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Question: How long does it take to become Indigenous to an area
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From birth there    
  3 (75.0%)
A few days after birth    
  0 (0.0%)
A decade after born there    
  0 (0.0%)
A generation    
  0 (0.0%)
Two-five generations    
  0 (0.0%)
Five-ten generations    
  0 (0.0%)
A few centuries    
  0 (0.0%)
Millennia    
  1 (25.0%)




Total votes: 4
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Reply #120 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm
 
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.


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Reply #121 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Perhaps Phil thinks of it as some kind of zoo where in future generations we will be able to watch wild Aborigines hunting goannas. It's the ultimate apology.


Aborassic Park concept....... morphed into the Two State Solution.... for those who do not wish to be Australian and who play up constantly or wage an Intifada to try to drive Australians out of their homes etc - their own Homeland.  fits in perfectly with their own demands to 'do things their way', have their own Aboriginal state, have their own laws, live the way they want traditionally and all else - with one proviso - it is self-funding as a separate state from Ausrael,  or two maybe, it does not take possession of national icons for their exclusive use and benefit.

That's what upsets the luvvies in their darkest hearts - they jump up and down and demand everything - but when it is all offered on a silver plate but without money - they start the cursing.

Like some head worker advising a kid to chop off the balls and be a girl (etc) - they KNOW in their hearts of darkness that this can never be and they are pursuing insanity.

Note:-  If we offered a million acres to some group of business people as their own private hunting lodge; or we gave a million acres to some group for their own private spiritual retreat to practice their cult as they choose; or gave hundreds of miles of National Park coastline to some rich guy - would Australia accept that?  NO!  And nor should any government seek to force them to bow down to it.... this apartheid and despotism.

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Reply #122 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.
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Reply #123 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)
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Reply #124 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:13am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.

Well, those Aboriginal peoples living in arid and semi-arid regions deliberately set fire to thousands of hectares of land to gather burnt animals, so...
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Reply #125 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:14am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)



Sure. I'm judging myself. I'm judging the road that has brought us here of which i am a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying.

Others, it would seem, who were ultimately cleverer than us.
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Reply #126 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:55am
 
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 4:51pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 11:37am:
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm:
Phil do you think what the government did at Mt Warning is racist or sexist?


Phil? If you would "never" support racial discrimination by the government, does that mean you oppose what the government did with Mt Warning?


So you have defined the Native Title act as racist....The High Court of Australia has already decided you are a dickhead over that issue mate....Just keep bashing Abo's on your race hate site and continue on a hiding to nowhere....You need to change the law to reverse Native Title and no amount of racist bullshit will change anything....No I don't think it is racist to accept traditional owners rights....You are a racist and an idiot who thinks your rights are more important than anyone elses....Do you support discrimination by the British who took away most of the Aboriginals land arsehole....I hope you enjoyed my answer to your bullshit question Freediver!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.firstpeoplesrelations.vic.gov.au/what-is-native-title


What makes you think Mt Warning has anything to do with the native title act?

Do I need to start yet another new thread to get you to explain your latest rant?


Mt Warning is closed to arseholes like you Freediver....Why would I care if you cannot kill native animals and wander around pissed like a dickhead.....All you do is insult and put down Aboriginal people on your race hate site and promote likewise dickheads to do the same....I would be happy to see arseholes like you banned from all National Parks accross Australia....You are a pathetic racist piece of crap Freediver...You really are!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #127 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:57am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:55am:
freediver wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 4:51pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 11:37am:
freediver wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Dec 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm:
Phil do you think what the government did at Mt Warning is racist or sexist?


Phil? If you would "never" support racial discrimination by the government, does that mean you oppose what the government did with Mt Warning?


So you have defined the Native Title act as racist....The High Court of Australia has already decided you are a dickhead over that issue mate....Just keep bashing Abo's on your race hate site and continue on a hiding to nowhere....You need to change the law to reverse Native Title and no amount of racist bullshit will change anything....No I don't think it is racist to accept traditional owners rights....You are a racist and an idiot who thinks your rights are more important than anyone elses....Do you support discrimination by the British who took away most of the Aboriginals land arsehole....I hope you enjoyed my answer to your bullshit question Freediver!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.firstpeoplesrelations.vic.gov.au/what-is-native-title


What makes you think Mt Warning has anything to do with the native title act?

Do I need to start yet another new thread to get you to explain your latest rant?


Mt Warning is closed to arseholes like you Freediver....Why would I care if you cannot kill native animals and wander around pissed like a dickhead.....All you do is insult and put down Aboriginal people on your race hate site and promote likewise dickheads to do the same....I would be happy to see arseholes like you banned from all National Parks accross Australia....You are a pathetic racist piece of crap Freediver...You really are!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Pretty much nails it.
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Reply #128 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:41am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
it does not take possession of national icons for their exclusive use and benefit.

That's what upsets the luvvies in their darkest hearts - they jump up and down and demand everything

Aww... When's the last time you climbed Mt Warning? When's the next time planned?

Are you waiting till they make it safe for motorised trolleys? Make sure its diesel-powered.

