the concept of well regulated and any application concerning the Militia. That is just a fact. In the ruling they go on to add other things into the second amendment which do not exist in the amendment.

From 1791 to 2008 the 2nd had a definition and interpretation which aligned with the words in the amendment. From 2008 to today the 2nd has a definition set in 2008 by the supreme court which is different from the words of the amendment. i.e. the second does not reference self defence.

In 1791 the Militia had a clear function as part of the US armed forces and men were required to have arms in order to serve in the Militia. In this context of that time the first section of the amendment made perfect sense as an active literal part of the amendment. The direct stated literal reason for gun rights to be protected (shal not be infringed).

To paraphrase:

Because the Militia (well regulated) require men to own a gun the right to own a gun shall not be infringed. It says what it means and means what it says which made perfect sense in 1791 that is till it was redefined in 2008.

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Dec 16^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

public
'of or concerning the people as a whole.
ordinary people in general; the community.'
citizen
'a person who legally belongs to a country and has the rights and protection of that country.'
Public citizen : The community of a country. The convicts and / or the politicians.
Civilians 'a person not in the armed services or the police force.'
Armed militia have authority to shoot unlike citizens.
shoot : kill or wound (a person or animal) with a bullet or arrow.
'he was shot in the leg during an armed robbery'.
leg: 'The leg is the entire lower limb of the human body, including the foot, thigh or sometimes even the hip or buttock region'.
Body part
The foot is the part of the body that allows humans to stand and walk.
English
the language of England, widely used in many varieties throughout the world.

Saying the public are the militia is no joke.

John Smith wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:18pm:


You make a good point, actually.

Half way through his term millions of the MAGA nuts are gonna realise they've been screwed and they're gonna want someone to pay.

It's gonna get messy.