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Reply #129 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:41am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)



Sure. I'm judging myself. I'm judging the road that has brought us here of which i am a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying.

Others, it would seem, who were ultimately cleverer than us.

You are not judging yourself, you are preening yourself.

You are JUDGING western and Aboriginal cultures and achievements and rate the latter above the former for achieving nothing.  You valorise stagnation and deplore development.

You are not a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying. That is a ludicrous, grotesque mindset. You are of course not alone with it.
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Reply #130 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:47am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:41am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)



Sure. I'm judging myself. I'm judging the road that has brought us here of which i am a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying.

Others, it would seem, who were ultimately cleverer than us.

You are not judging yourself, you are preening yourself.

You are JUDGING western and Aboriginal cultures and achievements and rate the latter above the former for achieving nothing.  You valorise stagnation and deplore development.

You are not a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying. That is a ludicrous, grotesque mindset. You are of course not alone with it.


No, you simple minded buffoon, i am lamenting the utter failure of western colonialism to consult and liaise with Indigenous people. Our determination to wipe them out by asserting ourselves on top of them and forcing them to our way.

And look how we are paying the piper.


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Reply #131 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:20am
 
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:41am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)



Sure. I'm judging myself. I'm judging the road that has brought us here of which i am a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying.

Others, it would seem, who were ultimately cleverer than us.

You are not judging yourself, you are preening yourself.

You are JUDGING western and Aboriginal cultures and achievements and rate the latter above the former for achieving nothing.  You valorise stagnation and deplore development.

You are not a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying. That is a ludicrous, grotesque mindset. You are of course not alone with it.


No, you simple minded buffoon, i am lamenting the utter failure of western colonialism to consult and liaise with Indigenous people. Our determination to wipe them out by asserting ourselves on top of them and forcing them to our way.

And look how we are paying the piper.




English old ladies still sentimentalize about the “wisdom of the East” and American intellectuals about the “earth consciousness” of the Negro.


And Burney, Langton, Pearson, Mundine, Price, Ridgeway don't look like the products of utter failure.  Not even Thorpe.
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Reply #132 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:23am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:20am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 9:41am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 8:07am:
mothra wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 7:16am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
Some cultures are inferior, some are superior.  They are not all the same.   
Judging is inevitable. Anyone who says she is not judging is lying.


Aboriginal culture is inferior.





Inferior to what? The "culture" that has brought war, famine, pestilence and us ourselves to the very brink of existential destruction?

Inferior to what? Our knowledge of the land we're living on ad all that grows or stands within it?

Inferior in what ways, fruitbat?

See? Were you a curious fellow, you'd think, what is it i can learn here? Instead, you simply reflexively react with massive judgement based on your dramatically inferior criteria.

Who has the most stuff? WHo pillage the earth the most? Who stuck their parents in retirement community?

All these western achievements are nothing to the wisdom of the people who do not treat the earth as a commodity bearing prostitute.


You are JUDGING!!  Cheesy Cheesy

(Told ya)



Sure. I'm judging myself. I'm judging the road that has brought us here of which i am a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying.

Others, it would seem, who were ultimately cleverer than us.

You are not judging yourself, you are preening yourself.

You are JUDGING western and Aboriginal cultures and achievements and rate the latter above the former for achieving nothing.  You valorise stagnation and deplore development.

You are not a beneficiary at the expense of others suffering and dying. That is a ludicrous, grotesque mindset. You are of course not alone with it.


No, you simple minded buffoon, i am lamenting the utter failure of western colonialism to consult and liaise with Indigenous people. Our determination to wipe them out by asserting ourselves on top of them and forcing them to our way.

And look how we are paying the piper.




English old ladies still sentimentalize about the “wisdom of the East” and American intellectuals about the “earth consciousness” of the Negro.


And Burney, Langton, Pearson, Mundine, Price, Ridgeway don't look like the products of utter failure.  Not even Thorpe.



Without surprise you have relegated the overarching point to mere gimmick.

Depressingly so. But not unsurprising. It's the only level you're competent on.
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Reply #133 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:42am
 
The overarching point is that the British brought Aborigines out of their millennia of stagnation in primitive aspic. Staying noble savages for another 10-20 thousand years was never an option for Aborigines.
And it's their great good fortune that it was the British, not, say, the Belgians. And that is why there are Langtons and Burneys, Mundenes, Prices, Pearsons  and Thorpes today. That is why Livid Thorpe can shout obscenities at the monarch and assorted others in Parliament, in parks, on streets while a Senator in the national parliament, representing Aborigines.



That is the overarching point.


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Reply #134 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:52am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 10:42am:
The overarching point is that the British brought Aborigines out of their millennia of stagnation in primitive aspic. Staying noble savages for another 10-20 thousand years was never an option for Aborigines.
And it's their great good fortune that it was the British, not, say, the Belgians. And that is why there are Langtons and Burneys, Mundenes, Prices, Pearsons  and Thorpes today. That is why Livid Thorpe can shout obscenities at the monarch and assorted others in Parliament, in parks, on streets while a Senator in the national parliament, representing Aborigines.



That is the overarching point.




Rinse and repeat. Utterly without consideration.


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